It’s gaslighting! My husband and I had running jokes about a fake mistress. Turns out all that time he had a real f—img mistress!!!! Your guard is down and mind is twisted. It’s some crazy stuff. |
Most people should work on their first marriage. I say that because most of the women I know in second marriages aren't any happier. Steps they can't stand and it became more complicated with exes, and bad feelings from the kids on both sides. I also know women that stayed with the cheater, but emotionally ended it. |
Exactly. She wasn't taught or learned back in childhood the morals and values most of us know. I know I wouldn't rob a bank, or steal from my neighbor whose garage door was left open. It's part of a mental illness, and poor judgement she still has. Obvious because she still can't identify as you pointed out that he was a pretty horrible person. She is still portraying it as a fantasy that never existed. It's sad because all her poor life choices has landed her in the situation she's in. |
Think about it. Would you want a best friend that treated their spouse that way? Or one that hit their spouse? It's ALL abuse. I would dump them in a heart beat. His behavior was showing you he actually condoned it. I would have told his wife even anon if I had to. I hope you divorced him because I'll bet he did it more than you know. That's usually the case. |
| I’ve never had an affair with a married man, but in grad school, I was in love with a man who was in a long distance relationship. I should say secretly as I hadn’t told him or anyone else. We worked together as research assistants. I wasn’t even sure that he had any feelings back until his gf showed up and she began acting over the top about their relationship and he started acting guilty. She took me out to lunch one day and told me their whole love story and that he could have joined her fabulous life in Europe but he wanted a doctorate so badly so she “let” him do it as long as he promised to behave. She implied he had misbehaved. Meanwhile, we hadn’t even touched each other. They were engaged within a month of her arrival. She left her dream job and a great apartment overseas to protect her investment in a guy who she believed was falling in love with someone else. She made him leave our grad program at the end of the semester and move in with his parents. He looked really shell-shocked. I don’t believe in affairs, but just the possibility of one cost them both so much. |
| Was the “other guy” to a long-term relationship in grad school. Had a fun tryst for a ~month. She went on to marry the boyfriend (he never found out) and have a good life together with two kids. I found my spouse two years later. We still see each other at professional events every couple of years and it is like old friends seeing each other (no sexual tension, that ship sailed long ago). It is the one “relationship” that I look back fondly on. Conceptually I know that it was wrong, but at 22 it didn’t seem to matter at the time. If it had ruined their relationship I would have more of a sense of regret. |
Yes. 50-year old friend's husband found out about her 4-year affair during Covid. He was fooled into believing it was a one time thing (not the multi-year affair it was) AND has no idea there were other affairs and infidelities before this. To the outside world she is a SAHM that projects a wholesome 'boy mom' image and homemaker. But, she secretly hates her husband and could give 2 sh*ts about her teen sons and offloads them on husband so she can carry out her infidelities. The poor guy is a sap. He has zero idea. |
Wouldn't be so sure. He might have rationalized that if he leaves, his kid's lives blow up. So it is worth his while to stay. |
Those are all good grounds for divorce. Not cheating. Try again. |
How can you be friends with such a messed up human? |
I had an affair that went on for around 12 years until I finally had the sense to cut contact a few years ago. I didn't regret it at all until recently. I'd absolved myself from guilt somehow by reasoning that I wasn't the first he'd cheat with and wouldn't be the last, both of which were true. A little while ago I saw a SM post from one of his now grown children about what a screwed up home/family life they'd had and how child hasn't spoken to his parents in years over it. It was only then that I started having regrets and realizing what damage and destruction I might have helped cause.
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Have no idea what his appeal might have been, but who cares about what he did? It is your feelings and beliefs that matter. |
| I have had many affairs. No regrets. Life experience. |
Right, so while you were getting screwed, so was your wife. Just in a different way. People like you are actually scarey to me. So amoral and selfish. |
| I had a ONS once while traveling. I don’t regret it as my marriage is basically sexless. My DH doesn’t know and never will. It was a mistake, but I have forgiven myself. |