Harry and Meghan’s Christmas card

[Anonymous]

He was disowned by his weird, very rich family. He’s trying to stay relevant by releasing these weird kid/non kid photos to try to stay relevant so he doesn’t go completely broke. The photo is weirdly photoshopped. The dress choice of his wife is odd and attention stealing.

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Sort of like the Queen of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland. Even the song fits.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry recently went on a ski trip with his friend and then they participated in a Snow Polo competition. He was introduced at the competition as Harry Wales. But Meghan was clear she is a Sussex so curious as to why they are using different names.

Harry Wales and Meghan Sussex

He's been Harry Wales since childhood because his dad was Prince of Wales then. He used that last name at school and in the military. He got the Sussex title as a wedding gift. So his wife is Duchess of Sussex. She is not a Princess of Wales OR THE Princess of Wales. I guess she was never made a Princess. Technically, I think Kate was not until William became THE Prince of Wales. There was much remark over how William put "princess of the UK" as Kate's occupation on (George's?) birth certificate. At that point she could have gone by Kate Cambridge. And was a royal duchess. At that time, she could also have been called Princess William.

Actually, Meghan is a princess. She is Princess Henry of Wales.

Meghan is not a princess of wales.

I thought they were all over and done with the titles. Not a Princess. I think her daughter is though. But again thought they wanted no titles?

No - they want the titles and the security but not to do any of the royal 'work'.

The Queen called Will and Kate “Won’t and Can’t”.

They all seem to be over the “work” part, whatever that was.

They are out doing Royal things every week and living by Royal rules and all of that. Fine. So they can have the titles and pomp and represent the country.

Meghan and Harry aren't doing any of the Royal things or living by Royal rules. Yet they want the royal titles and apparently are upset they don't have the security. I think people would have more respect for them, or at least the respect they seem to want, if they would stop trying to be royal Americans, a la Countess Luann, and just be normal people.

Harry’s titles (and his wife’s by marriage) are his birthright. That’s kind of the whole point of the monarchy, that certain people in one specific family are the head of a nation.

There’s no halfway about it.

Either you accept the premise that the members of a certain family deserve titles by birth or you don’t believe in a monarchy.

Pick a lane.

Harry and Meghan did pick a lane. They moved across the ocean to another country and trashed the royal family. Buh bye monarchy.

Do you not understand what monarchy is? He doesn’t stop being a prince because he moved.

It’s his birthright. Just like being the future king is William’s.

Pick a lane. Either you support the idea that one family is so special they should have taxpayer funded estates and titles and money or you don’t. It’s silly to pretend otherwise.

The British monarchy is headed in the same direction at other European monarchs - no power, little publicity, no one really cares, and outside their own country few would even recognize them. These people are really useless to society

Well that’s true. European royalty . . .

Igor and Grichka Bogdanoff are European royalty?

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Anonymous wrote:Harry recently went on a ski trip with his friend and then they participated in a Snow Polo competition. He was introduced at the competition as Harry Wales. But Meghan was clear she is a Sussex so curious as to why they are using different names.

Harry Wales and Meghan Sussex

He's been Harry Wales since childhood because his dad was Prince of Wales then. He used that last name at school and in the military. He got the Sussex title as a wedding gift. So his wife is Duchess of Sussex. She is not a Princess of Wales OR THE Princess of Wales. I guess she was never made a Princess. Technically, I think Kate was not until William became THE Prince of Wales. There was much remark over how William put "princess of the UK" as Kate's occupation on (George's?) birth certificate. At that point she could have gone by Kate Cambridge. And was a royal duchess. At that time, she could also have been called Princess William.

Actually, Meghan is a princess. She is Princess Henry of Wales.

Meghan is not a princess of wales.

I thought they were all over and done with the titles. Not a Princess. I think her daughter is though. But again thought they wanted no titles?

No - they want the titles and the security but not to do any of the royal 'work'.

The Queen called Will and Kate “Won’t and Can’t”.

They all seem to be over the “work” part, whatever that was.

They are out doing Royal things every week and living by Royal rules and all of that. Fine. So they can have the titles and pomp and represent the country.

Meghan and Harry aren't doing any of the Royal things or living by Royal rules. Yet they want the royal titles and apparently are upset they don't have the security. I think people would have more respect for them, or at least the respect they seem to want, if they would stop trying to be royal Americans, a la Countess Luann, and just be normal people.

Harry’s titles (and his wife’s by marriage) are his birthright. That’s kind of the whole point of the monarchy, that certain people in one specific family are the head of a nation.

There’s no halfway about it.

Either you accept the premise that the members of a certain family deserve titles by birth or you don’t believe in a monarchy.

Pick a lane.

Harry and Meghan did pick a lane. They moved across the ocean to another country and trashed the royal family. Buh bye monarchy.

Do you not understand what monarchy is? He doesn’t stop being a prince because he moved.

It’s his birthright. Just like being the future king is William’s.

Pick a lane. Either you support the idea that one family is so special they should have taxpayer funded estates and titles and money or you don’t. It’s silly to pretend otherwise.

He has an uncle that used to be a prince and now isn't. So birthright means you do get it at birth, but it doesn't mean it stays with you no matter what you do.

True. But for now, Harry and William both remain princes by birthright.

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There is also a weird photoshop job done on Archie's arms / hands. If you zoom in, the left arm is facing the wrong direction and the arms aren't actually holding Harry's back.

And there is some kind of egg shaped change in colour in Meghan's hair that is hanging down.

Combined with all the photoshop issues with Harry's head and the leaves above it, this seems like an amateur photoshop job.

Do professional photographers not get upset when people butcher their photos with poor photoshop?

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Anonymous wrote:Harry recently went on a ski trip with his friend and then they participated in a Snow Polo competition. He was introduced at the competition as Harry Wales. But Meghan was clear she is a Sussex so curious as to why they are using different names.

Harry Wales and Meghan Sussex

He's been Harry Wales since childhood because his dad was Prince of Wales then. He used that last name at school and in the military. He got the Sussex title as a wedding gift. So his wife is Duchess of Sussex. She is not a Princess of Wales OR THE Princess of Wales. I guess she was never made a Princess. Technically, I think Kate was not until William became THE Prince of Wales. There was much remark over how William put "princess of the UK" as Kate's occupation on (George's?) birth certificate. At that point she could have gone by Kate Cambridge. And was a royal duchess. At that time, she could also have been called Princess William.

Actually, Meghan is a princess. She is Princess Henry of Wales.

Meghan is not a princess of wales.

I thought they were all over and done with the titles. Not a Princess. I think her daughter is though. But again thought they wanted no titles?

No - they want the titles and the security but not to do any of the royal 'work'.

The Queen called Will and Kate “Won’t and Can’t”.

They all seem to be over the “work” part, whatever that was.

They are out doing Royal things every week and living by Royal rules and all of that. Fine. So they can have the titles and pomp and represent the country.

Meghan and Harry aren't doing any of the Royal things or living by Royal rules. Yet they want the royal titles and apparently are upset they don't have the security. I think people would have more respect for them, or at least the respect they seem to want, if they would stop trying to be royal Americans, a la Countess Luann, and just be normal people.

Harry’s titles (and his wife’s by marriage) are his birthright. That’s kind of the whole point of the monarchy, that certain people in one specific family are the head of a nation.

There’s no halfway about it.

Either you accept the premise that the members of a certain family deserve titles by birth or you don’t believe in a monarchy.

Pick a lane.

Harry and Meghan did pick a lane. They moved across the ocean to another country and trashed the royal family. Buh bye monarchy.

Do you not understand what monarchy is? He doesn’t stop being a prince because he moved.

It’s his birthright. Just like being the future king is William’s.

Pick a lane. Either you support the idea that one family is so special they should have taxpayer funded estates and titles and money or you don’t. It’s silly to pretend otherwise.

He has an uncle that used to be a prince and now isn't. So birthright means you do get it at birth, but it doesn't mean it stays with you no matter what you do.

True. But for now, Harry and William both remain princes by birthright.

It's just splitting hairs at this point. There no power, money, or special influence that comes from the birthright for anyone except the King or next in line. Everyone else is persona non grata. No need for backups to the backup.

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Heirs to the throne matter if the King / Queen is actually ruling the country.

The British monarchy is symbolic. They are not running Britain. They are not the government or the decision makers.

Titles are pretty meaningless.

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Anonymous wrote:Heirs to the throne matter if the King / Queen is actually ruling the country.

The British monarchy is symbolic. They are not running Britain. They are not the government or the decision makers.

Titles are pretty meaningless.

Heirs matter only to the extent there is something to inherit. 2nd born and on down the line are SOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Heirs to the throne matter if the King / Queen is actually ruling the country.

The British monarchy is symbolic. They are not running Britain. They are not the government or the decision makers.

Titles are pretty meaningless.

Heirs matter only to the extent there is something to inherit. 2nd born and on down the line are SOL.

They are only SOL if they act terrible and entitled. Look at Andrew vs. Anne and Edward who are doing just fine and somehow able to manage living on a few million dollar allowance per year.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry recently went on a ski trip with his friend and then they participated in a Snow Polo competition. He was introduced at the competition as Harry Wales. But Meghan was clear she is a Sussex so curious as to why they are using different names.

Harry Wales and Meghan Sussex

He's been Harry Wales since childhood because his dad was Prince of Wales then. He used that last name at school and in the military. He got the Sussex title as a wedding gift. So his wife is Duchess of Sussex. She is not a Princess of Wales OR THE Princess of Wales. I guess she was never made a Princess. Technically, I think Kate was not until William became THE Prince of Wales. There was much remark over how William put "princess of the UK" as Kate's occupation on (George's?) birth certificate. At that point she could have gone by Kate Cambridge. And was a royal duchess. At that time, she could also have been called Princess William.

Actually, Meghan is a princess. She is Princess Henry of Wales.

Meghan is not a princess of wales.

I thought they were all over and done with the titles. Not a Princess. I think her daughter is though. But again thought they wanted no titles?

No - they want the titles and the security but not to do any of the royal 'work'.

The Queen called Will and Kate “Won’t and Can’t”.

They all seem to be over the “work” part, whatever that was.

They are out doing Royal things every week and living by Royal rules and all of that. Fine. So they can have the titles and pomp and represent the country.

Meghan and Harry aren't doing any of the Royal things or living by Royal rules. Yet they want the royal titles and apparently are upset they don't have the security. I think people would have more respect for them, or at least the respect they seem to want, if they would stop trying to be royal Americans, a la Countess Luann, and just be normal people.

Harry’s titles (and his wife’s by marriage) are his birthright. That’s kind of the whole point of the monarchy, that certain people in one specific family are the head of a nation.

There’s no halfway about it.

Either you accept the premise that the members of a certain family deserve titles by birth or you don’t believe in a monarchy.

Pick a lane.

Harry and Meghan did pick a lane. They moved across the ocean to another country and trashed the royal family. Buh bye monarchy.

Do you not understand what monarchy is? He doesn’t stop being a prince because he moved.

It’s his birthright. Just like being the future king is William’s.

Pick a lane. Either you support the idea that one family is so special they should have taxpayer funded estates and titles and money or you don’t. It’s silly to pretend otherwise.

He has an uncle that used to be a prince and now isn't. So birthright means you do get it at birth, but it doesn't mean it stays with you no matter what you do.

True. But for now, Harry and William both remain princes by birthright.

Now that there are three kids who are ahead of him in succession Harry is irrelevant. He isn’t even the spare anymore. They don’t need him to be a prince.

In 20 years he will move further down the line as the three kids start having kids. His kids won’t have titles and will need to make their own way in the world. Princess Anne wisely decided not to give her children titles because she knew they would need to support themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Heirs to the throne matter if the King / Queen is actually ruling the country.

The British monarchy is symbolic. They are not running Britain. They are not the government or the decision makers.

Titles are pretty meaningless.

Heirs matter only to the extent there is something to inherit. 2nd born and on down the line are SOL.

They are only SOL if they act terrible and entitled. Look at Andrew vs. Anne and Edward who are doing just fine and somehow able to manage living on a few million dollar allowance per year.

You completely misunderstand. Charles inherits it all. The others are hoping he'll extend their leases on properties they don't own. It's an inherently unfair system.

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Anonymous wrote:Heirs to the throne matter if the King / Queen is actually ruling the country.

The British monarchy is symbolic. They are not running Britain. They are not the government or the decision makers.

Titles are pretty meaningless.

Heirs matter only to the extent there is something to inherit. 2nd born and on down the line are SOL.

They are only SOL if they act terrible and entitled. Look at Andrew vs. Anne and Edward who are doing just fine and somehow able to manage living on a few million dollar allowance per year.

You completely misunderstand. Charles inherits it all. The others are hoping he'll extend their leases on properties they don't own. It's an inherently unfair system.

Life is unfair even for royals. Had Harry stayed in line he would’ve had frogmore, been leased a country estate in Norfolk, had security, help, kids private schools and a 2mm a year allowance in exchange for 60ish royal days of work…. Same as Edward and Anne.

I understand he felt the situation intolerable at the time, but I do wonder if he questions his decision given the current situation he is in 5 years out.

That being said, he isn’t abusive garbage like Andrew, so best of luck to him and I hope he makes it work on his own. I think he’s found it to be harder than he expected.

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Harry and Meghan are rich Californian socialites. There are many of them. I don't know why they don't just live that life. Their royal family connection is meaningless at this point. They have chosen to live the American life and are very wealthy. They are part of the multi million dollar Montecito neighborhood. Surely they get plenty of attention from their own social circle. I don't get why they need public attention. They should just go and live their rich lives. Stop with the exposes about the family, stop with the TV shows etc. Just go live the life of the mega rich.

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Anonymous wrote:Heirs to the throne matter if the King / Queen is actually ruling the country.

The British monarchy is symbolic. They are not running Britain. They are not the government or the decision makers.

Titles are pretty meaningless.

Heirs matter only to the extent there is something to inherit. 2nd born and on down the line are SOL.

+1 The reality of life ain't no fairytale, as much as some immature folks wish it were so.

They are only SOL if they act terrible and entitled. Look at Andrew vs. Anne and Edward who are doing just fine and somehow able to manage living on a few million dollar allowance per year.

You completely misunderstand. Charles inherits it all. The others are hoping he'll extend their leases on properties they don't own. It's an inherently unfair system.

Life is unfair even for royals. Had Harry stayed in line he would’ve had frogmore, been leased a country estate in Norfolk, had security, help, kids private schools and a 2mm a year allowance in exchange for 60ish royal days of work…. Same as Edward and Anne.

I understand he felt the situation intolerable at the time, but I do wonder if he questions his decision given the current situation he is in 5 years out.

That being said, he isn’t abusive garbage like Andrew, so best of luck to him and I hope he makes it work on his own. I think he’s found it to be harder than he expected.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry and Meghan are rich Californian socialites. There are many of them. I don't know why they don't just live that life. Their royal family connection is meaningless at this point. They have chosen to live the American life and are very wealthy. They are part of the multi million dollar Montecito neighborhood. Surely they get plenty of attention from their own social circle. I don't get why they need public attention. They should just go and live their rich lives. Stop with the exposes about the family, stop with the TV shows etc. Just go live the life of the mega rich.

Because they don't have a steady stream of income. They have some money now but not enough to just never work again. And the work they have been doing has been one flop after the next. It's not sustainable.