Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

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Anonymous wrote:So isn't it now a possibility that his parents killed him or gave him the means to kill himself and then left him in the park? And they've just been waiting the whole time for LE to find him? It would fit with their psychotic passive aggressiveness.

Give it a rest. They just learned their son is dead. Did you watch the video? The father crying when he got the news? They didn’t know and they weren’t involved and they are grieving. They have been vilified based on zero evidence that they had any knowledge of what happened to Gabby or knowledge or role in Brain’s disappearance. It’s sick what people have been doing to these individuals without anything to substantiate the wild accusations.

While I agree that you have included many valid points, I still think that the parents should have spoken up in the beginning.

When Gabby’s family was calling the Laundries, inquiring where she was or what they actually knew, etc., I just find it cruel that they never responded back.
While hiring a lawyer + deciding against speaking publicly is their fundamental right - morally they should have responded to Gabby’s parents and let them know what they knew.

By doing this, they only made themselves look bad.

Of course it made them look bad, but it was the smart thing to do. It’s 100% what I would have advised my clients to do as well. we don’t know what Brian told them. He may have told them absolutely nothing. Remember, her body wasn’t even found until after Brian left. They may have had zero clue that was something wrong. Brian left only two days after she was announced missing- that could have been a complete shock to the parents who could have led to him feeing a need to flee. He could have played her disappearance off as something he has no idea about. We simply don’t know what they knew or thought.

They absolutely knew something was wrong. Their son drive out west with his live-in fiancé and drove home without her. Something was definitely wrong. Even if he said they broke up, they didn’t want to know where she was? They didn’t think anything of all the calls and texts from her parents asking if they had heard anything? They didn’t think to respond “well our kid is here, no clue where your kid is”??

Exactly. That’s what is so off about their behavior. Then the seemingly indifference about their missing son for weeks.

How would we know whether or not they are indifferent, or that they didn’t want to know where she was, or that he didn’t make up a story explaining everything away?

They didn't do a single press conference.

They didn't answer a single phone call from Gabby Petito's family.

They didn't post any messages anywhere on social media.

They didn't release a letter to a local or national news source.

Hell, they could have printed out a memo and tacked it to their garage door.

Instead they were silent. That's indifference.

Sorry this made me roll my eyes. When you consider that social media is the entire reason Gabby and Brian ventured out on their trip, it seems like more of a reason to avoid social media as much as possible. One could argue that if not for instagram or whatever, this tragedy wouldn’t have occurred. Why would his parents want to get mixed up in all that? They had a spokesperson anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Unpopular theory - I think they have been 100% cooperating with the FBI since Brian went missing. Doesn’t excuse the silence starting Sept 1 but still. Do we know the exact date they lawyered up?

This has bothered me for some time — we have absolutely no idea what they have and have not told the FBI. The speculation about whether they have cooperated (or not) is purely that — speculation.

I mean they raised an abuser who turned out to be a murderer and harbored a fugitive. And also didn't mention he was missing for days after he left? Give me a break. They should be held responsible for Gabby's death by the public court for the rest of their lives, and they will be.

These are all big empty words. Want to see how easy this game is? There are two police reports that Gabby abused - punching in the face - Brian and that Brian never touched her during the abuse. One is a written signed statement that is public record and the other is a verbal recording on the second police cam. Brian was covered in injuries to his face, head, neck, arm, and hands when the cops pulled them over that day. Gabby had one scratch. Brian was known to be all about Zen, yoga, and reading. Gabby was known for anxiety problems, substance abuse, and instability.

Or let’s take a different cut and assume Gabby was the abused victim and Brian was the awful abusive monster depicted in the media. Guess what? Any person who readily stays with an abuser as Brian has been described by mass media to be had an EXTREMELY effed up childhood. They don’t understand love, they have no self-worth most likely because it was destroyed by parents, and they have no safety. They are never just a victim of their romantic abuser, they are first and foremost a victim of their upbringing. So, based on this perspective, the petito parents are almost surely abusive and/or completely neglectful people who did t properly raise their daughter.

Pretty crappy, huh?

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the hecklers outside the home have the decency to back off now. Hoping maybe there will be a police presence, at least over night to protect their privacy.

+100

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think this is like a modern day Romeo and Juliet breakup gone tragically wrong?

She didn’t strangle herself.

+1 wt heck, pp.

No, I don’t view this as a tragic love story. Not. At. All.

I do, in a sense. I believe that they did love each other, but everything went horribly wrong.

I think she was the abuser and he snapped. Battered partner syndrome.

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Anonymous wrote:Unpopular theory - I think they have been 100% cooperating with the FBI since Brian went missing. Doesn’t excuse the silence starting Sept 1 but still. Do we know the exact date they lawyered up?

This has bothered me for some time — we have absolutely no idea what they have and have not told the FBI. The speculation about whether they have cooperated (or not) is purely that — speculation.

I mean they raised an abuser who turned out to be a murderer and harbored a fugitive. And also didn't mention he was missing for days after he left? Give me a break. They should be held responsible for Gabby's death by the public court for the rest of their lives, and they will be.

You are speculating about all of this. It's frightening how fast the "Court of Public Opinion" makes judgments before they have heard any of the facts. The fact that the Laundries haven't spoken publicly is taken as evidence that every wild accusation against them is true. It may be that all of this is true. It may not be. What is so bad about waiting to hear from the Police? If the Police were to make a statement that the Laundrie's have been cooperating all along and were instrumental in finding Brian's remains (the latter appears to be the case), will you feel differently?

You better hope none of your children ever do anything wrong, since you seem to believe that the parents are always responsible for the sins of their children.

All of this. It’s disgusting what the masses have done w/r/t these parents. And as to cooperation, we already know from police statements and their lawyer statements dating back to SEPTEMBER 17, that they kept insisted Brian would have been in this area and they should search this area. They were adamant and they were right...not covering for driving him to Mexico or hiding him in their garden or whatever other million absolutely deranged stories people made up.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever story the parents told at the beginning, they can't back down from now or they'd put themselves in the frame for obstruction of justice and making false statements. Unless they are given immunity in exchange for revealing whatever Brian said to them in order to give Gabby's parents information, we'll probably never know.

Ultimately, none of it probably mattered. She was dead before anyone but Brian knew she was missing. And I would bet the autopsy will show that Brian killed himself pretty much immediately after he arrived in FL and disappeared again and there was no real chance to catch him alive. Hopefully the FBI doesn't go around shooting a bunch of alligators to try to find the one that probably ate a chunk of his remains. What would it help?

Immunity from what?!?!!! It’s not a crime to not report a previously concluded crime that you learn about after the fact! And they LITERALLY have been telling cops that they think Brian would be in this exact area since the day they reported him missing. There is literally not a single thing they can be charged with

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Anonymous wrote:How weird that the same day the parents decided to go to the reserve is the same day that human remains along with Brian’s belongings are recovered. There are a lot of things that the public is not being told at this time.
I am guessing (what else can I do?) that the parents led the FBI to the human remains along with the backpack and notebook. They likely were contacted by Brian shortly prior to him killing himself of what he was going to do.
They could have been in denial this entire time, hoping that Brian had changed his mind and instead was living on the lam. However after so much time has passed without a sign of their son, they likely contacted authorities to be there in the event that Brian’s remains are where he told them he would be.

Nope nope nope. Parents had been telling the cops they think Brian would likely be in that area since day one - September 17. Also, the police found the back backpack and remains before the Laundrie’s found that white bag. That’s what caused the two cops who were accompanying the laundries to leave their side. They got called to the scene, which was in a different area that the Laundries never went to

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Anonymous wrote:Unpopular theory - I think they have been 100% cooperating with the FBI since Brian went missing. Doesn’t excuse the silence starting Sept 1 but still. Do we know the exact date they lawyered up?

This has bothered me for some time — we have absolutely no idea what they have and have not told the FBI. The speculation about whether they have cooperated (or not) is purely that — speculation.

I mean they raised an abuser who turned out to be a murderer and harbored a fugitive. And also didn't mention he was missing for days after he left? Give me a break. They should be held responsible for Gabby's death by the public court for the rest of their lives, and they will be.

You are speculating about all of this. It's frightening how fast the "Court of Public Opinion" makes judgments before they have heard any of the facts. The fact that the Laundries haven't spoken publicly is taken as evidence that every wild accusation against them is true. It may be that all of this is true. It may not be. What is so bad about waiting to hear from the Police? If the Police were to make a statement that the Laundrie's have been cooperating all along and were instrumental in finding Brian's remains (the latter appears to be the case), will you feel differently?

You better hope none of your children ever do anything wrong, since you seem to believe that the parents are always responsible for the sins of their children.

The "Police" in North Port haven't seemed like the brightest bulbs here...and yes, I definitely think they were instrumental in finding his remains. I think the theory floating around that they knew where he was hiding in the preserve and were hoping he was alive could be accurate. If they went to this spot themselves when it reopened to the public, found him, and then decided to 'lead' authorities to him to try and get the public/LE off their backs, it frankly makes more sense than deliberately stonewalling access to their child when his fiance who lived with them for a year plus was missing (and he came home in her van).

Why else wouldn't you report him missing right away? Other than to give him a head start? And how do you mix up the day he left?

Ugh the media has made a mess of this. Gabby and Brian were not living with Brian’s parents. They lived with them for like a month a while ago but had had their own apartment (paid for by Brian’s parents) for over a year before leaving on the trip. The parents sold the condo in July while they were gone. The storage unit Brian came back to empty had all of their stuff from that condo. They were sharing finances. The car was in her name, but Brian had been paying for it and was the one who worked on it all summer to reconfigure it into the liveable van.

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Anonymous wrote:So isn't it now a possibility that his parents killed him or gave him the means to kill himself and then left him in the park? And they've just been waiting the whole time for LE to find him? It would fit with their psychotic passive aggressiveness.

Give it a rest. They just learned their son is dead. Did you watch the video? The father crying when he got the news? They didn’t know and they weren’t involved and they are grieving. They have been vilified based on zero evidence that they had any knowledge of what happened to Gabby or knowledge or role in Brain’s disappearance. It’s sick what people have been doing to these individuals without anything to substantiate the wild accusations.

While I agree that you have included many valid points, I still think that the parents should have spoken up in the beginning.

When Gabby’s family was calling the Laundries, inquiring where she was or what they actually knew, etc., I just find it cruel that they never responded back.
While hiring a lawyer + deciding against speaking publicly is their fundamental right - morally they should have responded to Gabby’s parents and let them know what they knew.

By doing this, they only made themselves look bad.

Of course it made them look bad, but it was the smart thing to do. It’s 100% what I would have advised my clients to do as well. we don’t know what Brian told them. He may have told them absolutely nothing. Remember, her body wasn’t even found until after Brian left. They may have had zero clue that was something wrong. Brian left only two days after she was announced missing- that could have been a complete shock to the parents who could have led to him feeing a need to flee. He could have played her disappearance off as something he has no idea about. We simply don’t know what they knew or thought.

They absolutely knew something was wrong. Their son drive out west with his live-in fiancé and drove home without her. Something was definitely wrong. Even if he said they broke up, they didn’t want to know where she was? They didn’t think anything of all the calls and texts from her parents asking if they had heard anything? They didn’t think to respond “well our kid is here, no clue where your kid is”??

Exactly. That’s what is so off about their behavior. Then the seemingly indifference about their missing son for weeks.

How would we know whether or not they are indifferent, or that they didn’t want to know where she was, or that he didn’t make up a story explaining everything away?

They didn't do a single press conference.

They didn't answer a single phone call from Gabby Petito's family.

They didn't post any messages anywhere on social media.

They didn't release a letter to a local or national news source.

Hell, they could have printed out a memo and tacked it to their garage door.

Instead they were silent. That's indifference.

They were excellent and smart clients. We run the narrative day in and day out that POC should never say a word and should immediately ask for an attorney if arrested or questioned be police; however, when a white couple exercises their constitutional rights and does exactly as they should, they are vilified? Wtf

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Anonymous wrote:So Mom and Dad Laundrie decide to take a stroll this morning and Dad just happens to go off the trail right at the precise spot where the white dry bag was found. Here's the video

Nope. Watch closer. Two clips joined together. The white bag wasn’t found over there. He joined back up with Roberta then they went searching somewhere else together and found the bag quite a while later, relatively speaking. Chris was looking for the cops that had been around them but they were no where to be found - which was because they were called to the different scene where other cops found the backpack and remains. The Fox reporter was tailing them and saw the bag and item they found. They didn’t want to leave it knowing the reporter would jump on it, so they took it and looked for the cops. Gave it to them the first second they found them.

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Anonymous wrote:So isn't it now a possibility that his parents killed him or gave him the means to kill himself and then left him in the park? And they've just been waiting the whole time for LE to find him? It would fit with their psychotic passive aggressiveness.

Give it a rest. They just learned their son is dead. Did you watch the video? The father crying when he got the news? They didn’t know and they weren’t involved and they are grieving. They have been vilified based on zero evidence that they had any knowledge of what happened to Gabby or knowledge or role in Brain’s disappearance. It’s sick what people have been doing to these individuals without anything to substantiate the wild accusations.

While I agree that you have included many valid points, I still think that the parents should have spoken up in the beginning.

When Gabby’s family was calling the Laundries, inquiring where she was or what they actually knew, etc., I just find it cruel that they never responded back.
While hiring a lawyer + deciding against speaking publicly is their fundamental right - morally they should have responded to Gabby’s parents and let them know what they knew.

By doing this, they only made themselves look bad.

Of course it made them look bad, but it was the smart thing to do. It’s 100% what I would have advised my clients to do as well. we don’t know what Brian told them. He may have told them absolutely nothing. Remember, her body wasn’t even found until after Brian left. They may have had zero clue that was something wrong. Brian left only two days after she was announced missing- that could have been a complete shock to the parents who could have led to him feeing a need to flee. He could have played her disappearance off as something he has no idea about. We simply don’t know what they knew or thought.

They absolutely knew something was wrong. Their son drive out west with his live-in fiancé and drove home without her. Something was definitely wrong. Even if he said they broke up, they didn’t want to know where she was? They didn’t think anything of all the calls and texts from her parents asking if they had heard anything? They didn’t think to respond “well our kid is here, no clue where your kid is”??

Exactly. That’s what is so off about their behavior. Then the seemingly indifference about their missing son for weeks.

How would we know whether or not they are indifferent, or that they didn’t want to know where she was, or that he didn’t make up a story explaining everything away?

They didn't do a single press conference.

They didn't answer a single phone call from Gabby Petito's family.

They didn't post any messages anywhere on social media.

They didn't release a letter to a local or national news source.

Hell, they could have printed out a memo and tacked it to their garage door.

Instead they were silent. That's indifference.

They were excellent and smart clients. We run the narrative day in and day out that POC should never say a word and should immediately ask for an attorney if arrested or questioned be police; however, when a white couple exercises their constitutional rights and does exactly as they should, they are vilified? Wtf

No - the PP knows what indifference is! She sure does!!

Yet another case where I hope PP is in a similar situation as the Laundries (not necessarily involving murder but you know what I mean) - I’d love to see how she reacts. Because, you know, she’s amazing.

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Anonymous wrote:So Mom and Dad Laundrie decide to take a stroll this morning and Dad just happens to go off the trail right at the precise spot where the white dry bag was found. Here's the video

Definitely too much of a coincidence here. I mean the first day the parents arrive at the reserve, Brian’s possessions and possibly remains are found the same morning?????
I smell a rat.
The parents likely knew where he was and were hoping that he was living in the reserve. However after so many weeks of him missing they probably thought the worst and decided to personally trek out to the reserve so they could participate in the search and hopefully find him alive.
It appears he was indeed where he claimed he would be, but sadly for his parents he likely killed himself there. They probably knew that if he were alive, then the FBI would have found him by now. After five weeks had passed they came to the conclusion that he likely was deceased and this morning went out to the Carlton Reserve to prove their suspicions correct.

Y’all are awful. They had been directing the cops to this area since September 17. It was underwater though. Chris was literally not allowed to go to the area and help search because up until yesterday it was shut down to the public. They were told they couldn’t join. Cops let Chris join a couple times and both times he brought them to this same exact area- just didn’t find them those times. It’s not a coincidence. It’s literally just the first time he was able to freely go search on his own.

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People need to stop being so hateful towards these parents. Talk about mob mentality. Take a step back and stop reading into things. Who are you to decide how they should act in their pain and grief? I know that my instinct is NOT to post to social media, but to withdraw. Things like working in the garden doesn't mean they're indifferent. You go on moving through the motions, just in a daze, like wood. I know.

Maybe his parents are awful, maybe they're not. But if they're not, stirring up a mob against them is itself vile.

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Anonymous wrote:Partial human remains found

I am so relieved a corpse has been found.

Weird sentence.

Why? I’m glad too, assuming it’s Brian. No more $$ wasted on the manhunt, trial, or a lifetime of incarceration.

Very true.
But unfortunately for the Petito family, they will not get any answers regarding the death of Gabby.
Which I am sure they were hoping for.

This is so sad for them. 😢

what makes you say this, it's not like him being alive would guarantee answers anyway

Yes, I know.
However Brian was the last person to see Gabby alive and him and ONLY HIM could provide them the answers to their questions.

At the very least > at least a sliver of hope must have existed that they would get some much-needed answers.

HE

Good grief.

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Anonymous wrote:So Mom and Dad Laundrie decide to take a stroll this morning and Dad just happens to go off the trail right at the precise spot where the white dry bag was found. Here's the video

Definitely too much of a coincidence here. I mean the first day the parents arrive at the reserve, Brian’s possessions and possibly remains are found the same morning?????
I smell a rat.
The parents likely knew where he was and were hoping that he was living in the reserve. However after so many weeks of him missing they probably thought the worst and decided to personally trek out to the reserve so they could participate in the search and hopefully find him alive.
It appears he was indeed where he claimed he would be, but sadly for his parents he likely killed himself there. They probably knew that if he were alive, then the FBI would have found him by now. After five weeks had passed they came to the conclusion that he likely was deceased and this morning went out to the Carlton Reserve to prove their suspicions correct.

Y’all are awful. They had been directing the cops to this area since September 17. It was underwater though. Chris was literally not allowed to go to the area and help search because up until yesterday it was shut down to the public. They were told they couldn’t join. Cops let Chris join a couple times and both times he brought them to this same exact area- just didn’t find them those times. It’s not a coincidence. It’s literally just the first time he was able to freely go search on his own.

I don't understand why LE couldn't find these items as quickly as the Laundries did. The location was not far from where the car was parked. They had the swamp buggies, divers and cadaver dogs. If that white bag is a dry bag, it should have been floating in the water.