Liberal policing and policies in San Francisco

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like London Breed might be finally waking up a little bit. Maybe she sees the writing on the wall about the red wave that’s coming.


Or, more likely.... the business community went to her and told her to clean things up or they were out of there.


For sure that’s what happened. I wonder what took them so long.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


My point was not that crime is not a problem. As you mentioned, I stated crime rates are going up everywhere. My point is that I don't understand why republicans always care so much about San Francisco's issues compared to everywhere else. It is weird. I think the rising crime rates are multi-factorial, and that public antipathy for the police among a segment of the left is a factor. I don't think a particular District Attorney's political leanings are an important factor for violent crime rates. For example, Joe Deters, the head prosecutor in Hamilton County, OH, which includes Cincinnati, is a pretty run-of-the-mill prosecutor. Murder rates are high in Cinci to a much greater extent than SF. The same could be said for Louisville or Dayton, or many other cities. Rising crime is only mentioned by republicans where it fits a political narrative, which is disingenuous.



We have seen - far too many times - that what happens in California eventually rears its ugly head in other parts of the country. We have seen a wave of progressive prosecutors installed in formerly moderate areas of the country (Fairfax County, for instance).
The goal is to oust these progressive prosecutors that have been bought and paid for by Soros. Get. them. all, out.


It goes way back, it's San Francisco's LGBT friendliness, and even earlier as an outpost for hippie counterculture types in Haight-Ashbury. The right views San Francisco as some kind of evil Sodom and Gomorrah.



Really? This is the narrative you're going to push? That "the right" views SF as a sinful cesspool? No, honey. Plenty of people, across the political spectrum, see SF for exactly what it is - a beautiful, once vibrant city that is now a crime-ridden, drug-laden, homeless magnet. This has nothing to do with "LGBT friendliness," you moron. Makes you feel good to gaslight, I suppose. Grow up and face reality.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


My point was not that crime is not a problem. As you mentioned, I stated crime rates are going up everywhere. My point is that I don't understand why republicans always care so much about San Francisco's issues compared to everywhere else. It is weird. I think the rising crime rates are multi-factorial, and that public antipathy for the police among a segment of the left is a factor. I don't think a particular District Attorney's political leanings are an important factor for violent crime rates. For example, Joe Deters, the head prosecutor in Hamilton County, OH, which includes Cincinnati, is a pretty run-of-the-mill prosecutor. Murder rates are high in Cinci to a much greater extent than SF. The same could be said for Louisville or Dayton, or many other cities. Rising crime is only mentioned by republicans where it fits a political narrative, which is disingenuous.



We have seen - far too many times - that what happens in California eventually rears its ugly head in other parts of the country. We have seen a wave of progressive prosecutors installed in formerly moderate areas of the country (Fairfax County, for instance).
The goal is to oust these progressive prosecutors that have been bought and paid for by Soros. Get. them. all, out.


It goes way back, it's San Francisco's LGBT friendliness, and even earlier as an outpost for hippie counterculture types in Haight-Ashbury. The right views San Francisco as some kind of evil Sodom and Gomorrah.


That is the biggest crock of crap.

I am a very conservative person. I have been to SF many times.... it is a beautiful city. My sibling (also conservative) lived there for over 30 years. I have other family there too.
Nearly all of them have moved within the past 5 years. They cannot tolerate the changes to the city.


I believe you. There are plenty of conservatives in the City. But the fact remains that if they moved to another American city of comparable size, it would be a move to a city with a higher violent crime rate. Vegas? Phoenix? Dallas? Higher violent crime rates. The only cities capable of supporting a major sports teams (excluding Green Bay) that are clearly safer are Salt Lake City and NYC. It sounds like your family members would have moved out of Milwaukee, or Memphis, or Cincinnati too. It still does not explain the special hatred republicans have for San Francisco.


It's not just SF. SF is in the news now because of the smash and grab robberies going on. Perhaps you have missed the threads about Philly, LA, Seattle, Portland, and other major cities across the nation that have seen a spike in crime and homicides, in particular.

These cities are all Democrat-run cities .......



https://abcnews.go.com/US/12-major-us-cities-top-annual-homicide-records/story?id=81466453


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Funny, I remember when Democrats actually blamed Trump for the violence occurring nightly in cities such as Portland, Minneapolis, Seattle... yet nary a peep about all of the current violence being Biden's fault. Why is that, do you think?
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Anonymous wrote:Hey, right-wing posters, don’t move to San Francisco. Problem solved. Just go to Florida and Texas cities where apparently there is no crime.


Hey, left-wing posters, start taking responsibility for the idiots you continue to elect who don't even attempt to lower crime rates in the cities they "govern."
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


My point was not that crime is not a problem. As you mentioned, I stated crime rates are going up everywhere. My point is that I don't understand why republicans always care so much about San Francisco's issues compared to everywhere else. It is weird. I think the rising crime rates are multi-factorial, and that public antipathy for the police among a segment of the left is a factor. I don't think a particular District Attorney's political leanings are an important factor for violent crime rates. For example, Joe Deters, the head prosecutor in Hamilton County, OH, which includes Cincinnati, is a pretty run-of-the-mill prosecutor. Murder rates are high in Cinci to a much greater extent than SF. The same could be said for Louisville or Dayton, or many other cities. Rising crime is only mentioned by republicans where it fits a political narrative, which is disingenuous.



We have seen - far too many times - that what happens in California eventually rears its ugly head in other parts of the country. We have seen a wave of progressive prosecutors installed in formerly moderate areas of the country (Fairfax County, for instance).
The goal is to oust these progressive prosecutors that have been bought and paid for by Soros. Get. them. all, out.


It goes way back, it's San Francisco's LGBT friendliness, and even earlier as an outpost for hippie counterculture types in Haight-Ashbury. The right views San Francisco as some kind of evil Sodom and Gomorrah.



Really? This is the narrative you're going to push? That "the right" views SF as a sinful cesspool? No, honey. Plenty of people, across the political spectrum, see SF for exactly what it is - a beautiful, once vibrant city that is now a crime-ridden, drug-laden, homeless magnet. This has nothing to do with "LGBT friendliness," you moron. Makes you feel good to gaslight, I suppose. Grow up and face reality.
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LMAO - the right wingers are triggered by the harsh truth. We see right through you.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


My point was not that crime is not a problem. As you mentioned, I stated crime rates are going up everywhere. My point is that I don't understand why republicans always care so much about San Francisco's issues compared to everywhere else. It is weird. I think the rising crime rates are multi-factorial, and that public antipathy for the police among a segment of the left is a factor. I don't think a particular District Attorney's political leanings are an important factor for violent crime rates. For example, Joe Deters, the head prosecutor in Hamilton County, OH, which includes Cincinnati, is a pretty run-of-the-mill prosecutor. Murder rates are high in Cinci to a much greater extent than SF. The same could be said for Louisville or Dayton, or many other cities. Rising crime is only mentioned by republicans where it fits a political narrative, which is disingenuous.



We have seen - far too many times - that what happens in California eventually rears its ugly head in other parts of the country. We have seen a wave of progressive prosecutors installed in formerly moderate areas of the country (Fairfax County, for instance).
The goal is to oust these progressive prosecutors that have been bought and paid for by Soros. Get. them. all, out.


It goes way back, it's San Francisco's LGBT friendliness, and even earlier as an outpost for hippie counterculture types in Haight-Ashbury. The right views San Francisco as some kind of evil Sodom and Gomorrah.



Really? This is the narrative you're going to push? That "the right" views SF as a sinful cesspool? No, honey. Plenty of people, across the political spectrum, see SF for exactly what it is - a beautiful, once vibrant city that is now a crime-ridden, drug-laden, homeless magnet. This has nothing to do with "LGBT friendliness," you moron. Makes you feel good to gaslight, I suppose. Grow up and face reality.
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LMAO - the right wingers are triggered by the harsh truth. We see right through you.


Right back atcha. The left wingers are so triggered by the harsh truth of what San Francisco has become that they're resorting (as usual) to deflection and outright lies in the hopes of changing the subject. Not going to work. We see right through you, and it's not pretty.
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It's true. San Francisco has always stood for the freedoms that the right wing hates.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


My point was not that crime is not a problem. As you mentioned, I stated crime rates are going up everywhere. My point is that I don't understand why republicans always care so much about San Francisco's issues compared to everywhere else. It is weird. I think the rising crime rates are multi-factorial, and that public antipathy for the police among a segment of the left is a factor. I don't think a particular District Attorney's political leanings are an important factor for violent crime rates. For example, Joe Deters, the head prosecutor in Hamilton County, OH, which includes Cincinnati, is a pretty run-of-the-mill prosecutor. Murder rates are high in Cinci to a much greater extent than SF. The same could be said for Louisville or Dayton, or many other cities. Rising crime is only mentioned by republicans where it fits a political narrative, which is disingenuous.



We have seen - far too many times - that what happens in California eventually rears its ugly head in other parts of the country. We have seen a wave of progressive prosecutors installed in formerly moderate areas of the country (Fairfax County, for instance).
The goal is to oust these progressive prosecutors that have been bought and paid for by Soros. Get. them. all, out.


It goes way back, it's San Francisco's LGBT friendliness, and even earlier as an outpost for hippie counterculture types in Haight-Ashbury. The right views San Francisco as some kind of evil Sodom and Gomorrah.



Really? This is the narrative you're going to push? That "the right" views SF as a sinful cesspool? No, honey. Plenty of people, across the political spectrum, see SF for exactly what it is - a beautiful, once vibrant city that is now a crime-ridden, drug-laden, homeless magnet. This has nothing to do with "LGBT friendliness," you moron. Makes you feel good to gaslight, I suppose. Grow up and face reality.
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LMAO - the right wingers are triggered by the harsh truth. We see right through you.


Right back atcha. The left wingers are so triggered by the harsh truth of what San Francisco has become that they're resorting (as usual) to deflection and outright lies in the hopes of changing the subject. Not going to work. We see right through you, and it's not pretty.


Already exposed as bullshit because a lot of other cities including Republican-run ones have also had an increase in crime. Not to mention that a lot of San Francisco's mentally ill homeless were sent there by red-county Sheriffs including the population of a 1000-bed mental institution in Utah that was bussed to San Fran.
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Anonymous wrote:It's true. San Francisco has always stood for the freedoms that the right wing hates.


Well, you are certainly free to wade through human excrement and used needles, while homeless people sleep in your yard. You enjoy those freedoms!
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


My point was not that crime is not a problem. As you mentioned, I stated crime rates are going up everywhere. My point is that I don't understand why republicans always care so much about San Francisco's issues compared to everywhere else. It is weird. I think the rising crime rates are multi-factorial, and that public antipathy for the police among a segment of the left is a factor. I don't think a particular District Attorney's political leanings are an important factor for violent crime rates. For example, Joe Deters, the head prosecutor in Hamilton County, OH, which includes Cincinnati, is a pretty run-of-the-mill prosecutor. Murder rates are high in Cinci to a much greater extent than SF. The same could be said for Louisville or Dayton, or many other cities. Rising crime is only mentioned by republicans where it fits a political narrative, which is disingenuous.



We have seen - far too many times - that what happens in California eventually rears its ugly head in other parts of the country. We have seen a wave of progressive prosecutors installed in formerly moderate areas of the country (Fairfax County, for instance).
The goal is to oust these progressive prosecutors that have been bought and paid for by Soros. Get. them. all, out.


It goes way back, it's San Francisco's LGBT friendliness, and even earlier as an outpost for hippie counterculture types in Haight-Ashbury. The right views San Francisco as some kind of evil Sodom and Gomorrah.



Really? This is the narrative you're going to push? That "the right" views SF as a sinful cesspool? No, honey. Plenty of people, across the political spectrum, see SF for exactly what it is - a beautiful, once vibrant city that is now a crime-ridden, drug-laden, homeless magnet. This has nothing to do with "LGBT friendliness," you moron. Makes you feel good to gaslight, I suppose. Grow up and face reality.
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LMAO - the right wingers are triggered by the harsh truth. We see right through you.


Right back atcha. The left wingers are so triggered by the harsh truth of what San Francisco has become that they're resorting (as usual) to deflection and outright lies in the hopes of changing the subject. Not going to work. We see right through you, and it's not pretty.


Already exposed as bullshit because a lot of other cities including Republican-run ones have also had an increase in crime. Not to mention that a lot of San Francisco's mentally ill homeless were sent there by red-county Sheriffs including the population of a 1000-bed mental institution in Utah that was bussed to San Fran.


We'll wait while you provide *legitimate* links for the bolded. As for your first sentence, there are far, far fewer Republican-run cities, as we all know. And they are simply nowhere near as dangerous as the Democrat-run cities. Please do continue to deny, deflect, and throw out strawmen.
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Even the SF Mayor is sick of this fantasyland BS that you can just be tolerant of widespread homelessness and crime and still have a city that livable. She's vowing more police and less tolerance. Here's a quote:

“It’s time the reign of criminals who are destroying our city, it is time for it to come to an end,” she said. “And it comes to an end when we take the steps to more aggressive with law enforcement. More aggressive with the changes in our policies and less tolerate of all the bullshit that has destroyed our city.”

So, liberal posters on here that enjoy SF's atmosphere of anarchy, where's next? Which city is the second-place SF? Seattle?
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Murder is much less likely to affect the average citizen as it is often gang relayed, domestic violence, or criminals killing each other. The large number of petty crimes from car jacking, drug use, shoplifting, street violence, homeless rantings, and lack of sanitary environment will make a place inhospitable

I am highly unlikely to be murdered in San Francisco but I am likely to be accosted by drugged out beggars.

I am as liberal as they come but your argument is silly.
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Anonymous wrote:It's true. San Francisco has always stood for the freedoms that the right wing hates.


Well, one of my ancestors was a union organizer in the ports and the City described in his journals was a racist place where only white men could have a hope of getting into the union and women were exploited as what you call sex workers but he called whores. SF got its liberal veneer when post WWII suburbanization cost an exodus and cheap housing that attracted artists, counterculture folk, and men and women challenging their sexual identities.

My parents still live there and are ultra liberal. We have to help them financially because they never worked consistently and have snorted any money they earned. They will be here at Christmas and lecture us for being Trump supporters (we are Democrats) because our children have their own beds, the house is clean, and we allow the children to believe in Santa Claus. My husband has learned to ignore them and take the children for walks and bike rides during their outbursts. I stay there to make sure they don’t do something to the house or themselves.

They are liberal San Francisco to the core, but actually selfish and immature
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


Crime is up in Republican-run cities as well... but that goes against the RW narrative



I am a Dem bit that is pretty weak sauce. We aren’t going to make progress if people like you don’t stop the what about us. This is not a playground, this is our country and the divide you engender is seriously damaging it.
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Anonymous wrote:Amazing how much hate the right has for SF when it has one of the lowest murder rates amongst big cities in America. Here is the list for most dangerous cities in 2019 and SF does not appear in the top 65:

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/66/

But Trumpers are conditioned to hate SF. Despite the average citizen being much safer in SF than in Peoria, Shreveport, or Tuscaloosa, Cleveland,Milwaukee, etc.



Interesting that you quoted numbers from 2019. It is now 2021 and those numbers have increased considerably.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/28/san-francisco-bay-area-gun-violence-murders-2020

https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/article/Homicides-are-up-36-in-Bay-Area-s-biggest-16315439.php



2019 is the last year with completed FBI data. Violent crime is on the rise everywhere. Smaller cities like Peoria, Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, and Dayton are waaaaay more dangerous than SF. But republicans don’t care. They just care about bashing SF because it fits some weird political narrative.


Um didn’t you just disprove your own narrative saying it’s gotten worse nationwide? Crime is going up? Why? Are you going to blame it all on Covid woes or are there aaaaany other reasons it might have gotten worse in the last few years? Any ideas?


My point was not that crime is not a problem. As you mentioned, I stated crime rates are going up everywhere. My point is that I don't understand why republicans always care so much about San Francisco's issues compared to everywhere else. It is weird. I think the rising crime rates are multi-factorial, and that public antipathy for the police among a segment of the left is a factor. I don't think a particular District Attorney's political leanings are an important factor for violent crime rates. For example, Joe Deters, the head prosecutor in Hamilton County, OH, which includes Cincinnati, is a pretty run-of-the-mill prosecutor. Murder rates are high in Cinci to a much greater extent than SF. The same could be said for Louisville or Dayton, or many other cities. Rising crime is only mentioned by republicans where it fits a political narrative, which is disingenuous.



We have seen - far too many times - that what happens in California eventually rears its ugly head in other parts of the country. We have seen a wave of progressive prosecutors installed in formerly moderate areas of the country (Fairfax County, for instance).
The goal is to oust these progressive prosecutors that have been bought and paid for by Soros. Get. them. all, out.


It goes way back, it's San Francisco's LGBT friendliness, and even earlier as an outpost for hippie counterculture types in Haight-Ashbury. The right views San Francisco as some kind of evil Sodom and Gomorrah.



Really? This is the narrative you're going to push? That "the right" views SF as a sinful cesspool? No, honey. Plenty of people, across the political spectrum, see SF for exactly what it is - a beautiful, once vibrant city that is now a crime-ridden, drug-laden, homeless magnet. This has nothing to do with "LGBT friendliness," you moron. Makes you feel good to gaslight, I suppose. Grow up and face reality.
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LMAO - the right wingers are triggered by the harsh truth. We see right through you.


Is that your response to the mayor's comments?
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