Fetterman - Oz Debate — anyone keeping tabs on this?

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Whatever you might think of his candidacy, Oz has never sold himself as some blue-collar guy.

Fetterman literally is a blue collar guy, having slept in a basement, renovated a community center, built his home out of an old auto dealership, etc.

He came from an upper middle class family but has basically led a lower middle class lifestyle prior to becoming the Lt Governor.

That's a fancy way of saying he lived like a basement bum with his wife until he was practically 50. That's not blue collar. That's lazy.

Multigenerational housing is more common in Appalachia than in other parts of the country. You're just another Republican elitist spouting nonsense and denigrating lifestyles they can't possibly identify with...

I really wish you could understand how absurd your post sounds to normal people. I really do…

What is absurd about that post? I would love to hear a normal person explain exactly what about that is absurd.

The idea that "multigenerational housing in Appalachia" is used in any way to refer to trust fund slacker John Fetterman.

Sorry to hear that you're such an elitist that you simply cannot fathom family structures other than the one you grew up with.

Sorry to hear that you're so out of touch that you actually consider a trust fund kid like John Fetterman to be in any way equal to someone who grew up in Appalachia.

You are literally out of your f**king mind if you think you’re going to convince anyone that Fetterman is somehow more ‘elite’ than Oz who literally has millions and millions of dollars after years of scamming people.

Dude - you have your arguments, remember? Fetterman had a stroke and is still recovering. Go to town on that. But you need to make some GD sense. This isn’t even a close call. Oz is an elite globalist with powerful ties to other nations and a huge amt of money. Fetterman is a dude raised middle class in F**king PA. I happen to be from central PA…i the most elite thing there is a well bred dog or pony. You’ve lost your mind.

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Anonymous wrote:It was painful to watch.

It was no where near as bad as these people on twitter are making it out to be
Yes he stumbled a little more than the average politician during a debate but all things considered having had a stroke not long ago he did really well

Nonetheless no I wouldn’t vote for him at this time. Having a stroke has physical and cognitive side effects. It is possible that with the passage of time both improve but it’s not a given. There is also quite a bit of follow up medical appts and monitoring. And once a person has a stroke they are far more likely to suffer another. He needs to put time and effort into healing and that is where his energy will eventually be needed. He can continue to push himself but he will likely burn out it worse suffer another stroke. I know someone who struggled with aphasia after a stroke. It took a few months to get back to a level where he didn’t have to struggle for the most common words and about a year out, he only struggled if he became very tired. It didn’t go away completely it just improved.

Members of Congress get cancer and go out for months for treatment & recovery….including multiple bouts of cancer. Steve Scalise was shot and out of commission for months. Tons of members of congress have serious medical conditions that require ongoing care, including Senator McConnell.

Fetterman will be fine and improve with time. He will have doctors in both DC and PA helping with ongoing speech therapy.

This is truly a nothingburger. The guy isn’t a vegetable, he can think and write. Debate and speech is mostly dead in the Senate.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Whatever you might think of his candidacy, Oz has never sold himself as some blue-collar guy.

Fetterman literally is a blue collar guy, having slept in a basement, renovated a community center, built his home out of an old auto dealership, etc.

He came from an upper middle class family but has basically led a lower middle class lifestyle prior to becoming the Lt Governor.

That's a fancy way of saying he lived like a basement bum with his wife until he was practically 50. That's not blue collar. That's lazy.

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"Slept in a basement?" Ha Ha. Can't wait til PP's 45 year old son is home with mommy and daddy, "sleeping in the basement."

Where did Oz sleep? Eliot? Kirkland? Or on the Quad?

Again, your elitist denigration of hard working people is noted.

I'm ambivalent about Oz, but he was a surgeon before going into the media world. I don't think you can argue that surgeons are slackers when it comes to work.

Look, Fetterman has created an image of a blue collar guy from a hard-scrabble town in Pennsylvania that he sells to low information voters. I actually kind of respect his ability to convince people that he is something other than what he is. But, it doesn't take much effort to see through that.

So you’re going to ignore Oz being a con man for the last decade? That’s okay with you?

That's literally what it means to be a Republican. You're either in the Club, or you're not.

Fetterman is a con-man. He pretends to be something he’s not.

Oz has never pretended to be anything other than a Doctor. A REAL Dr, I mean. Not a Jill Biden “doctor”.

1) he is a turkish resident and votes in turkish elections
2) he has been selling snake oil oin TV for over a decade, he is literally a con man

Oz is a literal con man selling diet pills and fake medical supplements. He may have gotten a medical degree, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t throw all that out the window to get rich.

But MUCH more importantly. Oz is a Turkish citizen who has served in the Turkish military and retained substantial ties to Turkey’s elite. It’s absolutely shady as all hell.

And I really really love if the ‘BULD THE WALL’ MAGAs come at me for calling this sh!t out. I never said don’t come here. I said maybe your allegiance to a country WHICH YO UHAVE NEVER SERVED is in question when you actively maintain ties to a foreign (Hostile) power.

I am not a Oz fan. But criticizing over Turkish military stint is a bit too far! Are you saying a Jewish citizen of Israel or a Ukrainian who joined armed forces to fight Russia shouldn’t become a U.S. citizen and run for an elected office?

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Whatever you might think of his candidacy, Oz has never sold himself as some blue-collar guy.

Fetterman literally is a blue collar guy, having slept in a basement, renovated a community center, built his home out of an old auto dealership, etc.

He came from an upper middle class family but has basically led a lower middle class lifestyle prior to becoming the Lt Governor.

That's a fancy way of saying he lived like a basement bum with his wife until he was practically 50. That's not blue collar. That's lazy.

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"Slept in a basement?" Ha Ha. Can't wait til PP's 45 year old son is home with mommy and daddy, "sleeping in the basement."

Where did Oz sleep? Eliot? Kirkland? Or on the Quad?

Again, your elitist denigration of hard working people is noted.

I'm ambivalent about Oz, but he was a surgeon before going into the media world. I don't think you can argue that surgeons are slackers when it comes to work.

Look, Fetterman has created an image of a blue collar guy from a hard-scrabble town in Pennsylvania that he sells to low information voters. I actually kind of respect his ability to convince people that he is something other than what he is. But, it doesn't take much effort to see through that.

So you’re going to ignore Oz being a con man for the last decade? That’s okay with you?

That's literally what it means to be a Republican. You're either in the Club, or you're not.

Fetterman is a con-man. He pretends to be something he’s not.

Oz has never pretended to be anything other than a Doctor. A REAL Dr, I mean. Not a Jill Biden “doctor”.

1) he is a turkish resident and votes in turkish elections
2) he has been selling snake oil oin TV for over a decade, he is literally a con man

Oz is a literal con man selling diet pills and fake medical supplements. He may have gotten a medical degree, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t throw all that out the window to get rich.

But MUCH more importantly. Oz is a Turkish citizen who has served in the Turkish military and retained substantial ties to Turkey’s elite. It’s absolutely shady as all hell.

And I really really love if the ‘BULD THE WALL’ MAGAs come at me for calling this sh!t out. I never said don’t come here. I said maybe your allegiance to a country WHICH YO UHAVE NEVER SERVED is in question when you actively maintain ties to a foreign (Hostile) power.

I am not a Oz fan. But criticizing over Turkish military stint is a bit too far! Are you saying a Jewish citizen of Israel or a Ukrainian who joined armed forces to fight Russia shouldn’t become a U.S. citizen and run for an elected office?

Not PP but Oz has voted in more Turkish elections than Pennsylvania elections. And he’s still a dual citizen.

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83% of Pennsylvania voters through OZ won. What is most telling is the desperate defense of an indefensibly poor candidate by posters on this board. And the blatant lie about supporting fracking and his refusal to release medical records are disqualifying.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Whatever you might think of his candidacy, Oz has never sold himself as some blue-collar guy.

Fetterman literally is a blue collar guy, having slept in a basement, renovated a community center, built his home out of an old auto dealership, etc.

He came from an upper middle class family but has basically led a lower middle class lifestyle prior to becoming the Lt Governor.

That's a fancy way of saying he lived like a basement bum with his wife until he was practically 50. That's not blue collar. That's lazy.

+1000

"Slept in a basement?" Ha Ha. Can't wait til PP's 45 year old son is home with mommy and daddy, "sleeping in the basement."

Where did Oz sleep? Eliot? Kirkland? Or on the Quad?

Again, your elitist denigration of hard working people is noted.

I'm ambivalent about Oz, but he was a surgeon before going into the media world. I don't think you can argue that surgeons are slackers when it comes to work.

Look, Fetterman has created an image of a blue collar guy from a hard-scrabble town in Pennsylvania that he sells to low information voters. I actually kind of respect his ability to convince people that he is something other than what he is. But, it doesn't take much effort to see through that.

So you’re going to ignore Oz being a con man for the last decade? That’s okay with you?

That's literally what it means to be a Republican. You're either in the Club, or you're not.

Fetterman is a con-man. He pretends to be something he’s not.

Oz has never pretended to be anything other than a Doctor. A REAL Dr, I mean. Not a Jill Biden “doctor”.

1) he is a turkish resident and votes in turkish elections
2) he has been selling snake oil oin TV for over a decade, he is literally a con man

Oz is a literal con man selling diet pills and fake medical supplements. He may have gotten a medical degree, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t throw all that out the window to get rich.

But MUCH more importantly. Oz is a Turkish citizen who has served in the Turkish military and retained substantial ties to Turkey’s elite. It’s absolutely shady as all hell.

And I really really love if the ‘BULD THE WALL’ MAGAs come at me for calling this sh!t out. I never said don’t come here. I said maybe your allegiance to a country WHICH YO UHAVE NEVER SERVED is in question when you actively maintain ties to a foreign (Hostile) power.

I am not a Oz fan. But criticizing over Turkish military stint is a bit too far! Are you saying a Jewish citizen of Israel or a Ukrainian who joined armed forces to fight Russia shouldn’t become a U.S. citizen and run for an elected office?

Not PP but Oz has voted in more Turkish elections than Pennsylvania elections. And he’s still a dual citizen.

So we can't trust immigrants and dual citizens to be senators?

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Anonymous wrote:83% of Pennsylvania voters through OZ won. What is most telling is the desperate defense of an indefensibly poor candidate by posters on this board. And the blatant lie about supporting fracking and his refusal to release medical records are disqualifying.

Pennsylvania proved that refusing to release medical records was not disqualifying in 2016.

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What is really absurd is that Fetterman delayed the debate until well after mail-in voting began…..over 600k votes have already been cast. And shame on his family for putting him through this ordeal.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Whatever you might think of his candidacy, Oz has never sold himself as some blue-collar guy.

Fetterman literally is a blue collar guy, having slept in a basement, renovated a community center, built his home out of an old auto dealership, etc.

He came from an upper middle class family but has basically led a lower middle class lifestyle prior to becoming the Lt Governor.

That's a fancy way of saying he lived like a basement bum with his wife until he was practically 50. That's not blue collar. That's lazy.

+1000

"Slept in a basement?" Ha Ha. Can't wait til PP's 45 year old son is home with mommy and daddy, "sleeping in the basement."

Where did Oz sleep? Eliot? Kirkland? Or on the Quad?

Again, your elitist denigration of hard working people is noted.

I'm ambivalent about Oz, but he was a surgeon before going into the media world. I don't think you can argue that surgeons are slackers when it comes to work.

Look, Fetterman has created an image of a blue collar guy from a hard-scrabble town in Pennsylvania that he sells to low information voters. I actually kind of respect his ability to convince people that he is something other than what he is. But, it doesn't take much effort to see through that.

So you’re going to ignore Oz being a con man for the last decade? That’s okay with you?

That's literally what it means to be a Republican. You're either in the Club, or you're not.

Fetterman is a con-man. He pretends to be something he’s not.

Oz has never pretended to be anything other than a Doctor. A REAL Dr, I mean. Not a Jill Biden “doctor”.

1) he is a turkish resident and votes in turkish elections
2) he has been selling snake oil oin TV for over a decade, he is literally a con man

Oz is a literal con man selling diet pills and fake medical supplements. He may have gotten a medical degree, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t throw all that out the window to get rich.

But MUCH more importantly. Oz is a Turkish citizen who has served in the Turkish military and retained substantial ties to Turkey’s elite. It’s absolutely shady as all hell.

And I really really love if the ‘BULD THE WALL’ MAGAs come at me for calling this sh!t out. I never said don’t come here. I said maybe your allegiance to a country WHICH YO UHAVE NEVER SERVED is in question when you actively maintain ties to a foreign (Hostile) power.

I am not a Oz fan. But criticizing over Turkish military stint is a bit too far! Are you saying a Jewish citizen of Israel or a Ukrainian who joined armed forces to fight Russia shouldn’t become a U.S. citizen and run for an elected office?

Not PP but Oz has voted in more Turkish elections than Pennsylvania elections. And he’s still a dual citizen.

So we can't trust immigrants and dual citizens to be senators?

you can if you want. Many might prefer their representatives to be all in on American citizenship. This is why we vote and choose.

Oh...and then respect the result of the election. There is that part too

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t consider reaching for words after a stroke to be a mental impairment.
His thoughts on policy are clear. I don’t care to hear politicians pander to the camera for sound bites.
He’ll be a good senator.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t consider reaching for words after a stroke to be a mental impairment.
His thoughts on policy are clear. I don’t care to hear politicians pander to the camera for sound bites.
He’ll be a good senator.

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You don’t think it’s important for a US Senator to be able to process information and communicate effectively? Well you found your candidate I suppose but perhaps you might want to be a bit more thoughtful about what qualifies a person to be Senator. And btw, I’m not at all a fan of oz but objectively fetterman is a dismal candidate even setting aside his health.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t consider reaching for words after a stroke to be a mental impairment.
His thoughts on policy are clear. I don’t care to hear politicians pander to the camera for sound bites.
He’ll be a good senator.

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You don’t think it’s important for a US Senator to be able to process information and communicate effectively? Well you found your candidate I suppose but perhaps you might want to be a bit more thoughtful about what qualifies a person to be Senator. And btw, I’m not at all a fan of oz but objectively fetterman is a dismal candidate even setting aside his health.

DH just told me he was on a group Zoom call with national leaders in his field-- and Fetterman--last week. He said Fetterman did not stumble on his words or need any special equipment like a transcription machine or teleprompter. It was a small group (10 or under) and Fetterman didn't seem to have prepared remarks, so maybe he does better in a smaller setting where he can be himself. I asked DH twice to clarify whether or not Fetterman seemed to stumble over words or hesitate and he answered both times that he did not. So I'm going with that piece of insight into Fetterman's mental acuity--and not what anyone else says.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t consider reaching for words after a stroke to be a mental impairment.
His thoughts on policy are clear. I don’t care to hear politicians pander to the camera for sound bites.
He’ll be a good senator.

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You don’t think it’s important for a US Senator to be able to process information and communicate effectively? Well you found your candidate I suppose but perhaps you might want to be a bit more thoughtful about what qualifies a person to be Senator. And btw, I’m not at all a fan of oz but objectively fetterman is a dismal candidate even setting aside his health.

DH just told me he was on a group Zoom call with national leaders in his field-- and Fetterman--last week. He said Fetterman did not stumble on his words or need any special equipment like a transcription machine or teleprompter. It was a small group (10 or under) and Fetterman didn't seem to have prepared remarks, so maybe he does better in a smaller setting where he can be himself. I asked DH twice to clarify whether or not Fetterman seemed to stumble over words or hesitate and he answered both times that he did not. So I'm going with that piece of insight into Fetterman's mental acuity--and not what anyone else says.

Great - you and your husband and 9 other people know that. You'd better call up all 13 million PA residents and tell them.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t consider reaching for words after a stroke to be a mental impairment.
His thoughts on policy are clear. I don’t care to hear politicians pander to the camera for sound bites.
He’ll be a good senator.

+1

You don’t think it’s important for a US Senator to be able to process information and communicate effectively? Well you found your candidate I suppose but perhaps you might want to be a bit more thoughtful about what qualifies a person to be Senator. And btw, I’m not at all a fan of oz but objectively fetterman is a dismal candidate even setting aside his health.

DH just told me he was on a group Zoom call with national leaders in his field-- and Fetterman--last week. He said Fetterman did not stumble on his words or need any special equipment like a transcription machine or teleprompter. It was a small group (10 or under) and Fetterman didn't seem to have prepared remarks, so maybe he does better in a smaller setting where he can be himself. I asked DH twice to clarify whether or not Fetterman seemed to stumble over words or hesitate and he answered both times that he did not. So I'm going with that piece of insight into Fetterman's mental acuity--and not what anyone else says.

Sounds anecdotal, and therefore irrelevant.

His performance last night is what he should be judged on.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Whatever you might think of his candidacy, Oz has never sold himself as some blue-collar guy.

Fetterman literally is a blue collar guy, having slept in a basement, renovated a community center, built his home out of an old auto dealership, etc.

He came from an upper middle class family but has basically led a lower middle class lifestyle prior to becoming the Lt Governor.

That's a fancy way of saying he lived like a basement bum with his wife until he was practically 50. That's not blue collar. That's lazy.

Multigenerational housing is more common in Appalachia than in other parts of the country. You're just another Republican elitist spouting nonsense and denigrating lifestyles they can't possibly identify with...

I really wish you could understand how absurd your post sounds to normal people. I really do…

What is absurd about that post? I would love to hear a normal person explain exactly what about that is absurd.

The idea that "multigenerational housing in Appalachia" is used in any way to refer to trust fund slacker John Fetterman.

Sorry to hear that you're such an elitist that you simply cannot fathom family structures other than the one you grew up with.

Sorry to hear that you're so out of touch that you actually consider a trust fund kid like John Fetterman to be in any way equal to someone who grew up in Appalachia.

You are literally out of your f**king mind if you think you’re going to convince anyone that Fetterman is somehow more ‘elite’ than Oz who literally has millions and millions of dollars after years of scamming people.

Dude - you have your arguments, remember? Fetterman had a stroke and is still recovering. Go to town on that. But you need to make some GD sense. This isn’t even a close call. Oz is an elite globalist with powerful ties to other nations and a huge amt of money. Fetterman is a dude raised middle class in F**king PA. I happen to be from central PA…i the most elite thing there is a well bred dog or pony. You’ve lost your mind.

Weird flex, bro.