BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country

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Anonymous wrote:The worst part of Covid is the restrictions. But this is only applicable for kids now. No one is making adults tests


We have no restrictions


If you take a sick day from work bc you have a cold is your work requiring you submit proof of negative test before you return to work? No adult I know has to do this. If you are an adult, it is up to you if you want to test or not. You have the ability to stay home for a day or two, not test then come back the day you are feeling better, maybe you had/have covid, maybe not. As an adult, if you feel heathy you are expected to be at work and no one is asking otherwise. No one is regulating adults in the workplace the way we are regulating kids at school and at camps. At least last school year they couldn’t. Every sniffle required a covid negative confirmation.


That is not a restriction that is a precaution. Even a cold generally does not last a day. Work should ask for a negative test. Good for them.


Literally no one is asking for a negative test. Not school or work.


Nearly every summer camp did this summer. Lots of kids missed out on summer camp of symptomatic covid or being a close contact and the camp not allowing them to attend.



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We are limiting activities 2 weeks before camp. My kids love to go and they chose to be safe before camp so they wouldn’t miss it.


We are just in one activity and just got Covid. No friends, no family, no nothing and still got it.


Yes, you caught it from taking your kid unmasked to an indoor activity. That's what happens, PP.


No, my kids have not been indoors. They were unmasked outdoors only. Good try. I don’t bring my kids indoors anywhere and on the rare occasion they wear n95.


Are you being sarcastic?


Sadly, no. I am not. My kids have not been indoors anywhere since activities ended in May. School was online. They have not been anywhere indoors and my spouse only went the pharmacy and carry out. So, the only place my spouse or kids could have gotten it was outdoors/close contact as many are turning up positive from emails. I have not been out of the house for several weeks.


Does someone in your household have cancer? Why are you doing this to yourselves?
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Anonymous wrote:The worst part of Covid is the restrictions. But this is only applicable for kids now. No one is making adults tests


We have no restrictions


You don’t have restrictions. Many many people with kids are still figuring out how to work with and around restrictions.


There are no restrictions. If you work, you pay for care and back up care. Stop complaining if you will not be part of the solution.


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Of course I pay for care. You can't hire someone for sick care (the "back up").

The restrictions are the weird sh** that every camp and daycare suddenly decides to do (eg., person in house testing positive = keep other child home for 5+ days). Masking still required, as well.

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As long as hospitalizations don't go up, I'm not concerned. But I do wear a mask indoors, because I don't want to waste my time having COVID for a week. I have better things to do.


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Same. I have a bunch of plans that I don’t want to cancel. Still worth masking to avoid catching it.


Agree. Also, I had COVID previously (even though I am vaccinated and wear a mask indoors), and although it certainly wasn't life threatening, I felt like I had a horrible flu. I'd prefer to avoid that feeling again.
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Anonymous wrote:The worst part of Covid is the restrictions. But this is only applicable for kids now. No one is making adults tests


We have no restrictions


If you take a sick day from work bc you have a cold is your work requiring you submit proof of negative test before you return to work? No adult I know has to do this. If you are an adult, it is up to you if you want to test or not. You have the ability to stay home for a day or two, not test then come back the day you are feeling better, maybe you had/have covid, maybe not. As an adult, if you feel heathy you are expected to be at work and no one is asking otherwise. No one is regulating adults in the workplace the way we are regulating kids at school and at camps. At least last school year they couldn’t. Every sniffle required a covid negative confirmation.


That is not a restriction that is a precaution. Even a cold generally does not last a day. Work should ask for a negative test. Good for them.


Literally no one is asking for a negative test. Not school or work.


Nearly every summer camp did this summer. Lots of kids missed out on summer camp of symptomatic covid or being a close contact and the camp not allowing them to attend.



Daycares and preschools are. Which, I honestly don't even care mind personally, but understand it is a huge burden for some.


Sadly if people cannot self regulate and will send in kids exposed or sick, it’s necessary.


Oh my god. People have been saying this for a year-plus. What happens is that a kid tests positive in the daycare. Then ALL of the kids (negative ones as well) get sent home for whatever amount of time the daycare has deemed is the correct time. Some are still doing 10 days.

So people aren't "sending in sick kids." The restrictions cause a huge burden, and there was already a childcare shortage BEFORE the pandemic. You can't easily find alternative care.
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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


How pompous can you get.


My favorite is that most of the people I know with this selfish, pompous attitude claim to be “Christian.” Yeah, that attitude is deeeeeefinitely what Jesus would do.


I am not christian, but i side with PP. You all need to move on with your lives.
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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


How pompous can you get.


My favorite is that most of the people I know with this selfish, pompous attitude claim to be “Christian.” Yeah, that attitude is deeeeeefinitely what Jesus would do.


I am not christian, but i side with PP. You all need to move on with your lives.


If I moved on with my life and followed CDC guidelines, then I would have left my house on day 6 or 7 and infected people with a still active virus. I will not leave my house until I’m negative because it just wouldn’t be right.
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Anonymous wrote:The worst part of Covid is the restrictions. But this is only applicable for kids now. No one is making adults tests


We have no restrictions


If you take a sick day from work bc you have a cold is your work requiring you submit proof of negative test before you return to work? No adult I know has to do this. If you are an adult, it is up to you if you want to test or not. You have the ability to stay home for a day or two, not test then come back the day you are feeling better, maybe you had/have covid, maybe not. As an adult, if you feel heathy you are expected to be at work and no one is asking otherwise. No one is regulating adults in the workplace the way we are regulating kids at school and at camps. At least last school year they couldn’t. Every sniffle required a covid negative confirmation.


That is not a restriction that is a precaution. Even a cold generally does not last a day. Work should ask for a negative test. Good for them.


Literally no one is asking for a negative test. Not school or work.


Nearly every summer camp did this summer. Lots of kids missed out on summer camp of symptomatic covid or being a close contact and the camp not allowing them to attend.



Daycares and preschools are. Which, I honestly don't even care mind personally, but understand it is a huge burden for some.


Sadly if people cannot self regulate and will send in kids exposed or sick, it’s necessary.


If you make it too hard to follow the "rules" then people will work around the "rules." Working parents have been dealing with ridiculous and unsustainable quarantine policies for over 2 years now. If you're going to have to pull your kids out of daycare for 10-15 days if a family member tests positive for COVID, the natural thing to do is to not test for COVID.

If you want to see something different, fix the rules.
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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


How pompous can you get.


My favorite is that most of the people I know with this selfish, pompous attitude claim to be “Christian.” Yeah, that attitude is deeeeeefinitely what Jesus would do.


I am not christian, but i side with PP. You all need to move on with your lives.


If I moved on with my life and followed CDC guidelines, then I would have left my house on day 6 or 7 and infected people with a still active virus. I will not leave my house until I’m negative because it just wouldn’t be right.


What makes you so sure you were contagious? The CDC has said that a positive rapid test does not mean you're contagious. And even if there is still some live virus, that doesn't mean you're still shedding transmissible virus at significant levels. We know people are generally less contagious further along.
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I’m not SURE I’m contagious, but I can’t go out as long as I test positive. That seems irresponsible and crazy to me. Maybe if I’m still testing positive in two weeks, I’ll reconsider but not now.
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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


How pompous can you get.


My favorite is that most of the people I know with this selfish, pompous attitude claim to be “Christian.” Yeah, that attitude is deeeeeefinitely what Jesus would do.


I am not christian, but i side with PP. You all need to move on with your lives.


If I moved on with my life and followed CDC guidelines, then I would have left my house on day 6 or 7 and infected people with a still active virus. I will not leave my house until I’m negative because it just wouldn’t be right.


Thank you, PP. We have way too few intelligent, decent people in our society who care about doing the right thing FOR OTHERS. Most people only care about themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:The worst part of Covid is the restrictions. But this is only applicable for kids now. No one is making adults tests


We have no restrictions


If you take a sick day from work bc you have a cold is your work requiring you submit proof of negative test before you return to work? No adult I know has to do this. If you are an adult, it is up to you if you want to test or not. You have the ability to stay home for a day or two, not test then come back the day you are feeling better, maybe you had/have covid, maybe not. As an adult, if you feel heathy you are expected to be at work and no one is asking otherwise. No one is regulating adults in the workplace the way we are regulating kids at school and at camps. At least last school year they couldn’t. Every sniffle required a covid negative confirmation.


That is not a restriction that is a precaution. Even a cold generally does not last a day. Work should ask for a negative test. Good for them.


Literally no one is asking for a negative test. Not school or work.


Nearly every summer camp did this summer. Lots of kids missed out on summer camp of symptomatic covid or being a close contact and the camp not allowing them to attend.



Daycares and preschools are. Which, I honestly don't even care mind personally, but understand it is a huge burden for some.


Sadly if people cannot self regulate and will send in kids exposed or sick, it’s necessary.


If you make it too hard to follow the "rules" then people will work around the "rules." Working parents have been dealing with ridiculous and unsustainable quarantine policies for over 2 years now. If you're going to have to pull your kids out of daycare for 10-15 days if a family member tests positive for COVID, the natural thing to do is to not test for COVID.

If you want to see something different, fix the rules.


LOL I would do much better on my diet if it included eating cake and chips on the couch every night. Want me to be successful at my diet? Change the rules to include more dessert and snacks. There, problem solved. Oh wait, I won't lose any weight that way but at least I will be following a diet.

We have rules to stop the spread of COVID. It's hard, but we can do it.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


How pompous can you get.


My favorite is that most of the people I know with this selfish, pompous attitude claim to be “Christian.” Yeah, that attitude is deeeeeefinitely what Jesus would do.


I am not christian, but i side with PP. You all need to move on with your lives.


If I moved on with my life and followed CDC guidelines, then I would have left my house on day 6 or 7 and infected people with a still active virus. I will not leave my house until I’m negative because it just wouldn’t be right.


What makes you so sure you were contagious? The CDC has said that a positive rapid test does not mean you're contagious. And even if there is still some live virus, that doesn't mean you're still shedding transmissible virus at significant levels. We know people are generally less contagious further along.


I saw they believe with BA5 you are contagious up to 8 days now.
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Anonymous wrote:The worst part of Covid is the restrictions. But this is only applicable for kids now. No one is making adults tests


We have no restrictions


If you take a sick day from work bc you have a cold is your work requiring you submit proof of negative test before you return to work? No adult I know has to do this. If you are an adult, it is up to you if you want to test or not. You have the ability to stay home for a day or two, not test then come back the day you are feeling better, maybe you had/have covid, maybe not. As an adult, if you feel heathy you are expected to be at work and no one is asking otherwise. No one is regulating adults in the workplace the way we are regulating kids at school and at camps. At least last school year they couldn’t. Every sniffle required a covid negative confirmation.


That is not a restriction that is a precaution. Even a cold generally does not last a day. Work should ask for a negative test. Good for them.


Literally no one is asking for a negative test. Not school or work.


Nearly every summer camp did this summer. Lots of kids missed out on summer camp of symptomatic covid or being a close contact and the camp not allowing them to attend.



Daycares and preschools are. Which, I honestly don't even care mind personally, but understand it is a huge burden for some.


Sadly if people cannot self regulate and will send in kids exposed or sick, it’s necessary.


If you make it too hard to follow the "rules" then people will work around the "rules." Working parents have been dealing with ridiculous and unsustainable quarantine policies for over 2 years now. If you're going to have to pull your kids out of daycare for 10-15 days if a family member tests positive for COVID, the natural thing to do is to not test for COVID.

If you want to see something different, fix the rules.


LOL I would do much better on my diet if it included eating cake and chips on the couch every night. Want me to be successful at my diet? Change the rules to include more dessert and snacks. There, problem solved. Oh wait, I won't lose any weight that way but at least I will be following a diet.

We have rules to stop the spread of COVID. It's hard, but we can do it.


Until you start paying other peoples’ bills, you can cut it with your cutsey posts. People not working for weeks on end is not analogous to your stupid carb free diet.
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Anonymous wrote:I have been home sick for two weeks. My family has only done outdoor stuff and we just tested positive. Either you have good natural immunity or you are pretending you never got it by not testing. To who ever gave this to us, you are a horrible person.


Somebody in your family has some splainin to do.


No, this variant is just that contagious. I always wear a mask indoors. Always. And I only wear ASTM level 3 certified surgical masks that have saved me countless times as a teacher with very close exposure to positive kids. This variant got me, and I’m pretty sick right now with a fever and every other symptom despite 3 vaccines and prior infection with the January Omicron.


I have not left my house in a few weeks. Family is really just outdoors except a few very quick in and out stores. I was shocked when my spouse said they were positive and then I tested positive as I’ve barely even left my bed. Extremely contagious as we are as careful as they come.


Your DH has some secrets. A few quickies, for sure.


He got it with a hooker for sure

Maybe but not sure when he’d have the opportunity given he’s mostly home or with the kids.
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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.


How pompous can you get.


My favorite is that most of the people I know with this selfish, pompous attitude claim to be “Christian.” Yeah, that attitude is deeeeeefinitely what Jesus would do.


I am not christian, but i side with PP. You all need to move on with your lives.


If I moved on with my life and followed CDC guidelines, then I would have left my house on day 6 or 7 and infected people with a still active virus. I will not leave my house until I’m negative because it just wouldn’t be right.


What makes you so sure you were contagious? The CDC has said that a positive rapid test does not mean you're contagious. And even if there is still some live virus, that doesn't mean you're still shedding transmissible virus at significant levels. We know people are generally less contagious further along.


I saw they believe with BA5 you are contagious up to 8 days now.


Did you read anything about how long this BA.5 thing is supposed to last?
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