Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

Anonymous
If he would have been the type to commit suicide, he would have done so after killing her.

The parents don't look that sad, know he is probably out there with burner phones and cash they have given him. Probably changed his appearance and is camping somewhere til things cool down, and then will get a warehouse or construction job somewhere.

I lived in GA when Eric Rudolph was in hiding. It's easy to find a vacation house or empty house somewhere and hang out for a while if he gets tired of living in the woods or runs out of food.
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Anonymous wrote:I think Brian killed himself. I think he drove back home to say goodbye to his family, then left to die alone in the woods somewhere. I wouldn't be at all surprised if his parents were fully aware of this plan.


Possible, but I would think a vlogger like him would have scheduled a text to his parents saying goodbye. And he would've been found near his car, at least a piece of clothing, something. His parents don't seem concerned he is dead at all. His father just went pretend searching for him. He went to great lengths to hide Gabbys cell, apple watch. If he is dead, I think it's by accident at this point.


Yeah, agreed. I think of it this way - like Dog said, he likely called the parents right after it happened and they told him to drive home ASAP and lawyered up faster than the police could get any statement from him. They apparently obtained burner phones, and clearly there is money available that allowed for the flight home earlier in August, the mini camping excursion, new camper, etc…


Sorry but I have no faith in anything “Dog” says. He’s been wrong repeatedly and is so obviously a publicity whore.


But why not leave or ditch the van and fly home unless the parents directed him to drive back and/or bring it back?
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Anonymous wrote:If he would have been the type to commit suicide, he would have done so after killing her.

The parents don't look that sad, know he is probably out there with burner phones and cash they have given him. Probably changed his appearance and is camping somewhere til things cool down, and then will get a warehouse or construction job somewhere.

I lived in GA when Eric Rudolph was in hiding. It's easy to find a vacation house or empty house somewhere and hang out for a while if he gets tired of living in the woods or runs out of food.


Maybe he’s still alive, but I disagree with your “suicide type” statement. It’s actually pretty offensive. Besides, any combination of factors could have gone into him not killing himself right away. Suicide is frequently a spur of the moment decision, and he may have not been inclined to do it until the story hit the media, or her parents started threatening, etc. and he finally accepted that he wasn’t going to get away with it. There is no reason to think that just because he didn’t kill himself immediately he would never do it.
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Anonymous wrote:Former prosecutor here. I was not convinced BL was guilty of 1st degree until the cause of death came in as Strangulation. That is personal, premeditated, and usually signals murder by a loved one. Crime of passion. This mode of death is damning.


Interesting. Do you think (if still alive and arrested) he would try to say it was rough sex gone wrong as his defense?


He could try but all the evidence adds up to murder. The prior fights, the fraudulent use of her bank card after death, and strangulation . . . You have to look in your victim’s eyes when you do that, it is yeast and you can gauge how far you are from killing them.
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I meant it’s not easy . . . Came out as yeast,
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think Brian killed himself. I think he drove back home to say goodbye to his family, then left to die alone in the woods somewhere. I wouldn't be at all surprised if his parents were fully aware of this plan.


If that’s true, why would the parents continue with a charade? Wouldn’t they just tell the police instead of letting them search a swamp for weeks?
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Anonymous wrote:I think Brian killed himself. I think he drove back home to say goodbye to his family, then left to die alone in the woods somewhere. I wouldn't be at all surprised if his parents were fully aware of this plan.


His parents are awfully chill and chipper for this to be the case, unless in some unlikely event, two random juice business owners are secretly Academy Award level actors.
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Anonymous wrote:Former prosecutor here. I was not convinced BL was guilty of 1st degree until the cause of death came in as Strangulation. That is personal, premeditated, and usually signals murder by a loved one. Crime of passion. This mode of death is damning.


Interesting. Do you think (if still alive and arrested) he would try to say it was rough sex gone wrong as his defense?


He could try but all the evidence adds up to murder. The prior fights, the fraudulent use of her bank card after death, and strangulation . . . You have to look in your victim’s eyes when you do that, it is yeast and you can gauge how far you are from killing them.


That’s not true at all. If you break the windpipe from an aggressive grab to the neck, a second long bad decision could lead to death. Now, you can almost get that person help in time to save them...but then ya gotta admit you messed up and grabbed them like that... someone who realizes this could very likely panic and run away leaving the person to die an excruciatingly slow and painful death alone. I hope more than anything that is not what happened, but you can see how that is possible
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Anonymous wrote:I think Brian killed himself. I think he drove back home to say goodbye to his family, then left to die alone in the woods somewhere. I wouldn't be at all surprised if his parents were fully aware of this plan.


Possible, but I would think a vlogger like him would have scheduled a text to his parents saying goodbye. And he would've been found near his car, at least a piece of clothing, something. His parents don't seem concerned he is dead at all. His father just went pretend searching for him. He went to great lengths to hide Gabbys cell, apple watch. If he is dead, I think it's by accident at this point.


Yeah, agreed. I think of it this way - like Dog said, he likely called the parents right after it happened and they told him to drive home ASAP and lawyered up faster than the police could get any statement from him. They apparently obtained burner phones, and clearly there is money available that allowed for the flight home earlier in August, the mini camping excursion, new camper, etc…


Sorry but I have no faith in anything “Dog” says. He’s been wrong repeatedly and is so obviously a publicity whore.


But why not leave or ditch the van and fly home unless the parents directed him to drive back and/or bring it back?


That’s not what happened here. Here is what has me very confused. I thought she was killed right after the restaurant fight with the hostess in Jackson Hole. However, there has been a lot of analysis done on that video of the van on the side of road from that vlogger. That video is from a couple or few hours after the restaurant incident. If you watch the slowed down versions, It is 100% unquestionable that someone jumped into the back of the van and closed the door when they heard the vlogger’s vehicle approaching. At first I thought well, duh, it’s Brian hiding with the dead body. BUT, when you look at the slowed down video, you see both of Gabby’s sandals side by side right outside the back of the van like she stepped out of them. AND you see right on top of a tree stump next to the van, a book with Gabby’s phone right on top of it. This was around the time when Gabby’s mom got the text about her grandfather “Stan.” Every sign points to Gabby having been alive and hanging out right next to the van. And there was no sign of Brian. Sure, he could of been in the back with her, but there is no indication he was. And a couple of days later, you have him hitchhiking and getting rides from two different people miles away looking to get back towards the van area. At the very least, the idea that he called the parents right after then left is not at all true. She died the same day of that Jackson Hole fight. The question is where was Brian. I think he did it, but there is a lot of information that can provide reasonable doubt.

Another very weird thing that is racking my brain is why there were hiking boots next to her body. Were they her boots? If so, why were they off? She had the sandals on near the van so did she put the boots on to go wander that area? Were they Men’s boots? The boots are such an odd fact here
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Anonymous wrote:I think Brian killed himself. I think he drove back home to say goodbye to his family, then left to die alone in the woods somewhere. I wouldn't be at all surprised if his parents were fully aware of this plan.


His parents are awfully chill and chipper for this to be the case, unless in some unlikely event, two random juice business owners are secretly Academy Award level actors.


They don’t seem chill and chipper in the pix I’ve seen. They look sad and worried.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Brian killed himself. I think he drove back home to say goodbye to his family, then left to die alone in the woods somewhere. I wouldn't be at all surprised if his parents were fully aware of this plan.


His parents are awfully chill and chipper for this to be the case, unless in some unlikely event, two random juice business owners are secretly Academy Award level actors.


They don’t seem chill and chipper in the pix I’ve seen. They look sad and worried.


About as sad and worried if their dog had died. They are making no efforts to find their son and you know it.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Brian killed himself. I think he drove back home to say goodbye to his family, then left to die alone in the woods somewhere. I wouldn't be at all surprised if his parents were fully aware of this plan.


His parents are awfully chill and chipper for this to be the case, unless in some unlikely event, two random juice business owners are secretly Academy Award level actors.


They don’t seem chill and chipper in the pix I’ve seen. They look sad and worried.


About as sad and worried if their dog had died. They are making no efforts to find their son and you know it.


I was responding to a post about how they looked, not sure why so hostile.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Brian killed himself. I think he drove back home to say goodbye to his family, then left to die alone in the woods somewhere. I wouldn't be at all surprised if his parents were fully aware of this plan.


His parents are awfully chill and chipper for this to be the case, unless in some unlikely event, two random juice business owners are secretly Academy Award level actors.


They don’t seem chill and chipper in the pix I’ve seen. They look sad and worried.


You must have missed the photos of dad laughing with the searching detective like they were old frat buddies.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think Brian killed himself. I think he drove back home to say goodbye to his family, then left to die alone in the woods somewhere. I wouldn't be at all surprised if his parents were fully aware of this plan.


Possible, but I would think a vlogger like him would have scheduled a text to his parents saying goodbye. And he would've been found near his car, at least a piece of clothing, something. His parents don't seem concerned he is dead at all. His father just went pretend searching for him. He went to great lengths to hide Gabbys cell, apple watch. If he is dead, I think it's by accident at this point.


Yeah, agreed. I think of it this way - like Dog said, he likely called the parents right after it happened and they told him to drive home ASAP and lawyered up faster than the police could get any statement from him. They apparently obtained burner phones, and clearly there is money available that allowed for the flight home earlier in August, the mini camping excursion, new camper, etc…


Sorry but I have no faith in anything “Dog” says. He’s been wrong repeatedly and is so obviously a publicity whore.


But why not leave or ditch the van and fly home unless the parents directed him to drive back and/or bring it back?


That’s not what happened here. Here is what has me very confused. I thought she was killed right after the restaurant fight with the hostess in Jackson Hole. However, there has been a lot of analysis done on that video of the van on the side of road from that vlogger. That video is from a couple or few hours after the restaurant incident. If you watch the slowed down versions, It is 100% unquestionable that someone jumped into the back of the van and closed the door when they heard the vlogger’s vehicle approaching. At first I thought well, duh, it’s Brian hiding with the dead body. BUT, when you look at the slowed down video, you see both of Gabby’s sandals side by side right outside the back of the van like she stepped out of them. AND you see right on top of a tree stump next to the van, a book with Gabby’s phone right on top of it. This was around the time when Gabby’s mom got the text about her grandfather “Stan.” Every sign points to Gabby having been alive and hanging out right next to the van. And there was no sign of Brian. Sure, he could of been in the back with her, but there is no indication he was. And a couple of days later, you have him hitchhiking and getting rides from two different people miles away looking to get back towards the van area. At the very least, the idea that he called the parents right after then left is not at all true. She died the same day of that Jackson Hole fight. The question is where was Brian. I think he did it, but there is a lot of information that can provide reasonable doubt.

Another very weird thing that is racking my brain is why there were hiking boots next to her body. Were they her boots? If so, why were they off? She had the sandals on near the van so did she put the boots on to go wander that area? Were they Men’s boots? The boots are such an odd fact here


So much of this is a real reach.
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