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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America.  Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.

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Murder is much less likely to affect the average citizen as it is often gang relayed, domestic violence, or criminals killing each other.  The large number of petty crimes from car jacking, drug use, shoplifting, street violence, homeless rantings,  and lack of sanitary environment will make a place inhospitable

I am highly unlikely to be murdered in San Francisco but I am likely to be accosted by drugged out beggars.

I am as liberal as they come but your  argument is silly. [/quote]

Amazing that you think being accosted by beggars is a larger problem than murders. Now that is the NIMBY thinking, rampant among liberals and conservatives, that is a real plague on our society.[/quote]

This is always a stupid argument, as if the only thing that you need to worry about is being murdered.

No, when people suffer death by a thousand cuts they leave. Constantly having to dodge feces and needles, being harassed everyday for money by junkies/beggars, and having your car constantly broken into gets tiresome. People get fed up and leave and a city's tax base craters when people are sick of the erosion in quality of life. [/quote]

What's old is new again.

People who never experienced the NYC or DC of the 60's-80s would never get why people left the cities and didn't move back in until things were cleaned up and safer in the 90's and 2000's.

As I get older I see things repeat.[/quote]

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