NYT article on LCPS high school re: racism

[Anonymous]

This worries me. I have taught my children to never use that word in any context even if they hear people of color say it. My sibling is half black and we have other mixed race family. They have many diverse friends as well and we talk about how to behave in public when together in order to keep their friends safe because their friends may face more severe consequences due to racism. While I trust they would never call a person of color this word I don’t trust they’d never say it. I can see my naive child posting a Tik Tok with a rap that uses this word and singing along without even realizing. They may think that in the context of the rap they are referring to “my friends” or “ my peeps”. Kids are not able to navigate nuances like this.

I’m glad I found this thread. I need to have another conversation about this word.

I will add that this girl lost college and not her life. The conversation I will have with my child about using this word and it’s consequences is a far cry from the conversation many mothers have with their black sons.

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Anonymous wrote:Black person here. I know that there are words that I simply cannot use. While some gay men may use the "f" word, I know that's not my lane and I can't use it. Period. Some women affectionately call each other "bitches." If I were a man, I would not use that word, no matter whether I've heard it liberally used by women.

I see a lot of whining about using the n word on this thread from conservative, white, older suburbanites. That you are defensive and triggered by the notion that you can't use a word that is a racial epithet when it leaves your lips is a testament to your privilege, and the lack of introspection that goes along with it. And while I'm a VA native, I'm so glad I'm not raising my kids anywhere near Loudon County.

This white woman agress with you. That is exactly who is defending and whining. They want to say the word so bad. How dare they not be allowed to do something. They've never been told "no" in their lives.

Except that everyone here is saying what an ugly word it is and that we have no desire to say it, ever. I also have no desire to hear it, which is why rap music isn’t allowed in our house. I’m sure you enjoy it, though.

You have no idea what color, nationality, political affliliation, culture, are responding to this thread. You sound like a racist.

[Anonymous]

The Galligans raised quite the classic mean girl. They must be really proud of Jimmy.

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Anonymous wrote:Black person here. I know that there are words that I simply cannot use. While some gay men may use the "f" word, I know that's not my lane and I can't use it. Period. Some women affectionately call each other "bitches." If I were a man, I would not use that word, no matter whether I've heard it liberally used by women.

I see a lot of whining about using the n word on this thread from conservative, white, older suburbanites. That you are defensive and triggered by the notion that you can't use a word that is a racial epithet when it leaves your lips is a testament to your privilege, and the lack of introspection that goes along with it. And while I'm a VA native, I'm so glad I'm not raising my kids anywhere near Loudon County.

This white woman agress with you. That is exactly who is defending and whining. They want to say the word so bad. How dare they not be allowed to do something. They've never been told "no" in their lives.

nobody is saying that. we’re saying the punishment was disproportionate, and the boy came off as more focused on bringing her down personally than addressing racism.

He tried to address the racism and was ignored. He was aggrieved and never made whole.

OMG. “Never made whole”? Because some girl used the n-word in a three second video that wasn’t directed towards anyone at all? Do you even hear yourself?
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Galligan is a little psychopath. Just watch the beginning of this video where he gratuitously tells a different white girl that he doesn’t like her and then says a few seconds later “don’t make me expose you to the entire community” after she responds by calling him “dumb.” He obviously had a list of different kids that he was thinking about taking down by playing the race card.

https://youtu.be/SkSAkJwjY80

He really seems to be enormously vapid and shallow at every level.

Agreed. The n-word is vile, but this kid is something else.

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

You’re right, it is almost 2021. When are you going to start calling out rappers? Ever? Or do they get a pass for some reason?

So to be clear, it is rappers fault your child throws out the n word and every other vulgar word. Your child cannot help what comes out of their mouth. In that same manner, video games and tv are to blame for your child crashing cars, stealing, drinking, cheating and everything else they might do, correct?

Sorry, what? That’s quite a leap, but not unexpected from someone who truly seems unhinged. My kids don’t do any of the above (do yours?). And if they did, of course it would be their fault. But it’s amusing that you so freely condemn some white kid for using the n-word but are perfectly fine with rappers using that and other vile words. No hypocrisy there at all.

Nope trying to blame rappers for what comes out of kids mouth is a leap. The issue isn’t rappers unless they are making kids say the n word. Are kids unable to control what comes out of their mouth or what they do?

Still waiting for you to condemn rappers, their use of the n-word, and their denigration of women. But you refuse to, which means you support them. What a great parent you must be.

Still waiting for you to acknowledge that kids have control over what comes out of their mouths. But you refuse to, which means you support sh*tty parenting and blaming everyone else.

Of course I acknowledge that people have control over what comes out of their mouths. Not one person is defending the girl, but rather pointing out your blatant hypocrisy for treating her like a criminal for uttering the n-word, yet not saying anything at all against rappers and others who use the word all.the.time. You seem to have zero grasp of reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Black person here. I know that there are words that I simply cannot use. While some gay men may use the "f" word, I know that's not my lane and I can't use it. Period. Some women affectionately call each other "bitches." If I were a man, I would not use that word, no matter whether I've heard it liberally used by women.

I see a lot of whining about using the n word on this thread from conservative, white, older suburbanites. That you are defensive and triggered by the notion that you can't use a word that is a racial epithet when it leaves your lips is a testament to your privilege, and the lack of introspection that goes along with it. And while I'm a VA native, I'm so glad I'm not raising my kids anywhere near Loudon County.

You seem confused. Not one person on this thread has expressed any desire to use the n-word - quite the contrary, in fact. It’s been stated over and over what a vile word it is. Additionally, it’s been pointed out the that millionaire rappers many idolize are saying not only the n-word, but also terrible slurs against women - yet none of you will condemn them for it. Instead, you’d rather use a 15 yr. old white girl as your boogeyman. Knock yourself out. The sane among us recognize how utterly unhinged you’d have to be to publicly condemn her for a stupid mistake, yet make no mention of the hideous rap culture she was drawing from. We see you.

Her dream school disagrees.

And we see her dream school, too. Swept up in a wave of woke-ness, lest they get canceled too. No thanks, Tennessee.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Black person here. I know that there are words that I simply cannot use. While some gay men may use the "f" word, I know that's not my lane and I can't use it. Period. Some women affectionately call each other "bitches." If I were a man, I would not use that word, no matter whether I've heard it liberally used by women.

I see a lot of whining about using the n word on this thread from conservative, white, older suburbanites. That you are defensive and triggered by the notion that you can't use a word that is a racial epithet when it leaves your lips is a testament to your privilege, and the lack of introspection that goes along with it. And while I'm a VA native, I'm so glad I'm not raising my kids anywhere near Loudon County.

This white woman agress with you. That is exactly who is defending and whining. They want to say the word so bad. How dare they not be allowed to do something. They've never been told "no" in their lives.

Except that everyone here is saying what an ugly word it is and that we have no desire to say it, ever. I also have no desire to hear it, which is why rap music isn’t allowed in our house. I’m sure you enjoy it, though.

You have no idea what color, nationality, political affliliation, culture, are responding to this thread. You sound like a racist.

Nor do you. Are you the dope who brought up Trump out of nowhere? That was kind of a leap too, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This worries me. I have taught my children to never use that word in any context even if they hear people of color say it. My sibling is half black and we have other mixed race family. They have many diverse friends as well and we talk about how to behave in public when together in order to keep their friends safe because their friends may face more severe consequences due to racism. While I trust they would never call a person of color this word I don’t trust they’d never say it. I can see my naive child posting a Tik Tok with a rap that uses this word and singing along without even realizing. They may think that in the context of the rap they are referring to “my friends” or “ my peeps”. Kids are not able to navigate nuances like this.

I’m glad I found this thread. I need to have another conversation about this word.

I will add that this girl lost college and not her life. The conversation I will have with my child about using this word and it’s consequences is a far cry from the conversation many mothers have with their black sons.

I’m black and I agree with you. Losing a college sucks but life will go on. If this were a post about some black kid getting shot most of you would find some reason as to why it all went wrong. The adults in her life failed her. She should have gotten suspended or some other punishment. She’ll be ok.

[Anonymous]

I’m crying at the moron asking when we will renounce rap. If it’s such a problem why is that all your own kids listen to? You think your kids are sitting there saying “I will never listen to Pop Smoke mother says he’s vulgar.” Nope. They’re asking me why I won’t put Roddy Rich and Da Baby on the class playlist.

White people really never think their kids should be restricted in any way from a single thing or face any consequences ever. There is ALWAYS a Black person they can blame instead.

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Anonymous wrote:The boy probably thought turning the screws on this girl for something she’d done three years ago would make him some type of social media hero who’d get into Yale for his valor, but instead here he is despised by a lot of his former classmates and at Vanguard University, which no one has ever heard of. Hope he still thinks he made the right decision.

Wow! Blame the minority for calling out a racist.

No. He called her out years ago. This is something else. What he did is worse.

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Anonymous wrote:The boy probably thought turning the screws on this girl for something she’d done three years ago would make him some type of social media hero who’d get into Yale for his valor, but instead here he is despised by a lot of his former classmates and at Vanguard University, which no one has ever heard of. Hope he still thinks he made the right decision.

Wow! Blame the minority for calling out a racist.

No. He called her out years ago. This is something else. What he did is worse.

“Saying the N word and posting it publicly is fine. Showing other people someone did that is very bad.”

This girl’s life is still fine. She didn’t get to go to UT. Oh no. She can go to any other college. She is wealthy and white. Her life will continue on JUST FINE.

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Anonymous wrote:Y’all are gonna sit here in damn near 2021 and blame your stupid white kids being racist on rap. JUST TEACH THEM NOT TO SAY THE N WORD IT ISNT HARD

You’re right, it is almost 2021. When are you going to start calling out rappers? Ever? Or do they get a pass for some reason?

So to be clear, it is rappers fault your child throws out the n word and every other vulgar word. Your child cannot help what comes out of their mouth. In that same manner, video games and tv are to blame for your child crashing cars, stealing, drinking, cheating and everything else they might do, correct?

Sorry, what? That’s quite a leap, but not unexpected from someone who truly seems unhinged. My kids don’t do any of the above (do yours?). And if they did, of course it would be their fault. But it’s amusing that you so freely condemn some white kid for using the n-word but are perfectly fine with rappers using that and other vile words. No hypocrisy there at all.

Nope trying to blame rappers for what comes out of kids mouth is a leap. The issue isn’t rappers unless they are making kids say the n word. Are kids unable to control what comes out of their mouth or what they do?

Still waiting for you to condemn rappers, their use of the n-word, and their denigration of women. But you refuse to, which means you support them. What a great parent you must be.

Still waiting for you to acknowledge that kids have control over what comes out of their mouths. But you refuse to, which means you support sh*tty parenting and blaming everyone else.

Of course I acknowledge that people have control over what comes out of their mouths. Not one person is defending the girl, but rather pointing out your blatant hypocrisy for treating her like a criminal for uttering the n-word, yet not saying anything at all against rappers and others who use the word all.the.time. You seem to have zero grasp of reality.

Are you willfully obtuse?! Several posters, including yourself, are defending this girl. You are desperately trying to shift the blame off her and anywhere else. The person responsible for this girl saying the n word is herself. She said it happily. She posted it on Tic Toc. Rappers didn’t make this girl say the n word. In fact you don’t even know if she listens to rap. All you know is that she uses a vile, racist slur in her daily vocabulary. She’s so comfortable using the word that she recorded herself and posted it for everyone to see.

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“ Are you willfully obtuse?! Several posters, including yourself, are defending this girl. You are desperately trying to shift the blame off her and anywhere else. The person responsible for this girl saying the n word is herself. She said it happily. She posted it on Tic Toc. Rappers didn’t make this girl say the n word. In fact you don’t even know if she listens to rap. All you know is that she uses a vile, racist slur in her daily vocabulary. She’s so comfortable using the word that she recorded herself and posted it for everyone to see.”

I’m not PP but you are treating this kid as if: 1) she was a grown adult when it happened and 2) she hurled the word as a slur to hurt someone. Neither is true. No one is saying it I just fine for her to use it. What many of us are saying is that kids do dumb stuff and this falls in that category - not the “she’s evil and deserves serious harm” category.

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Okay but you’re also pretending she received some outsized life ruining punishment. What she faced is commensurate with the offense. She had to withdraw from a mid tier southern university that, had they known her character, may not have ever admitted her. That is not destroying her life. In any way. In fact, it did her a favor because she now truly understands that what you post on the Internet sticks around and can impact your real life later and that you do have freedom of speech but not freedom from consequences. Honestly, it is better to learn this at 18 when she still has a soft place to land and a lot of room to grow than later in life with more to lose.

Adults are passed over for jobs or lose jobs all the time for social media posts that resurface. It happens often. She at least knows at a young age the reality of that and will be better off for it. Her life isn’t over, she didn’t lose anything “real.” She withdrew from ONE university.