BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.


Time to move on from what?
We can’t just decide it’s over - especially when it’s surging.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!


SO not funny.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.


Time to move on from what?
We can’t just decide it’s over - especially when it’s surging.


Also, a genuine question: What does "moving on" look like? Do you do anything at all to avoid getting or spreading COVID?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.


Time to move on from what?
We can’t just decide it’s over - especially when it’s surging.


There's no such thing as COVID being "over."
Anonymous
My buttocks is scared this surge is real
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.


Time to move on from what?
We can’t just decide it’s over - especially when it’s surging.


Is it surging, though? The poop data at Biobot isn't showing much increase. https://biobot.io/data/ This is probably the best indicator we have of viral prevalence now since people take tests at home.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.


Time to move on from what?
We can’t just decide it’s over - especially when it’s surging.


Is it surging, though? The poop data at Biobot isn't showing much increase. https://biobot.io/data/ This is probably the best indicator we have of viral prevalence now since people take tests at home.



Yes it is clown look at Portugal
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.


Time to move on from what?
We can’t just decide it’s over - especially when it’s surging.


Is it surging, though? The poop data at Biobot isn't showing much increase. https://biobot.io/data/ This is probably the best indicator we have of viral prevalence now since people take tests at home.



Yes it is clown look at Portugal


Please link to Portugal's poop data.
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Anonymous wrote:I have been home sick for two weeks. My family has only done outdoor stuff and we just tested positive. Either you have good natural immunity or you are pretending you never got it by not testing. To who ever gave this to us, you are a horrible person.


Somebody in your family has some splainin to do.


No, this variant is just that contagious. I always wear a mask indoors. Always. And I only wear ASTM level 3 certified surgical masks that have saved me countless times as a teacher with very close exposure to positive kids. This variant got me, and I’m pretty sick right now with a fever and every other symptom despite 3 vaccines and prior infection with the January Omicron.


I have not left my house in a few weeks. Family is really just outdoors except a few very quick in and out stores. I was shocked when my spouse said they were positive and then I tested positive as I’ve barely even left my bed. Extremely contagious as we are as careful as they come.


Your DH has some secrets. A few quickies, for sure.


He got it with a hooker for sure

Maybe but not sure when he’d have the opportunity given he’s mostly home or with the kids.


I think you are referring to COVID season 5 re: monkey pox.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.


Time to move on from what?
We can’t just decide it’s over - especially when it’s surging.


Also, a genuine question: What does "moving on" look like? Do you do anything at all to avoid getting or spreading COVID?


No, you don’t. You can wear a mask if you want. But no one should have to and no one else should be subjected to testing. You live your life. If you get Covid, you recover at home and move on. You will likely recover without incident in a few days and be fine. And if you aren’t, you are the small minority. Of well. That is life
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.


Time to move on from what?
We can’t just decide it’s over - especially when it’s surging.


Also, a genuine question: What does "moving on" look like? Do you do anything at all to avoid getting or spreading COVID?


No, you don’t. You can wear a mask if you want. But no one should have to and no one else should be subjected to testing. You live your life. If you get Covid, you recover at home and move on. You will likely recover without incident in a few days and be fine. And if you aren’t, you are the small minority. Of well. That is life


Perhaps hospitals test pre-op and on admission and they continue to masks…

But general population, schools, camp, work, nope. Stay home if you are unwell as before
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.


Time to move on from what?
We can’t just decide it’s over - especially when it’s surging.


Also, a genuine question: What does "moving on" look like? Do you do anything at all to avoid getting or spreading COVID?


No, you don’t. You can wear a mask if you want. But no one should have to and no one else should be subjected to testing. You live your life. If you get Covid, you recover at home and move on. You will likely recover without incident in a few days and be fine. And if you aren’t, you are the small minority. Of well. That is life


Perhaps hospitals test pre-op and on admission and they continue to masks…

But general population, schools, camp, work, nope. Stay home if you are unwell as before


I went the whole pandemic with no Covid. Almost two weeks ago, I got B5.a. I’ve never been so sick and it won’t end. I am a healthy person. I think this virus is going to be very different than our “new normal”.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.


Time to move on from what?
We can’t just decide it’s over - especially when it’s surging.


Also, a genuine question: What does "moving on" look like? Do you do anything at all to avoid getting or spreading COVID?


No, you don’t. You can wear a mask if you want. But no one should have to and no one else should be subjected to testing. You live your life. If you get Covid, you recover at home and move on. You will likely recover without incident in a few days and be fine. And if you aren’t, you are the small minority. Of well. That is life


Perhaps hospitals test pre-op and on admission and they continue to masks…

But general population, schools, camp, work, nope. Stay home if you are unwell as before


I went the whole pandemic with no Covid. Almost two weeks ago, I got B5.a. I’ve never been so sick and it won’t end. I am a healthy person. I think this virus is going to be very different than our “new normal”.


Same went two years without Covid until 3 weeks back.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


Completely agree. We have vaccines that are effective at preventing serious illnesses, prophylactics for high-risk individuals, and treatments for those that catch covid. Time to move on.


Time to move on from what?
We can’t just decide it’s over - especially when it’s surging.


Also, a genuine question: What does "moving on" look like? Do you do anything at all to avoid getting or spreading COVID?


No, you don’t. You can wear a mask if you want. But no one should have to and no one else should be subjected to testing. You live your life. If you get Covid, you recover at home and move on. You will likely recover without incident in a few days and be fine. And if you aren’t, you are the small minority. Of well. That is life


Perhaps hospitals test pre-op and on admission and they continue to masks…

But general population, schools, camp, work, nope. Stay home if you are unwell as before


How unwell do you need to be to stay home? When do you leave your home? When all symptoms are gone?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.


My father has no immune system at the moment due to cancer. Also due to cancer, he has to leave his home on a regular basis (weekly) for appointments, PT, OT, etc. Eventually he did get Covid (in an doctor’s office setting) but with vaccination + Paxlovid, the illness was manageable.

We are doing what we can to keep him safe, but at this stage of COVID, it is not the broader society’s job to do that.
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