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YOU DO IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM FOR THESE STUDENTS WAS CLOSED BY PATRICIA O'NEILL AND JILL ORTMAN-FOUSE THE PROGRESSIVES ALTERNATIVE PROGRAMS WAS NOT ONE PLACE. THERE WERE A SERIES OF PROGRAMS FOR DIFFERENT ISSUES. CRIMINALS, DROP OUTS, ED ISSUES. THOSE ARE NOT ALL THE SAME PROGRAM. PATRICIA O'NEILL AND JILL ORTMAN-FOUSE CLOSED THOSE OTHER PROGRAMS AND HAVE NOT OPENED THEM. INSTEAD THOSE PROGRESSIVES WANT ALL STUDENTS EDUCATED IN THE SAME BUILDING. CRIMINALS NOW GO TO COURT, GET SENTENCED AND RETURN TO MCPS CLASSROOMS AFTER RELEASE. WAKE UP PARENTS. |
no - wrong school. that is not the altermative program that was closed by patricia o'neill and jill ortman-fouse |
The statement supporting the principal violating the law was from the union protecting their member. |
Nope, not even close |
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I read through the first 10 pages or so and was shocked by how quickly the conversation turned to "maybe it was consensual".
Maybe someone already mentioned this (I didn't read through every page) but the victim is 14 years old. The age of consent in MD is 16, so no such thing as consensual sex. I know there are exceptions to the law (close in age, within 4 years of each other's age, etc.) but really, this is a 14 year old girl. Please, let's not blame a 14 year old girl who was brought into a boys bathroom by two older boys/men. How terrifying for her or any female of any age. |
This is true. Every person in the school system is either required to call CPS or the police - depending up the type of incident. Taking the child and keeping her safe is a responsibility. But they can't question the child. That's the police's job. However, it can be hard NOT to question b/c you're worried about the girl and the safety of the other kids. Do you call for a lockdown, for example? And that would be an acceptable move IMO. But questioning a child in distress can cause confusion. |
depending upon - meant to say
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omg - the screaming Look, genius. I WAS at Alternative Programs a few years ago. Weast shut down some programs to save money, but the county still has ED clusters in certain schools - Churchill and Paint Branch, for example, both have the bridge program. Perhaps there aren't enough. But Twain wasn't for criminals. It was for kids with emotional issues, and I had friends who worked there who said it was a well-oiled machine that helped a lot of kids. Alt Programs, however, was redesigned to absorb kids who aren't coded - so very few IEPs for learning issues or emotional issues. That isn't to say they don't get kids who aren't coded. They do - but only b/c schools are too fed up to deal with certain behaviors of repeat offenders. So they do what they can to get them into Alt. or to expel them. Blame MCPS. I'm not saying it's angelic by any stretch of the imagination. However, what you should blame and fight is the Code of Conduct that the state created in a few years ago. I believe you can blame Lillian Lowery for that. She's no longer with us, thankfully, but she did leave her legacy with those rules which prevent schools from taking ANY action to protect good kids and to keep kids safe. So please stop screaming and stop talking about areas in which you have NO direct experience. |
WEAST DID NOT SHUT DOWN ALTERNATIVE PROGRAMS TO SAVE MONEY. HE DID IT TO CLOSE THE ACHIEVEMENT GAP BY SPREADING OUT CRIMINALS ACROSS ALL PUBLIC SCHOOLS. IT WAS DONE TO IMPACT THE DATA, NOT THE BUDGET. NOW STUDENTS WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS ARE SIMPLY RELOCATED TO A DIFFERENT PUBLIC SCHOOL. THEY DO NOT EVEN NECESSARILY GO TO ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING ALTERNATIVE PROGRAMS FOR ED ISSUES. THE ALTERNATIVE PROGRAMS THAT ARE NEEDED ARE NOT JUST FOR ED ISSUES. WEAST ALSO SHUT DOWN THE ALTERNATIVE HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAMS THAT WERE AVAILABLE IN EVENINGS. THESE WERE ALSO PLACES WHERE CONVICTED CRIMINALS COULD STILL GET AN EDUCATION. IT IS TIME FOR MCPS PARENTS TO GET THE FACTS AND START SCREAMING. THE SAFETY OF ALL PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS SHOULD BE #1 PRIORITY. |
The difference is she would not have been raped on that day at that time. How callous of you. If you were her, would you think, "What difference would it make?" |
OK I've never posted this, but I will now. You need to be heavily medicated - or you need to step away from the computer. You clearly AREN'T reading closely. |
There really should be no delay. A girl tells you she's been raped, you call the police. WTF. Do you want the principal going in to look for evidence? Tampering a crime scene? Maybe the custodian can go in and clean up a little to? Call the cops immediately. Let MCPD decide what really happened. |
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I don't agree with the screaming poster but I do agree that safety needs to be the #1 priority. This and those little girls that were sexually abused by the bus driver in Silver Spring. WTF?
What kind of an environment are we subjecting our kids to? Frightening. |
Principals have no due diligence for a crime - that's for the police. They shouldn't go in there and touch anything or get distracted and whoops there's bunches of kids in there. |
Yeah - how about for a kid with a gun. Is the principal investigating or are they calling the police and a swat team? This is no different. |