Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The largest payroll not getting paid during a shutdown is military pay. Nobody cares if the bureaucrats starve but military families are stuck in the military, they can't quit and get a different job.


This is the first shutdown that I can think of where the military is not funded.

Crazy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The largest payroll not getting paid during a shutdown is military pay. Nobody cares if the bureaucrats starve but military families are stuck in the military, they can't quit and get a different job.

Doesn’t military get paid during a shutdown?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The largest payroll not getting paid during a shutdown is military pay. Nobody cares if the bureaucrats starve but military families are stuck in the military, they can't quit and get a different job.


This is DCUM, a lot of posters are federal workers, so actually, WE DO CARE. It's the same for all feds. No pay, even if you're an essential worker. No federal employee is supposed to work elsewhere during a shutdown.

Why on earth would you be so dumb as to start pitting the military against other feds? You're an idiot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The largest payroll not getting paid during a shutdown is military pay. Nobody cares if the bureaucrats starve but military families are stuck in the military, they can't quit and get a different job.

Doesn’t military get paid during a shutdown?


With what money?

They'll get paid afterwards, like everyone else. Unless Vought fires them all.
Anonymous
They've been working on appropriations bills over the summer. None of them are finished and ready for a vote, but are any close? Could they pass any appropriations bills soon?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The largest payroll not getting paid during a shutdown is military pay. Nobody cares if the bureaucrats starve but military families are stuck in the military, they can't quit and get a different job.


This is the first shutdown that I can think of where the military is not funded.

Crazy.


2013 we were not funded. Navy Federal paid us on time if you had a direct deposit set up. I think the shut down only lasted through one paycheck.
It's a real problem for the younger enlisted soldiers/Marines/etc. They make very little money and if they have a family and don't live on base they will not last long with a paycheck.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The largest payroll not getting paid during a shutdown is military pay. Nobody cares if the bureaucrats starve but military families are stuck in the military, they can't quit and get a different job.


This is the first shutdown that I can think of where the military is not funded.

Crazy.


2013 we were not funded. Navy Federal paid us on time if you had a direct deposit set up. I think the shut down only lasted through one paycheck.
It's a real problem for the younger enlisted soldiers/Marines/etc. They make very little money and if they have a family and don't live on base they will not last long with a paycheck.


During the 6 week shutdown in 2019, our mortgage holder and the utilities companies gave us extensions. Navy Federal offered interest-free payday loans but we didn't take them up on it, although we could have. We lived paycheck-to-paycheck and 2019 wasn't fun but it was doable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The largest payroll not getting paid during a shutdown is military pay. Nobody cares if the bureaucrats starve but military families are stuck in the military, they can't quit and get a different job.


This is the first shutdown that I can think of where the military is not funded.

Crazy.


2013 we were not funded. Navy Federal paid us on time if you had a direct deposit set up. I think the shut down only lasted through one paycheck.
It's a real problem for the younger enlisted soldiers/Marines/etc. They make very little money and if they have a family and don't live on base they will not last long with a paycheck.


During the 6 week shutdown in 2019, our mortgage holder and the utilities companies gave us extensions. Navy Federal offered interest-free payday loans but we didn't take them up on it, although we could have. We lived paycheck-to-paycheck and 2019 wasn't fun but it was doable.


I think that during that shut down (wasn't it 2018?) the military was funded. I only remember not get paid (or rather only because Navy Federal gave the interest free loans) in 2013.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The largest payroll not getting paid during a shutdown is military pay. Nobody cares if the bureaucrats starve but military families are stuck in the military, they can't quit and get a different job.


This is the first shutdown that I can think of where the military is not funded.

Crazy.


2013 we were not funded. Navy Federal paid us on time if you had a direct deposit set up. I think the shut down only lasted through one paycheck.
It's a real problem for the younger enlisted soldiers/Marines/etc. They make very little money and if they have a family and don't live on base they will not last long with a paycheck.


During the 6 week shutdown in 2019, our mortgage holder and the utilities companies gave us extensions. Navy Federal offered interest-free payday loans but we didn't take them up on it, although we could have. We lived paycheck-to-paycheck and 2019 wasn't fun but it was doable.


I think that during that shut down (wasn't it 2018?) the military was funded. I only remember not get paid (or rather only because Navy Federal gave the interest free loans) in 2013.


Yes, the military was funded for that shutdown.
Anonymous
Did they meet??
Anonymous
Shut it down. No one will miss it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Democrats are in a difficult situation, but there is less incentive to go along than to fight, this time:

If they agree to a Continuing Resolution, without their healthcare demands, the American public suffers from that healthcare decision, and the Democrats are seen as weakened, again.

But if they push the nation to a federal shutdown, the White House can choose to fund only those parts of the government that align with their MAGA ideology anyway, so the healthcare demands will be shot either way. The White House could make good on its threat to lay off thousands of additional workers, but it will lead to political blow back for the GOP.

Which means that unlike for other shutdown threats, and despite the important government work and services that will grind to a halt, the Democrats might find that a painful shutdown is in their best interest politically, but also in the best long-term interest of the nation, to force the White House to come to the negotiating table after public outcry, and not let the GOP have it all their own way.



so the dems want to make the case to extend the covid era aca temporary subsidies that are supposed to expire after the pandemic? There is no pandemic, what exactly is the logic here? Makes no sense, they should make a better case.

As part of COVID-19 relief legislation, the Biden administration temporarily expanded eligibility for ACA health insurance subsidies and increased the financial assistance for people at lower incomes who were already eligible under the ACA.


Did Republicans just extend (and expand on the wealthy end) 'temporary' tax cuts?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The largest payroll not getting paid during a shutdown is military pay. Nobody cares if the bureaucrats starve but military families are stuck in the military, they can't quit and get a different job.

Doesn’t military get paid during a shutdown?


No.
Anonymous
Morning Consult poll | 9/26-9/28 RV

Which party would you blame for a government shutdown?

🟥Republicans in Congress 45%
🟦Democrats in Congress 32%


I guess that 32% are the low information MAGAs who don't understand that the democrats literally have no power to affect this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Did they meet??


Yes. Nothing yet but it sounds like Senate Democrats want to cave.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/29/white-house-shutdown-summit-fails-to-produce-a-deal-00585426
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