Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think this is like a modern day Romeo and Juliet breakup gone tragically wrong?

She didn’t strangle herself.

+1 wt heck, pp.

No, I don’t view this as a tragic love story. Not. At. All.

+2 We will all be better off if people stop thinking that abusive relationships are tragic love stories.

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Anonymous wrote:Unpopular theory - I think they have been 100% cooperating with the FBI since Brian went missing. Doesn’t excuse the silence starting Sept 1 but still. Do we know the exact date they lawyered up?

This has bothered me for some time — we have absolutely no idea what they have and have not told the FBI. The speculation about whether they have cooperated (or not) is purely that — speculation.

I mean they raised an abuser who turned out to be a murderer and harbored a fugitive. And also didn't mention he was missing for days after he left? Give me a break. They should be held responsible for Gabby's death by the public court for the rest of their lives, and they will be.

You are speculating about all of this. It's frightening how fast the "Court of Public Opinion" makes judgments before they have heard any of the facts. The fact that the Laundries haven't spoken publicly is taken as evidence that every wild accusation against them is true. It may be that all of this is true. It may not be. What is so bad about waiting to hear from the Police? If the Police were to make a statement that the Laundrie's have been cooperating all along and were instrumental in finding Brian's remains (the latter appears to be the case), will you feel differently?

You better hope none of your children ever do anything wrong, since you seem to believe that the parents are always responsible for the sins of their children.

The "Police" in North Port haven't seemed like the brightest bulbs here...and yes, I definitely think they were instrumental in finding his remains. I think the theory floating around that they knew where he was hiding in the preserve and were hoping he was alive could be accurate. If they went to this spot themselves when it reopened to the public, found him, and then decided to 'lead' authorities to him to try and get the public/LE off their backs, it frankly makes more sense than deliberately stonewalling access to their child when his fiance who lived with them for a year plus was missing (and he came home in her van).

Why else wouldn't you report him missing right away? Other than to give him a head start? And how do you mix up the day he left?

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The body or belongings or both, were previously under water. What does that mean

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think this is like a modern day Romeo and Juliet breakup gone tragically wrong?

Are you high?

There is nothing romantic about this couple or what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:The body or belongings or both, were previously under water. What does that mean

The water level varies in the swampy area where they were found. Apparently earlier in the search the body and belongings were underwater, and now the water level has gone down and they were exposed.

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Anonymous wrote:So isn't it now a possibility that his parents killed him or gave him the means to kill himself and then left him in the park? And they've just been waiting the whole time for LE to find him? It would fit with their psychotic passive aggressiveness.

Give it a rest. They just learned their son is dead. Did you watch the video? The father crying when he got the news? They didn’t know and they weren’t involved and they are grieving. They have been vilified based on zero evidence that they had any knowledge of what happened to Gabby or knowledge or role in Brain’s disappearance. It’s sick what people have been doing to these individuals without anything to substantiate the wild accusations.

While I agree that you have included many valid points, I still think that the parents should have spoken up in the beginning.

When Gabby’s family was calling the Laundries, inquiring where she was or what they actually knew, etc., I just find it cruel that they never responded back.
While hiring a lawyer + deciding against speaking publicly is their fundamental right - morally they should have responded to Gabby’s parents and let them know what they knew.

By doing this, they only made themselves look bad.

Of course it made them look bad, but it was the smart thing to do. It’s 100% what I would have advised my clients to do as well. we don’t know what Brian told them. He may have told them absolutely nothing. Remember, her body wasn’t even found until after Brian left. They may have had zero clue that was something wrong. Brian left only two days after she was announced missing- that could have been a complete shock to the parents who could have led to him feeing a need to flee. He could have played her disappearance off as something he has no idea about. We simply don’t know what they knew or thought.

They absolutely knew something was wrong. Their son drive out west with his live-in fiancé and drove home without her. Something was definitely wrong. Even if he said they broke up, they didn’t want to know where she was? They didn’t think anything of all the calls and texts from her parents asking if they had heard anything? They didn’t think to respond “well our kid is here, no clue where your kid is”??

Exactly. That’s what is so off about their behavior. Then the seemingly indifference about their missing son for weeks.

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My main question is how did the notebook actually hold up submerged under water? Wouldn’t it just be mush? If it had been under water for weeks - under enough water to fully submerge a grown adult body?

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Anonymous wrote:My main question is how did the notebook actually hold up submerged under water? Wouldn’t it just be mush? If it had been under water for weeks - under enough water to fully submerge a grown adult body?

No, I think it would make it but with the pages stuck together if it dried. If he used pen, that would survive too, but not pencil

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Anonymous wrote:My main question is how did the notebook actually hold up submerged under water? Wouldn’t it just be mush? If it had been under water for weeks - under enough water to fully submerge a grown adult body?

If nothing else, the cover could have remained intact enough for the parents to identify.

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Anonymous wrote:So isn't it now a possibility that his parents killed him or gave him the means to kill himself and then left him in the park? And they've just been waiting the whole time for LE to find him? It would fit with their psychotic passive aggressiveness.

Give it a rest. They just learned their son is dead. Did you watch the video? The father crying when he got the news? They didn’t know and they weren’t involved and they are grieving. They have been vilified based on zero evidence that they had any knowledge of what happened to Gabby or knowledge or role in Brain’s disappearance. It’s sick what people have been doing to these individuals without anything to substantiate the wild accusations.

While I agree that you have included many valid points, I still think that the parents should have spoken up in the beginning.

When Gabby’s family was calling the Laundries, inquiring where she was or what they actually knew, etc., I just find it cruel that they never responded back.
While hiring a lawyer + deciding against speaking publicly is their fundamental right - morally they should have responded to Gabby’s parents and let them know what they knew.

By doing this, they only made themselves look bad.

Of course it made them look bad, but it was the smart thing to do. It’s 100% what I would have advised my clients to do as well. we don’t know what Brian told them. He may have told them absolutely nothing. Remember, her body wasn’t even found until after Brian left. They may have had zero clue that was something wrong. Brian left only two days after she was announced missing- that could have been a complete shock to the parents who could have led to him feeing a need to flee. He could have played her disappearance off as something he has no idea about. We simply don’t know what they knew or thought.

They absolutely knew something was wrong. Their son drive out west with his live-in fiancé and drove home without her. Something was definitely wrong. Even if he said they broke up, they didn’t want to know where she was? They didn’t think anything of all the calls and texts from her parents asking if they had heard anything? They didn’t think to respond “well our kid is here, no clue where your kid is”??

Exactly. That’s what is so off about their behavior. Then the seemingly indifference about their missing son for weeks.

How would we know whether or not they are indifferent, or that they didn’t want to know where she was, or that he didn’t make up a story explaining everything away?

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Anonymous wrote:My main question is how did the notebook actually hold up submerged under water? Wouldn’t it just be mush? If it had been under water for weeks - under enough water to fully submerge a grown adult body?

No, I think it would make it but with the pages stuck together if it dried. If he used pen, that would survive too, but not pencil

He probably kept the journal in a ziplock bag. I used to do this when I brought a journal hiking or camping.

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Anonymous wrote:So isn't it now a possibility that his parents killed him or gave him the means to kill himself and then left him in the park? And they've just been waiting the whole time for LE to find him? It would fit with their psychotic passive aggressiveness.

Give it a rest. They just learned their son is dead. Did you watch the video? The father crying when he got the news? They didn’t know and they weren’t involved and they are grieving. They have been vilified based on zero evidence that they had any knowledge of what happened to Gabby or knowledge or role in Brain’s disappearance. It’s sick what people have been doing to these individuals without anything to substantiate the wild accusations.

While I agree that you have included many valid points, I still think that the parents should have spoken up in the beginning.

When Gabby’s family was calling the Laundries, inquiring where she was or what they actually knew, etc., I just find it cruel that they never responded back.
While hiring a lawyer + deciding against speaking publicly is their fundamental right - morally they should have responded to Gabby’s parents and let them know what they knew.

By doing this, they only made themselves look bad.

Of course it made them look bad, but it was the smart thing to do. It’s 100% what I would have advised my clients to do as well. we don’t know what Brian told them. He may have told them absolutely nothing. Remember, her body wasn’t even found until after Brian left. They may have had zero clue that was something wrong. Brian left only two days after she was announced missing- that could have been a complete shock to the parents who could have led to him feeing a need to flee. He could have played her disappearance off as something he has no idea about. We simply don’t know what they knew or thought.

They absolutely knew something was wrong. Their son drive out west with his live-in fiancé and drove home without her. Something was definitely wrong. Even if he said they broke up, they didn’t want to know where she was? They didn’t think anything of all the calls and texts from her parents asking if they had heard anything? They didn’t think to respond “well our kid is here, no clue where your kid is”??

Exactly. That’s what is so off about their behavior. Then the seemingly indifference about their missing son for weeks.

How would we know whether or not they are indifferent, or that they didn’t want to know where she was, or that he didn’t make up a story explaining everything away?

They didn't do a single press conference.

They didn't answer a single phone call from Gabby Petito's family.

They didn't post any messages anywhere on social media.

They didn't release a letter to a local or national news source.

Hell, they could have printed out a memo and tacked it to their garage door.

Instead they were silent. That's indifference.

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Apparently Brian’s Father found one item then the police found another.

Not sure who found the human remains.

If the remains are not Brian Laundrie then I will be very surprised for sure.

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So Mom and Dad Laundrie decide to take a stroll this morning and Dad just happens to go off the trail right at the precise spot where the white dry bag was found. Here's the video

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Anonymous wrote:So Mom and Dad Laundrie decide to take a stroll this morning and Dad just happens to go off the trail right at the precise spot where the white dry bag was found. Here's the video

Definitely too much of a coincidence here. I mean the first day the parents arrive at the reserve, Brian’s possessions and possibly remains are found the same morning?????
I smell a rat.
The parents likely knew where he was and were hoping that he was living in the reserve. However after so many weeks of him missing they probably thought the worst and decided to personally trek out to the reserve so they could participate in the search and hopefully find him alive.
It appears he was indeed where he claimed he would be, but sadly for his parents he likely killed himself there. They probably knew that if he were alive, then the FBI would have found him by now. After five weeks had passed they came to the conclusion that he likely was deceased and this morning went out to the Carlton Reserve to prove their suspicions correct.