Fetterman - Oz Debate — anyone keeping tabs on this?

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Whatever you might think of his candidacy, Oz has never sold himself as some blue-collar guy.

Fetterman literally is a blue collar guy, having slept in a basement, renovated a community center, built his home out of an old auto dealership, etc.

He came from an upper middle class family but has basically led a lower middle class lifestyle prior to becoming the Lt Governor.

That's a fancy way of saying he lived like a basement bum with his wife until he was practically 50. That's not blue collar. That's lazy.

Multigenerational housing is more common in Appalachia than in other parts of the country. You're just another Republican elitist spouting nonsense and denigrating lifestyles they can't possibly identify with...

Fetterman isn't from Appalachia. He's from "another part of the country"--born in Berks county and moved to York county as a child. He didn't move to Appalachia until far into adulthood.

Well, he's lived in Appalachia for the last 20 years.

Are you Potomac or McLean?

Fetterman held an unarmed black jogger at gun point.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/us/politics/john-fetterman-gun-black-jogger.html#:~:text=As%20a%20mayor%20in%202013%2C%20Mr.%20Fetterman%2C%20a,no%20weapons%20on%20Mr.%20Miyares%20and%20released%20him.

A republican doing this and then running for Senate years later would lead to riots. Cities would burn. People would die.

But Fetterman gets a pass because he’s a Dem.

Christopher Miyares endorsed Fetterman. If he can move on from this surely you can?

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Anonymous wrote:I love how upset the right wing trolls are that this debate isn’t moving the needle at all in PA because voters there don’t want a snake oil carpetbagger.

Maybe it didn’t move the needle among people posting in the DCUM Political Discussion forum, but how many of the nerds posting here are going to vote in Pennsylvania?

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Laughs!
The debate HAS moved the needle waaay over to Oz's advantage.
Psssst...its over.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Whatever you might think of his candidacy, Oz has never sold himself as some blue-collar guy.

Fetterman literally is a blue collar guy, having slept in a basement, renovated a community center, built his home out of an old auto dealership, etc.

He came from an upper middle class family but has basically led a lower middle class lifestyle prior to becoming the Lt Governor.

That's a fancy way of saying he lived like a basement bum with his wife until he was practically 50. That's not blue collar. That's lazy.

Multigenerational housing is more common in Appalachia than in other parts of the country. You're just another Republican elitist spouting nonsense and denigrating lifestyles they can't possibly identify with...

Fetterman isn't from Appalachia. He's from "another part of the country"--born in Berks county and moved to York county as a child. He didn't move to Appalachia until far into adulthood.

Well, he's lived in Appalachia for the last 20 years.

Are you Potomac or McLean?

Fetterman held an unarmed black jogger at gun point.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/us/politics/john-fetterman-gun-black-jogger.html#:~:text=As%20a%20mayor%20in%202013%2C%20Mr.%20Fetterman%2C%20a,no%20weapons%20on%20Mr.%20Miyares%20and%20released%20him.

A republican doing this and then running for Senate years later would lead to riots. Cities would burn. People would die.

But Fetterman gets a pass because he’s a Dem.

Christopher Miyares endorsed Fetterman. If he can move on from this surely you can?

Yes! He sure did from his jail cell! What a righteous endorsement!

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Anonymous wrote:I love how upset the right wing trolls are that this debate isn’t moving the needle at all in PA because voters there don’t want a snake oil carpetbagger.

The dems are going to be hard pressed to commit enough vote fraud to drag Fetterman across the line.

Funny, since the highest-profile instances of voter fraud in PA were all from Republicans cheating to toss more votes toward Donald Trump. Just more projection from a typical scumbag Republican.

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Lying snake oil salesman or someone who has made remarkable strides after a stroke. I’ll go with the latter.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Whatever you might think of his candidacy, Oz has never sold himself as some blue-collar guy.

Fetterman literally is a blue collar guy, having slept in a basement, renovated a community center, built his home out of an old auto dealership, etc.

He came from an upper middle class family but has basically led a lower middle class lifestyle prior to becoming the Lt Governor.

That's a fancy way of saying he lived like a basement bum with his wife until he was practically 50. That's not blue collar. That's lazy.

Multigenerational housing is more common in Appalachia than in other parts of the country. You're just another Republican elitist spouting nonsense and denigrating lifestyles they can't possibly identify with...

I really wish you could understand how absurd your post sounds to normal people. I really do…

What is absurd about that post? I would love to hear a normal person explain exactly what about that is absurd.

The idea that "multigenerational housing in Appalachia" is used in any way to refer to trust fund slacker John Fetterman.

Sorry to hear that you're such an elitist that you simply cannot fathom family structures other than the one you grew up with.

Sorry to hear that you're so out of touch that you actually consider a trust fund kid like John Fetterman to be in any way equal to someone who grew up in Appalachia.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how upset the right wing trolls are that this debate isn’t moving the needle at all in PA because voters there don’t want a snake oil carpetbagger.

Maybe it didn’t move the needle among people posting in the DCUM Political Discussion forum, but how many of the nerds posting here are going to vote in Pennsylvania?

It’s not moving the needle in PA. The polls already show this. In fact there are polls showing people in PA thought Fetterman won. It’s causing right wing troll apoplexy which is amusing to watch.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how upset the right wing trolls are that this debate isn’t moving the needle at all in PA because voters there don’t want a snake oil carpetbagger.

Maybe it didn’t move the needle among people posting in the DCUM Political Discussion forum, but how many of the nerds posting here are going to vote in Pennsylvania?

It’s not moving the needle in PA. The polls already show this. In fact there are polls showing people in PA thought Fetterman won. It’s causing right wing troll apoplexy which is amusing to watch.

Interesting.

According to the WPHI poll, Oz won decisively.


But here’s at least one newspaper that seems to agree with you. I included a link to save you the time for searching it out.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fetterman-declared-debate-winner-by-pennsylvania-paper-sparking-ridicule/ar-AA13ow2m

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As a Greek-American, I'm really concerned about Oz's ties to Erdogan, who is a disaster for Turks and keeps threatening Greece ("We will come suddenly in the night..." etc.). He is also an Armenian genocide denier. Makes me wonder if helping Erdogan/Turkey is one of his motives for running...

PS. He's still a Turkish citizen and served in the Turkish military.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Whatever you might think of his candidacy, Oz has never sold himself as some blue-collar guy.

Fetterman literally is a blue collar guy, having slept in a basement, renovated a community center, built his home out of an old auto dealership, etc.

He came from an upper middle class family but has basically led a lower middle class lifestyle prior to becoming the Lt Governor.

That's a fancy way of saying he lived like a basement bum with his wife until he was practically 50. That's not blue collar. That's lazy.

+1000

"Slept in a basement?" Ha Ha. Can't wait til PP's 45 year old son is home with mommy and daddy, "sleeping in the basement."

Where did Oz sleep? Eliot? Kirkland? Or on the Quad?

Again, your elitist denigration of hard working people is noted.

I'm ambivalent about Oz, but he was a surgeon before going into the media world. I don't think you can argue that surgeons are slackers when it comes to work.

Look, Fetterman has created an image of a blue collar guy from a hard-scrabble town in Pennsylvania that he sells to low information voters. I actually kind of respect his ability to convince people that he is something other than what he is. But, it doesn't take much effort to see through that.

So you’re going to ignore Oz being a con man for the last decade? That’s okay with you?

That's literally what it means to be a Republican. You're either in the Club, or you're not.

Fetterman is a con-man. He pretends to be something he’s not.

Oz has never pretended to be anything other than a Doctor. A REAL Dr, I mean. Not a Jill Biden “doctor”.

1) he is a turkish resident and votes in turkish elections
2) he has been selling snake oil oin TV for over a decade, he is literally a con man

Oz is a literal con man selling diet pills and fake medical supplements. He may have gotten a medical degree, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t throw all that out the window to get rich.

But MUCH more importantly. Oz is a Turkish citizen who has served in the Turkish military and retained substantial ties to Turkey’s elite. It’s absolutely shady as all hell.

And I really really love if the ‘BULD THE WALL’ MAGAs come at me for calling this sh!t out. I never said don’t come here. I said maybe your allegiance to a country WHICH YO UHAVE NEVER SERVED is in question when you actively maintain ties to a foreign (Hostile) power.

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Anonymous wrote:Laughs!
The debate HAS moved the needle waaay over to Oz's advantage.
Psssst...its over.

Wow, super convincing stuff there.

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Anonymous wrote:Lying snake oil salesman or someone who has made remarkable strides after a stroke. I’ll go with the latter.

I agree.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you trashing Fetterman clearly have issues with those with disabilities or differing abilities. So I'm calling the bigots for what they are. Difficulty with speech does not mean mentally impaired. There is nothing to indicate that he is mentally impaired or has worse odds of keeling over than the dozens of 80 year olds in Congress right now.

I’m not picking on Fetterman because he had a stroke. I’m picking on him because he’s a complete and utter fraud.

He’s trying to pretend to be the vanguard of “the working class”, wearing hoodies and carhardt jackets and showing his sleeve tattoos and talking about the struggle of the blue collar people.

The truth is he comes from a wealthy family, has never had a real job outside of politics, and has literally NEVER worked a day in his life in the kinds of jobs he wants his image to portray. He wants people to think he was a career tradesman, like an electrician or a plumber, because he wears a hoodie or a workman’s coat. Nope. He was a small town mayor, and then a lieutenant governor.

The guy’s whole persona is a sham. He’s fake. He’s just a run of the mill leftist progressive. Even the police dept FOP of his old town where he was mayor won’t endorse him.

He’s a phony.

As opposed to Dr. Oz - the guy whose dad is a wealthy surgeon and mom who comes from wealthy Ottoman royalty? Who paid for his elite Ivy education and med school at Penn? That "man of the people"?

Give me a break. Guys like Oz haven't spent one day with the "working class." He glided from prep school, to Harvard, to Penn, to hobnobbing with other doctors and eventually celebrities.

Whatever you might think of his candidacy, Oz has never sold himself as some blue-collar guy.

Fetterman literally is a blue collar guy, having slept in a basement, renovated a community center, built his home out of an old auto dealership, etc.

He came from an upper middle class family but has basically led a lower middle class lifestyle prior to becoming the Lt Governor.

That's a fancy way of saying he lived like a basement bum with his wife until he was practically 50. That's not blue collar. That's lazy.

Multigenerational housing is more common in Appalachia than in other parts of the country. You're just another Republican elitist spouting nonsense and denigrating lifestyles they can't possibly identify with...

I really wish you could understand how absurd your post sounds to normal people. I really do…

What is absurd about that post? I would love to hear a normal person explain exactly what about that is absurd.

The idea that "multigenerational housing in Appalachia" is used in any way to refer to trust fund slacker John Fetterman.

Sorry to hear that you're such an elitist that you simply cannot fathom family structures other than the one you grew up with.

Sorry to hear that you're so out of touch that you actually consider a trust fund kid like John Fetterman to be in any way equal to someone who grew up in Appalachia.

You are literally out of your f**king mind if you think you’re going to convince anyone that Fetterman is somehow more ‘elite’ than Oz who literally has millions and millions of dollars after years of scamming people.

Dude - you have your arguments, remember? Fetterman had a stroke and is still recovering. Go to town on that. But you need to make some GD sense. This isn’t even a close call. Oz is an elite globalist with powerful ties to other nations and a huge amt of money. Fetterman is a dude raised middle class in F**king PA. I happen to be from central PA…i the most elite thing there is a well bred dog or pony. You’ve lost your mind.