2022 Olympics

[Anonymous]

Greece should always host Summer. With global warming winter is going to become harder to facilitate and they should pick on place and stick with it like the PP stated.

How many of these countries are able to maintain or have a use for all the facilities they build after the games are done? Look at Brazil; the people are living in poverty yet the govt had enough to build these facilities that were never used after the games and now sit to waste away. What's the point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Greece should always host Summer. With global warming winter is going to become harder to facilitate and they should pick on place and stick with it like the PP stated.

How many of these countries are able to maintain or have a use for all the facilities they build after the games are done? Look at Brazil; the people are living in poverty yet the govt had enough to build these facilities that were never used after the games and now sit to waste away. What's the point?

Why do you care what another nation does? There is nothing you can do to stop other countries from hosting.
I assume you are STRONGLY against the upcoming Summer Olympiad in LA?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Greece should always host Summer. With global warming winter is going to become harder to facilitate and they should pick on place and stick with it like the PP stated.

How many of these countries are able to maintain or have a use for all the facilities they build after the games are done? Look at Brazil; the people are living in poverty yet the govt had enough to build these facilities that were never used after the games and now sit to waste away. What's the point?

Why do you care what another nation does? There is nothing you can do to stop other countries from hosting.
I assume you are STRONGLY against the upcoming Summer Olympiad in LA?

The LA Memorial Coliseum, which has been used for 2 Summer Olympics already, and will be used again in 2028, was used last weekend as a NASCAR track!

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Anonymous wrote:Norway, Japan, Austria, and Germany were disqualified from ski jumping for violating the dress code unique to China. In fact, their cloth were normal, and even the Japanese player was kicked out for her cloth of a difference of 2 cm, and their cloth were perfectly fine for multiple international competitions. Also in speed skating, a Hungarian and a Chinese athlete both pushed to the finish line, but only the Hungarian athlete got disqualified, and the Chinese athlete won the gold. Additionally, Canadian players have had a similar experience. The Chinese player threw the puck at one of the Canadian players while skating, and then pushed its body at the Canadian behind her. Funny thing is, only the Canadian players were disqualified, and the Chinese players won. Finally, the same thing happened to Korean players. Chinese players blocked and pushed, but eventually the Korean player won the gold, but in the end they got disqulified for ridiculous reasons, and China won again. What a farcical games. Of course authoritarian regimes like China consider it a d*ck measuring contest. There are also accusations that China is literally starving out athletes with terrible food, and also locking them down with dubious covid excuses so they can't do things like practice. Just a horrible S show sanctioned by the IOC.

Yep. Total sh-t show. China is starving athletes and locking them up for aymptomatic covid in rooms so small they can't exercise.

+100

Would've been better off to boycott the Olympics.

I'm hoping the silver lining will be that all these athletes and their respective countries calk out how sly and dubious Ch is and only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to world affairs.
Curious to see how much of an international backlash will result moving forward with global policy.

If documented Chinese genocide against Uighur people doesn’t get people upset, then some misconduct at the Olympics will?

Sadly, maybe.

--DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Greece should always host Summer. With global warming winter is going to become harder to facilitate and they should pick on place and stick with it like the PP stated.

How many of these countries are able to maintain or have a use for all the facilities they build after the games are done? Look at Brazil; the people are living in poverty yet the govt had enough to build these facilities that were never used after the games and now sit to waste away. What's the point?

Why do you care what another nation does? There is nothing you can do to stop other countries from hosting.
I assume you are STRONGLY against the upcoming Summer Olympiad in LA?

DP, but why? LA is exactly the kind of city that should host. They already have most of the infrastructure.

[Anonymous]

Eileen Gu is a pawn. Her mom influences all her decisions. My usband is convinced the mom is a spy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we choose a normal country like Denmark, Norway, France maybe for the next winter Olympics? Some place that actually appreciates the winter sports and would provide a lovely scenery and backdrop to the games, and would treat the athletes with respect? I remember as a kid watching Lillehammer and the beautiful villages they put together for those games. Canada did a beautiful job several years ago.
What do we get with China? A giant ski jump with huge nuclear smokestacks and cooling towers in the background.
Everything surrounding the ski slopes is brown and bare and ugly. There's no snow. No beautiful lakes. No wintery scenery. just awful. I feel bad for these athletes

If you want a country with excellent snow and awesome ski slopes for longer periods of time you need to go further north - Russia, Canada, United States (Alaska), Norway, Sweden, and Finland.

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Greece is poor.

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Anonymous wrote:I am cheering against this Eileen Gu chick so hard. Can’t believe they interviewed her on American TV.

I don't understand why American TV is giving her the time of day. She wanted to be a Chinese athlete, so treat her like the other Chinese athletes.

She also seems quite competitive in the event, so not sure why she had to go to China to make an Olympic team.

Because she's a story, duh. Pretty, successful, a medal favorite, future Stanford student, and a switch in citizenship - you bet she'll be on every screen.

Yeah.......I don't think I necessarily would go out of my way to represent China.

NP. But what if she feels more affinity for the PRC than the US? What if she believes more in their country? Not everything can or should be boiled down to the material. We see discussions all the time on here of people threatening to leave the US and very rarely are the primary concerns economic. I don’t think she’s right or wrong for turning her back on the US and the USOC. Maybe she believes in Communism or feels the future lies with Red China or the culture speaks to her. It’s not always about money, something the majority of the people on here can’t understand. I hope she puts in her best effort and is happy with her decision. If at some point she decides she wants a return to the red, white, and blue, I say come on home. We’re a country of second chances.

LOL Then she's an idiot. Especially since its clear she's money driven and racking up huge endorsements. You know what happens to Chinese celebrities and billionaires who make too much money and cross the CCP? They disappear. Hell even Peng Shuai, China's highest ranking tennis star, was sent to a black hole and she didn't even try to cheat them.

The problem is that you don't get a 'second chance' in China. You mess up, they cross you off. And she and other young stars like her are too sheltered from an American lifestyle which includes such rare things as Constitutional Rights to realize what they've walked into. The fact that Gu was on social media today defending/speaking out about Zhu Yi (who she probably feels a connection to) - says it all. A good Chinese celebrity knows to keep their mouth shut until they see which way the wind is blowing from the CCP.

Gu is a sell out and nothing but China's pawn. This is pretty clear by the fact that China had Peng Shuai attend the big air event and sit next to IOC president Thomas Bach. She will soon enough realize what she has lost by deciding to compete for China and be a part of their game. Everyone can be bought for a the right price, but nothing is free when it comes to China.

Totally agree. This picture of Peng Shuai being watched by the CCP as she APOLOGIZES for saying she was raped is just horrifying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Eileen Gu is a pawn. Her mom influences all her decisions. My usband is convinced the mom is a spy

It's entirely possible with the mom and the media shouldn't be so dumb.

I don't think Eileen Gu is a pawn. As has been pointed out, she's very smart and accomplished. You're telling me she can't pick up a newspaper and read about what's going on?

I f'ing guarantee you if she puts a toe out of line and the Chinese decide to detain her that the first call will be to the US Embassy. I don't begrudge her her win, but quaint as it is, I find it unpatriotic for her to be competing under the flag of our greatest global rival. Not a fan.

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Anonymous wrote:Eileen Gu is a pawn. Her mom influences all her decisions. My usband is convinced the mom is a spy

It's entirely possible with the mom and the media shouldn't be so dumb.

I don't think Eileen Gu is a pawn. As has been pointed out, she's very smart and accomplished. You're telling me she can't pick up a newspaper and read about what's going on?

I f'ing guarantee you if she puts a toe out of line and the Chinese decide to detain her that the first call will be to the US Embassy. I don't begrudge her her win, but quaint as it is, I find it unpatriotic for her to be competing under the flag of our greatest global rival. Not a fan.

She can’t call the embassy - she renounced her citizenship to play for China.

And like a typical 18-year-old she has no idea what she’s done. I think sobbing Zhu, who is no one’s favorite now, is very aware of her vulnerability. Gu? Not so much. The arrogance, while earned, is going to come up against a blank wall when she needs help at 24/25 and can’t escape.

[Anonymous]

In short, the USDOS response in 2026 when she’s trying to come back -

[Anonymous]

I am sorry because I don't know all about these politics beyond China being a terrible government that commits human rights abuses and should not be allowed to host the games.

However.

I am really enjoying the Olympics anyway, especially downhill skiing and biathlon. I loooooove biathlon, it's such a cool sport. I watched it with my daughter the other day and it was great for her to see all these amazing strong women competing, many of them much older than the average Olympian. The US olympian Deedra Irwin got the highest US finish in biathlon ever earlier this week, and she didn't even pick up the sport until she was 25.

The politics and money around the Olympics are always terrible but I always get sucked in anyway. I just find it amazing what these athletes can do.

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Anonymous wrote:Eileen Gu is a pawn. Her mom influences all her decisions. My usband is convinced the mom is a spy

It's entirely possible with the mom and the media shouldn't be so dumb.

I don't think Eileen Gu is a pawn. As has been pointed out, she's very smart and accomplished. You're telling me she can't pick up a newspaper and read about what's going on?

I f'ing guarantee you if she puts a toe out of line and the Chinese decide to detain her that the first call will be to the US Embassy. I don't begrudge her her win, but quaint as it is, I find it unpatriotic for her to be competing under the flag of our greatest global rival. Not a fan.

She can’t call the embassy - she renounced her citizenship to play for China.

And like a typical 18-year-old she has no idea what she’s done. I think sobbing Zhu, who is no one’s favorite now, is very aware of her vulnerability. Gu? Not so much. The arrogance, while earned, is going to come up against a blank wall when she needs help at 24/25 and can’t escape.

I don't think she has. She has evaded the question (see article below). And it's hard to formally renounce your US Citizenship. You have to do it in person, at a Consulate, and it takes months. I don't think an actual renunciation would have escaped the notice of the foreign press. And I keep hearing that she's attending Stanford - is she on a J-1 visa then? It could happen but I think it would be a pretty big lift for Stanford to argue that someone that JUST renounced their US Citizenship in favor of Chinese cistizenship needs a J-1 visa. And once that news got out, hoo boy. That does not, as we say, pass the Washington Post test.

This article is pretty brutal - and completely spot on. She's being used. I don't think she's totally innocent here, but she is very young.

The citizenship question is in the middle:

https://www.si.com/olympics/2022/02/08/eileen-gu-big-air-gold-medal-china-citizenship-status

[Anonymous]

Are judges all Chinese? I thought they came from different countries.