Will SEC escape RIFs due to large number of exits?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that’s not correct. 42.5 hours in the office per week, with rare telework in limited circumstances.

They can’t force you to eat lunch “in the office.” Time cards merely ask you to verify 40 hours of work. Period. As long as you eat lunch before 3:00.

Not sure where everyone comes up with all these extraneous supposed rules that are neither written nor enforceable.

If you look at the CBA, it says you can’t use your lunch to shorten your day or not take lunch one day to take a longer one another day.

So, if you are in the office from 9-5, there is no way you can properly record 8 hours of work.

https://www.secunion.org/article-7-work-schedules

Well, first off, the agency has thrown the CBA out the window. They can’t pick and choose which provisions they like or don’t. Second, the CBA isn’t policy anyway (as we’ve seen with telework).

Third, I can work from 630 - 230. Then go to lunch (wherever I want). 8 hours of work done. Timecard is perfectly accurate.

Wrong. See FLSA.

They’re corresponding badge swipes to time cards. You’re required to have an unpaid lunch in the office. Swiping for only 8 hours means you’re defrauding the government of 0.5 hours/day.

You do you, but seems like a sure fire way to be on the future RIF list.

You’re just making stuff up. Nothing says that you can’t take your lunch outside the office. So you’re saying I can’t go to a nearby restaurant for lunch? Isn’t that Bowser’s whole rationale for loving RTO??

Sure you can. But you’re making stuff up if you think you can take “lunch” at 2:30 and pretend you worked 8 hours after being in the office from 6:30am (as though you didn’t eat). I suggest you reach out to OHR or OGC. Guarantee they’ll tell you it’s 8.5 hours in the office inclusive of unpaid lunch (wherever you want to take it), and you can’t use the unpaid lunch to shorten your work day by 30 min.

Nobody’s pretending. I did work from 630-2:30. Why the hell does it matter when or where I eat lunch?? The government got 8 hrs of work from me, and I was paid for 8 hrs.

You are LITERALLY saving your lunch (and breakfast?) to shorten your work day. Good luck to you!

You literally must be pretty low on the totem pole to not get this. If you have worked 8 hours in the office, you are NOT shortening your day. There is NO requirement to be in the office for 8.5 hours. There is a requirement to have 1/2 hour of unpaid lunch, which does NOT equate to being in the office for 8.5 hours. I can't help you connect the dots--critical thinking skills start at a young age and if it's not developed then, it may not develop.

Ffs. Look up your agency’s work schedule policies. many/most agencies require unpaid lunch and forbid saving it to shorten the day.

Ffs. Again, nobody’s “shortening” anything. I’ve worked for 8 hours and took a 1/2 hr lunch (albeit sometimes outside the office, which everyone says is allowed). What’s the issue? If you want something else, incorporate it into the timecard instead of barking on DCUM. Are you really that lazy or inept?

Even coal miners are allowed to eat lunch outside the mine.

The issue is that my agency (and apparently SEC) has an *express written policy* saying you can’t take the 30 minutes at the end of the day. Obviously you can leave the office for lunch. But you cannot get in at 9 and leave at 5 and claim that 5-5:30 is your lunch.

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Anonymous wrote:I would like to know if UNIONIZED employees can have their badge swipes reviewed without notification to them. If anyone knows this for sure, please respond. Yes I will also ask my union steward next month when we go back. But just curious if anyone knows.

Badge swipe reviews are the easiest way to terminate an SEC employee and it's been used in the past. No messy termination effort-swipes evidence is enough IF your supervisor wants you out. No need to prove anything else or exaggeration _ make up performance problems.

So stupid. So they don’t care what you do in the building, as long as you swiped a piece of plastic at certain times. If that’s all they measure, that’s all they’ll get.

Basically, people will be paid over $200k a year plus good benefits to show up at a building and sit in an air conditioned office for 8.5 hours (and write 5 meaningless bullets once a week). Not too shabby, actually, relatively speaking. Millions of people would give their left arms for that arrangement.

No, they wouldn’t. The SEC is filled with serious people who believe in its mission. That is why most people are here. What you are suggesting would kill the agency.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so pathetic and sad. Children mining coal in 1905 literally had more work flexibility than this. Teenagers at McDonald’s seriously are treated with more respect and with greater professionalism.

Haha, nice to see you Russel Vought.

The SEC has plenty of flexibility. Even with rules around scheduling and RTO. I don’t know any employer that doesn’t have ways of monitoring their employees, let’s get real here.

Most professional service firms monitor their employees in a very fair, easy way: WHETHER THE WORK GETS DONE. Not via badge swipes and monitoring where or when you ate lunch.

This. And this was the SEC under Mary Jo White. She understood lawyers and accountants are professionals and she respected we needed to work very long hours at times and other times less.

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Anonymous wrote:I would like to know if UNIONIZED employees can have their badge swipes reviewed without notification to them. If anyone knows this for sure, please respond. Yes I will also ask my union steward next month when we go back. But just curious if anyone knows.

Badge swipe reviews are the easiest way to terminate an SEC employee and it's been used in the past. No messy termination effort-swipes evidence is enough IF your supervisor wants you out. No need to prove anything else or exaggeration _ make up performance problems.

So stupid. So they don’t care what you do in the building, as long as you swiped a piece of plastic at certain times. If that’s all they measure, that’s all they’ll get.

Basically, people will be paid over $200k a year plus good benefits to show up at a building and sit in an air conditioned office for 8.5 hours (and write 5 meaningless bullets once a week). Not too shabby, actually, relatively speaking. Millions of people would give their left arms for that arrangement.

No, they wouldn’t. The SEC is filled with serious people who believe in its mission. That is why most people are here. What you are suggesting would kill the agency.

Serious people who dwell on when and where you eat lunch. Very serious.

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I expect to see a lot of people sitting in the lobby right inside the turnstiles right before their shift ends on their iPhones waiting to badge out. Very efficient and healthy culture.

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Anonymous wrote:I would like to know if UNIONIZED employees can have their badge swipes reviewed without notification to them. If anyone knows this for sure, please respond. Yes I will also ask my union steward next month when we go back. But just curious if anyone knows.

Badge swipe reviews are the easiest way to terminate an SEC employee and it's been used in the past. No messy termination effort-swipes evidence is enough IF your supervisor wants you out. No need to prove anything else or exaggeration _ make up performance problems.

So stupid. So they don’t care what you do in the building, as long as you swiped a piece of plastic at certain times. If that’s all they measure, that’s all they’ll get.

Basically, people will be paid over $200k a year plus good benefits to show up at a building and sit in an air conditioned office for 8.5 hours (and write 5 meaningless bullets once a week). Not too shabby, actually, relatively speaking. Millions of people would give their left arms for that arrangement.

No, they wouldn’t. The SEC is filled with serious people who believe in its mission. That is why most people are here. What you are suggesting would kill the agency.

Serious people who dwell on when and where you eat lunch. Very serious.

Yes serious. Trying to fit professionals into a 9-5 mentality doesn’t work. We aren’t making widgets, casework can require long hours, but it isn’t uniform.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that’s not correct. 42.5 hours in the office per week, with rare telework in limited circumstances.

They can’t force you to eat lunch “in the office.” Time cards merely ask you to verify 40 hours of work. Period. As long as you eat lunch before 3:00.

Not sure where everyone comes up with all these extraneous supposed rules that are neither written nor enforceable.

If you look at the CBA, it says you can’t use your lunch to shorten your day or not take lunch one day to take a longer one another day.

So, if you are in the office from 9-5, there is no way you can properly record 8 hours of work.

https://www.secunion.org/article-7-work-schedules

Well, first off, the agency has thrown the CBA out the window. They can’t pick and choose which provisions they like or don’t. Second, the CBA isn’t policy anyway (as we’ve seen with telework).

Third, I can work from 630 - 230. Then go to lunch (wherever I want). 8 hours of work done. Timecard is perfectly accurate.

Wrong. See FLSA.

They’re corresponding badge swipes to time cards. You’re required to have an unpaid lunch in the office. Swiping for only 8 hours means you’re defrauding the government of 0.5 hours/day.

You do you, but seems like a sure fire way to be on the future RIF list.

You’re just making stuff up. Nothing says that you can’t take your lunch outside the office. So you’re saying I can’t go to a nearby restaurant for lunch? Isn’t that Bowser’s whole rationale for loving RTO??

Sure you can. But you’re making stuff up if you think you can take “lunch” at 2:30 and pretend you worked 8 hours after being in the office from 6:30am (as though you didn’t eat). I suggest you reach out to OHR or OGC. Guarantee they’ll tell you it’s 8.5 hours in the office inclusive of unpaid lunch (wherever you want to take it), and you can’t use the unpaid lunch to shorten your work day by 30 min.

Nobody’s pretending. I did work from 630-2:30. Why the hell does it matter when or where I eat lunch?? The government got 8 hrs of work from me, and I was paid for 8 hrs.

You are LITERALLY saving your lunch (and breakfast?) to shorten your work day. Good luck to you!

You literally must be pretty low on the totem pole to not get this. If you have worked 8 hours in the office, you are NOT shortening your day. There is NO requirement to be in the office for 8.5 hours. There is a requirement to have 1/2 hour of unpaid lunch, which does NOT equate to being in the office for 8.5 hours. I can't help you connect the dots--critical thinking skills start at a young age and if it's not developed then, it may not develop.

Well said. I suspect that several people on this thread are HR or OGC who realized they screwed up on the time cards policy and now realize that they really can’t enforce their silly 1/2 hour lunch thing, and now resort to “well, that’s we MEANT” arguments. Sorry. If that’s what you meant, change the time card attestation. Otherwise, be quiet — you come off as desperate.

Until you actually look up your agency’s written policy on this and report back, your viewpoint is meaningless. My agency (not SEC) is very clear that the 30 minute unpaid lunch cannot be taken at the end or beginning of the day, which in effect means you have to be in the office 8.5 hrs total. While it may not be time card fraud to violate the policy, it’s definitely a different violation of agency policy.

Sec policy says nothing about beginning or end. It only says before 3.

It clearly says you have to have an 8.5 hours schedule and it says you can’t use lunch to shorten the day. It’s crystal clear no matter how many times you insist it isn’t, while refusing to provide any other explanation of what the ‘you can’t shorten the day’ provision means.

Your response that you aren’t shortening anything because you are still working 8 hours doesn’t work because you can’t have an 8 hour schedule, ie 9-5, 8-4, whatever would not approved as a schedule. The schedule you in put has to have 8.5 hours and, with that requirement, you would be shortening your day leaving after 8.

But you know this and are just being obtuse.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that’s not correct. 42.5 hours in the office per week, with rare telework in limited circumstances.

They can’t force you to eat lunch “in the office.” Time cards merely ask you to verify 40 hours of work. Period. As long as you eat lunch before 3:00.

Not sure where everyone comes up with all these extraneous supposed rules that are neither written nor enforceable.

If you look at the CBA, it says you can’t use your lunch to shorten your day or not take lunch one day to take a longer one another day.

So, if you are in the office from 9-5, there is no way you can properly record 8 hours of work.

https://www.secunion.org/article-7-work-schedules

Well, first off, the agency has thrown the CBA out the window. They can’t pick and choose which provisions they like or don’t. Second, the CBA isn’t policy anyway (as we’ve seen with telework).

Third, I can work from 630 - 230. Then go to lunch (wherever I want). 8 hours of work done. Timecard is perfectly accurate.

Wrong. See FLSA.

They’re corresponding badge swipes to time cards. You’re required to have an unpaid lunch in the office. Swiping for only 8 hours means you’re defrauding the government of 0.5 hours/day.

You do you, but seems like a sure fire way to be on the future RIF list.

You’re just making stuff up. Nothing says that you can’t take your lunch outside the office. So you’re saying I can’t go to a nearby restaurant for lunch? Isn’t that Bowser’s whole rationale for loving RTO??

Sure you can. But you’re making stuff up if you think you can take “lunch” at 2:30 and pretend you worked 8 hours after being in the office from 6:30am (as though you didn’t eat). I suggest you reach out to OHR or OGC. Guarantee they’ll tell you it’s 8.5 hours in the office inclusive of unpaid lunch (wherever you want to take it), and you can’t use the unpaid lunch to shorten your work day by 30 min.

Nobody’s pretending. I did work from 630-2:30. Why the hell does it matter when or where I eat lunch?? The government got 8 hrs of work from me, and I was paid for 8 hrs.

You are LITERALLY saving your lunch (and breakfast?) to shorten your work day. Good luck to you!

You literally must be pretty low on the totem pole to not get this. If you have worked 8 hours in the office, you are NOT shortening your day. There is NO requirement to be in the office for 8.5 hours. There is a requirement to have 1/2 hour of unpaid lunch, which does NOT equate to being in the office for 8.5 hours. I can't help you connect the dots--critical thinking skills start at a young age and if it's not developed then, it may not develop.

Well said. I suspect that several people on this thread are HR or OGC who realized they screwed up on the time cards policy and now realize that they really can’t enforce their silly 1/2 hour lunch thing, and now resort to “well, that’s we MEANT” arguments. Sorry. If that’s what you meant, change the time card attestation. Otherwise, be quiet — you come off as desperate.

Until you actually look up your agency’s written policy on this and report back, your viewpoint is meaningless. My agency (not SEC) is very clear that the 30 minute unpaid lunch cannot be taken at the end or beginning of the day, which in effect means you have to be in the office 8.5 hrs total. While it may not be time card fraud to violate the policy, it’s definitely a different violation of agency policy.

Sec policy says nothing about beginning or end. It only says before 3.

It clearly says you have to have an 8.5 hours schedule and it says you can’t use lunch to shorten the day. It’s crystal clear no matter how many times you insist it isn’t, while refusing to provide any other explanation of what the ‘you can’t shorten the day’ provision means.

Your response that you aren’t shortening anything because you are still working 8 hours doesn’t work because you can’t have an 8 hour schedule, ie 9-5, 8-4, whatever would not approved as a schedule. The schedule you in put has to have 8.5 hours and, with that requirement, you would be shortening your day leaving after 8.

But you know this and are just being obtuse.

Odd, then, that somebody forgot to incorporate this supposed policy into the timecard.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that’s not correct. 42.5 hours in the office per week, with rare telework in limited circumstances.

They can’t force you to eat lunch “in the office.” Time cards merely ask you to verify 40 hours of work. Period. As long as you eat lunch before 3:00.

Not sure where everyone comes up with all these extraneous supposed rules that are neither written nor enforceable.

If you look at the CBA, it says you can’t use your lunch to shorten your day or not take lunch one day to take a longer one another day.

So, if you are in the office from 9-5, there is no way you can properly record 8 hours of work.

https://www.secunion.org/article-7-work-schedules

Well, first off, the agency has thrown the CBA out the window. They can’t pick and choose which provisions they like or don’t. Second, the CBA isn’t policy anyway (as we’ve seen with telework).

Third, I can work from 630 - 230. Then go to lunch (wherever I want). 8 hours of work done. Timecard is perfectly accurate.

Wrong. See FLSA.

They’re corresponding badge swipes to time cards. You’re required to have an unpaid lunch in the office. Swiping for only 8 hours means you’re defrauding the government of 0.5 hours/day.

You do you, but seems like a sure fire way to be on the future RIF list.

You’re just making stuff up. Nothing says that you can’t take your lunch outside the office. So you’re saying I can’t go to a nearby restaurant for lunch? Isn’t that Bowser’s whole rationale for loving RTO??

Sure you can. But you’re making stuff up if you think you can take “lunch” at 2:30 and pretend you worked 8 hours after being in the office from 6:30am (as though you didn’t eat). I suggest you reach out to OHR or OGC. Guarantee they’ll tell you it’s 8.5 hours in the office inclusive of unpaid lunch (wherever you want to take it), and you can’t use the unpaid lunch to shorten your work day by 30 min.

Nobody’s pretending. I did work from 630-2:30. Why the hell does it matter when or where I eat lunch?? The government got 8 hrs of work from me, and I was paid for 8 hrs.

You are LITERALLY saving your lunch (and breakfast?) to shorten your work day. Good luck to you!

You literally must be pretty low on the totem pole to not get this. If you have worked 8 hours in the office, you are NOT shortening your day. There is NO requirement to be in the office for 8.5 hours. There is a requirement to have 1/2 hour of unpaid lunch, which does NOT equate to being in the office for 8.5 hours. I can't help you connect the dots--critical thinking skills start at a young age and if it's not developed then, it may not develop.

Well said. I suspect that several people on this thread are HR or OGC who realized they screwed up on the time cards policy and now realize that they really can’t enforce their silly 1/2 hour lunch thing, and now resort to “well, that’s we MEANT” arguments. Sorry. If that’s what you meant, change the time card attestation. Otherwise, be quiet — you come off as desperate.

Until you actually look up your agency’s written policy on this and report back, your viewpoint is meaningless. My agency (not SEC) is very clear that the 30 minute unpaid lunch cannot be taken at the end or beginning of the day, which in effect means you have to be in the office 8.5 hrs total. While it may not be time card fraud to violate the policy, it’s definitely a different violation of agency policy.

Sec policy says nothing about beginning or end. It only says before 3.

It clearly says you have to have an 8.5 hours schedule and it says you can’t use lunch to shorten the day. It’s crystal clear no matter how many times you insist it isn’t, while refusing to provide any other explanation of what the ‘you can’t shorten the day’ provision means.

Your response that you aren’t shortening anything because you are still working 8 hours doesn’t work because you can’t have an 8 hour schedule, ie 9-5, 8-4, whatever would not approved as a schedule. The schedule you in put has to have 8.5 hours and, with that requirement, you would be shortening your day leaving after 8.

But you know this and are just being obtuse.

Odd, then, that somebody forgot to incorporate this supposed policy into the timecard.

DP. if you’re accomplished enough to be an SEC lawyer, economist or accountant, I’d expect you understand the concept that there can be multiple different policies. The time card attenuation is for the time you actually worked. The work schedule policy governs the unpaid lunch. Just because you don’t record the unpaid lunch on your time card does not mean there is no unpaid lunch policy.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, that’s not correct. 42.5 hours in the office per week, with rare telework in limited circumstances.

They can’t force you to eat lunch “in the office.” Time cards merely ask you to verify 40 hours of work. Period. As long as you eat lunch before 3:00.

Not sure where everyone comes up with all these extraneous supposed rules that are neither written nor enforceable.

If you look at the CBA, it says you can’t use your lunch to shorten your day or not take lunch one day to take a longer one another day.

So, if you are in the office from 9-5, there is no way you can properly record 8 hours of work.

https://www.secunion.org/article-7-work-schedules

Well, first off, the agency has thrown the CBA out the window. They can’t pick and choose which provisions they like or don’t. Second, the CBA isn’t policy anyway (as we’ve seen with telework).

Third, I can work from 630 - 230. Then go to lunch (wherever I want). 8 hours of work done. Timecard is perfectly accurate.

Wrong. See FLSA.

They’re corresponding badge swipes to time cards. You’re required to have an unpaid lunch in the office. Swiping for only 8 hours means you’re defrauding the government of 0.5 hours/day.

You do you, but seems like a sure fire way to be on the future RIF list.

You’re just making stuff up. Nothing says that you can’t take your lunch outside the office. So you’re saying I can’t go to a nearby restaurant for lunch? Isn’t that Bowser’s whole rationale for loving RTO??

Sure you can. But you’re making stuff up if you think you can take “lunch” at 2:30 and pretend you worked 8 hours after being in the office from 6:30am (as though you didn’t eat). I suggest you reach out to OHR or OGC. Guarantee they’ll tell you it’s 8.5 hours in the office inclusive of unpaid lunch (wherever you want to take it), and you can’t use the unpaid lunch to shorten your work day by 30 min.

Nobody’s pretending. I did work from 630-2:30. Why the hell does it matter when or where I eat lunch?? The government got 8 hrs of work from me, and I was paid for 8 hrs.

You are LITERALLY saving your lunch (and breakfast?) to shorten your work day. Good luck to you!

You literally must be pretty low on the totem pole to not get this. If you have worked 8 hours in the office, you are NOT shortening your day. There is NO requirement to be in the office for 8.5 hours. There is a requirement to have 1/2 hour of unpaid lunch, which does NOT equate to being in the office for 8.5 hours. I can't help you connect the dots--critical thinking skills start at a young age and if it's not developed then, it may not develop.

Well said. I suspect that several people on this thread are HR or OGC who realized they screwed up on the time cards policy and now realize that they really can’t enforce their silly 1/2 hour lunch thing, and now resort to “well, that’s we MEANT” arguments. Sorry. If that’s what you meant, change the time card attestation. Otherwise, be quiet — you come off as desperate.

Until you actually look up your agency’s written policy on this and report back, your viewpoint is meaningless. My agency (not SEC) is very clear that the 30 minute unpaid lunch cannot be taken at the end or beginning of the day, which in effect means you have to be in the office 8.5 hrs total. While it may not be time card fraud to violate the policy, it’s definitely a different violation of agency policy.

Sec policy says nothing about beginning or end. It only says before 3.

NP and my bet is that when they changed core hours to 2 from 3 in the prior cba they forgot to update the lunch provision.

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It clearly says you have to have an 8.5 hours schedule and it says you can’t use lunch to shorten the day. It’s crystal clear no matter how many times you insist it isn’t, while refusing to provide any other explanation of what the ‘you can’t shorten the day’ provision means.

Your response that you aren’t shortening anything because you are still working 8 hours doesn’t work because you can’t have an 8 hour schedule, ie 9-5, 8-4, whatever would not approved as a schedule. The schedule you in put has to have 8.5 hours and, with that requirement, you would be shortening your day leaving after 8.

But you know this and are just being obtuse.

Odd, then, that somebody forgot to incorporate this supposed policy into the timecard.

turns out that the timecard vendor is different than the work schedule vendor, and while you attest to the former every other week, you attest to the latter every time you change your formal schedule agreement. go touch grass.

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Where does it say that one must work a certain amount of time before and/or after one’s lunch period? Or that lunch must be taken before the end of one’s work?

Such a simple thing to say — if that’s what they intended. Yet they didn’t say that. I wonder why. Perhaps it’s bc that’s NOT what they intended? Maybe?

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it say that one must work a certain amount of time before and/or after one’s lunch period? Or that lunch must be taken before the end of one’s work?

Such a simple thing to say — if that’s what they intended. Yet they didn’t say that. I wonder why. Perhaps it’s bc that’s NOT what they intended? Maybe?

My agency says it quite clearly in the works schedules policy and the CBA.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is so pathetic and sad. Children mining coal in 1905 literally had more work flexibility than this. Teenagers at McDonald’s seriously are treated with more respect and with greater professionalism.

Haha, nice to see you Russel Vought.

The SEC has plenty of flexibility. Even with rules around scheduling and RTO. I don’t know any employer that doesn’t have ways of monitoring their employees, let’s get real here.

Most professional service firms monitor their employees in a very fair, easy way: WHETHER THE WORK GETS DONE. Not via badge swipes and monitoring where or when you ate lunch.

This. And this was the SEC under Mary Jo White. She understood lawyers and accountants are professionals and she respected we needed to work very long hours at times and other times less.

Hahahahaha! No it most certainly wasn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:Where does it say that one must work a certain amount of time before and/or after one’s lunch period? Or that lunch must be taken before the end of one’s work?

Such a simple thing to say — if that’s what they intended. Yet they didn’t say that. I wonder why. Perhaps it’s bc that’s NOT what they intended? Maybe?

Honestly, just stop. Go find the information yourself, it is readily available.