Gun store opening next door to Franklin Sherman Elementary in Mclean

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked that even those who are pro-gun can't see how it is ridiculous to have a gun store NEXT DOOR to a school with 4-12 year olds. Let me pose this question, if an abortion clinic opened next to a Catholic Church, would you be okay with that? I mean, abortions are legal and all, so why not let them happen 23 feet from where you worship?

It matters not to me as an atheist where an abortion clinic is located. You do not have the right not to be offended. Imposing your religious views on others is not the foundation that this country was built on - it's exactly the opposite.

I also don't see anything ridiculous about putting a gun store next to a school, or a day care for that matter. You'll have to explain why you find this ridiculous and it needs to be reasoned justifications, and not just fits of exasperation.

Anonymous wrote:
It's about knowing the community, respecting social norms and understanding there is an appropriate place for gun shops. Think about it. No one is denying you your guns, we're just asking you to not buy them 23 feet from our 4 year olds.

People buy cigarettes from the 7-eleven that's next to that school. Unlike guns, cigarettes do not have a single benefit that doesn't also come along with serious health side effects. Where's your outrage at the sale of cigarettes near a school? Where is your outrage at near-by fast food restaurants. Where is your outrage that people send their kids to Tae Kwon Do and other martial arts class where they are trained to fight - I mean there are plenty of other ways for a young person to engage in physical activities without involving violence. Am I to believe that the social norms of McLean is about cigarette smoking, unhealthy fast foods, and children being trained for, what, the hunger games?

Guns are different. They can be used to kill many people instantly. Most of the murdered are unarmed and innocent. Most of these people do not know the gunman, they are just victims of the gunman's emotional and mental breakdown. And most of them are obtained legally through a system with little regulation and oversight.

While cigarettes and fast food kills over a period of time, both kill the person who chooses to consume them. (Yes, second-hand smoke exists, but that is over a long period of time.)

Really, do I need to spell this out? Do all the pro-gun folks don't understand the nuance?

[Anonymous]

Auto correct... meant to ask:

Do all the pro-guns folks NOT understand this nuance?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Franklin Sherman is one of the smaller schools in the county. The School Board could acquire the property by eminent domain and build an addition at Franklin Sherman for AAP students or special-ed programs.

The plan is ESOL for the day labor camp. We're going to bake the cookies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm pro-choice.

Want a gun? OK, choose to buy one.

Don't want one? OK, choose not to buy one.

Don't want US citizens to buy one? Choose to move to a country that doesn't have a bill of rights.

Sounds good to me. What's not to like?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Auto correct... meant to ask:

Do all the pro-guns folks NOT understand this nuance?

No, it's Vicky.

[Anonymous]

She sounds like the town nuisance. Doesn't she have anything to do?

[Anonymous]

Not Vicky, just one of the many many other McLean parents who do not want this store here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not Vicky, just one of the many many other McLean parents who do not want this store here.

Was it you, 7:11? No. You don't know which posts are Victoria's, do you?

[Anonymous]

Have you noticed that when the pro-gun people don't have an answer to the many questions and issues that arise, they just start putting down "Vicky"? Good deflection, but we're all on to you. Come up with an actual reason why it's okay. Do you really think the Founding Fathers wrote the second amendment so that people could gain access to guns and shoot innocent school children or gun down police officers in their cars? We are not in the 18th century anymore. The world has changed. Just because you want to shoot your guns doesn't change the fact that things are different then when the U.S. were 13 colonies.

I have a feeling that the next post will be, "Is that you, Vicky." It's not and I'm out of here.

[Anonymous]

I actually know Vicky and she's a very nice person, FYI.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I actually know Vicky and she's a very nice person, FYI.

She could be a nasty, mean person and I'd still support her petition. It's not about her as a person, but instead the absurdity of opening a gun store next to a school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually know Vicky and she's a very nice person, FYI.

She could be a nasty, mean person and I'd still support her petition. It's not about her as a person, but instead the absurdity of opening a gun store next to a school.

+1. But glad she is nice!

[Anonymous]

She is nice as long as you don't cross her.

[Anonymous]

I am one of the pro-gun PP here, and some of you supporters out there need to dial it down a few notches. This is the reason why while I support the second amendment and am a gun owner, I did not renew my membership to the NRA. While the NRA serves as an important organization to help give a common well organized voice to gun owners, some of the rhetoric are just too over the top. It seems every email I get is alarmist to the extreme, telling me that I am being "ATTACKED". I understand that we need to speak up against those who have organized to challenge the rights of gun owners, but lets do it with composure and in a fashion that doesn't give the other side any reason to label us as crazies.

Vicky, whatever drove her to start this petition, is not arguing that we repeal the second amendment, so why even bring this into the conversation? I also really don't care what her background is, where she lives, how much money she has. All of this is beside the point and dredging this up will simply be used as justification by the people on her side of the argument to disregard the substance of the arguments from our side. Her complaint is that a gun shop should not be near a School or be in McLean at all. That is the entirety of her complaint. Deal with that and that's all you need to do. There is no reason why we need to start waving the constitution around because that's not the issue here. Narrow our scope of exchange and we'll be far more productive in communicating and educating the concerned residents of McLean.

It's so frustrating, like coaching a youth soccer team and having to tell kids not to make rude gestures to the other team. We are grown ass adults, have some civility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am one of the pro-gun PP here, and some of you supporters out there need to dial it down a few notches. This is the reason why while I support the second amendment and am a gun owner, I did not renew my membership to the NRA. While the NRA serves as an important organization to help give a common well organized voice to gun owners, some of the rhetoric are just too over the top. It seems every email I get is alarmist to the extreme, telling me that I am being "ATTACKED". I understand that we need to speak up against those who have organized to challenge the rights of gun owners, but lets do it with composure and in a fashion that doesn't give the other side any reason to label us as crazies.

Vicky, whatever drove her to start this petition, is not arguing that we repeal the second amendment, so why even bring this into the conversation? I also really don't care what her background is, where she lives, how much money she has. All of this is beside the point and dredging this up will simply be used as justification by the people on her side of the argument to disregard the substance of the arguments from our side. Her complaint is that a gun shop should not be near a School or be in McLean at all. That is the entirety of her complaint. Deal with that and that's all you need to do. There is no reason why we need to start waving the constitution around because that's not the issue here. Narrow our scope of exchange and we'll be far more productive in communicating and educating the concerned residents of McLean.

It's so frustrating, like coaching a youth soccer team and having to tell kids not to make rude gestures to the other team. We are grown ass adults, have some civility.

You are the first reasonable pro-gun person on this thread. Quite frankly, if more were like you, the thought of having my community members with guns wouldn't scare me nearly as much as it does now.