Several states cancel unemployment benefits boost

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of jobs available. When you can stay at home and get X an hour- is it worth it to go back for only X +$5 more an hour? We do have vaccines now and it’s not like it was last year. I think a lot of people are reluctant to return to normal but that’s what is needed.

They are not “reluctant.” They are lazy.

Maybe some, but there are other concerns at play too. In some industries, particularly hospitality, people are reluctant to go back to work and off of unemployment for fear that they will be laid off again. Many people waited weeks or months to get the unemployment benefits to which they were entitled the first time around, and are afraid of being back in the same situation in a few months.

[Anonymous]

I guess they can now run a controlled experiment to see if unemployment boost does or does not make a difference in hiring.

[Anonymous]

Anyone who is arguing they are “lazy” or “entitled” have no clue what’s happening in the job market right now.

The hours are very unpredictable. You could work 40 hours this week, but get cut to 10 hours next week. Unemployment is much more stable. It’s also a beast to get into the unemployment system. My mom was laid off from her hotel job in Southern California and it took her two months to finally get unemployment funds. She lived off savings until she could get the money from the state. Further, her unemployment automatically expired at the end of March 2021 (it’s good for you one year) and her renewal application with the state has been canceled twice. It’s so much easier to just remain in the system and get a consistent benefits check.

Laid off Employees are being 100% rational right now. So many business owners are sketchy about pay, benefits, and hours right now. They will promise stability and cut down your hours without warning. And if you even get paid for 5 hours, you don’t qualify for unemployment.

Sorry, but most business owners are acting shady.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The vaccine won’t be effective for 5-15% of the population.

False.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who is arguing they are “lazy” or “entitled” have no clue what’s happening in the job market right now.

The hours are very unpredictable. You could work 40 hours this week, but get cut to 10 hours next week. Unemployment is much more stable. It’s also a beast to get into the unemployment system. My mom was laid off from her hotel job in Southern California and it took her two months to finally get unemployment funds. She lived off savings until she could get the money from the state. Further, her unemployment automatically expired at the end of March 2021 (it’s good for you one year) and her renewal application with the state has been canceled twice. It’s so much easier to just remain in the system and get a consistent benefits check.

Laid off Employees are being 100% rational right now. So many business owners are sketchy about pay, benefits, and hours right now. They will promise stability and cut down your hours without warning. And if you even get paid for 5 hours, you don’t qualify for unemployment.

Sorry, but most business owners are acting shady.

“Most business owners are acting shady?” Pure speculation on your part. And rationalization.

Maybe those on unemployment are acting rationally. Which is why the unemployment boost needs to be ended. So the “rational” choice is to go back and work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are a lot of jobs available. When you can stay at home and get X an hour- is it worth it to go back for only X +$5 more an hour? We do have vaccines now and it’s not like it was last year. I think a lot of people are reluctant to return to normal but that’s what is needed.

They are not “reluctant.” They are lazy.

Maybe some, but there are other concerns at play too. In some industries, particularly hospitality, people are reluctant to go back to work and off of unemployment for fear that they will be laid off again. Many people waited weeks or months to get the unemployment benefits to which they were entitled the first time around, and are afraid of being back in the same situation in a few months.

Its not just fear of being laid off. Everyone should read this thread about what happened to restaurant workers in the pandemic but in short:

- They saw their co-workers die because they took shifts and were exposed
- The restaurant owners double died in free government money that does not need to be repaid
- The government pay was not passed on to workers
- The employees who stayed saw their shifts cut in half and income severely reduced with no remorse
- The owners still refuse to offer benefits like healthcare (which is covered under the 2020/2021 pandemic acts)
- Some owners shut down restaurants entirely for 5-6 months with no discussion and expect former employees to come crawling back
- The employees who are taking on new jobs are doing so with better compensation rates at places like Amazon warehouses than they were in hospitality/restaurant industries
- Restaurants are hiring back currently at reduced hours in major cities - that means reduced paychecks
- No one knows if a 4th wave is coming so employees could be right back to where they started with uncertainty if it hits and they believed their bosses

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Got to love all the (actually lazy, as opposed to calling others lazy) white collar workers still sitting at home in bed in their PJs half-assing their Zoom meetings (although don't worry, since it's an anonymous message board, all of them will trip over themselves to indignantly claim that they are OMG FRONT LINE WORKERS WHO HAVE GONE TO WORK IN PERSON EVERY DAY FOR THE PAST 13 MONTHS, which is, of course total BS) demanding that the poor people get back into the kitchen to serve them their burgers for minimum wage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sooner or later, people need to work and produce. There is no such thing as a demand-only economy. I don’t understand why people don’t get this. It will be no good getting a check from the government when a loaf of bread costs $20.

People won’t acknowledge this until it’s too late. Working for a small business making min wage = serfdom but getting a government check every month = freedom? LOL can’t wait until reality hits these people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who is arguing they are “lazy” or “entitled” have no clue what’s happening in the job market right now.

The hours are very unpredictable. You could work 40 hours this week, but get cut to 10 hours next week. Unemployment is much more stable. It’s also a beast to get into the unemployment system. My mom was laid off from her hotel job in Southern California and it took her two months to finally get unemployment funds. She lived off savings until she could get the money from the state. Further, her unemployment automatically expired at the end of March 2021 (it’s good for you one year) and her renewal application with the state has been canceled twice. It’s so much easier to just remain in the system and get a consistent benefits check.

Laid off Employees are being 100% rational right now. So many business owners are sketchy about pay, benefits, and hours right now. They will promise stability and cut down your hours without warning. And if you even get paid for 5 hours, you don’t qualify for unemployment.

Sorry, but most business owners are acting shady.

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This exactly. Hospitality and food service is still very shaky. DH is still out because it took months to get unemployment and those who have returned get 5-10 hours a week and then are told it is "slow" and get no hours for weeks without officially being laid off. He's waiting until things are more stable before going back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Well, well, well - turns out these companies can afford to pay their workers better

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what. That’s what the people in those states voted for and continue to vote for. Clearly it’s what the leaders and voters want so why is this news?

It's not what the voters want. Why do you think Arizona went blue? Oh wait you are a trumper who thinks Arizona "auditing" the votes is a real thing. HAHAHAHA Bamboo, down ballots and election tampering. OMG dumber than dumb cult followers. Don the Con.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who is arguing they are “lazy” or “entitled” have no clue what’s happening in the job market right now.

The hours are very unpredictable. You could work 40 hours this week, but get cut to 10 hours next week. Unemployment is much more stable. It’s also a beast to get into the unemployment system. My mom was laid off from her hotel job in Southern California and it took her two months to finally get unemployment funds. She lived off savings until she could get the money from the state. Further, her unemployment automatically expired at the end of March 2021 (it’s good for you one year) and her renewal application with the state has been canceled twice. It’s so much easier to just remain in the system and get a consistent benefits check.

Laid off Employees are being 100% rational right now. So many business owners are sketchy about pay, benefits, and hours right now. They will promise stability and cut down your hours without warning. And if you even get paid for 5 hours, you don’t qualify for unemployment.

Sorry, but most business owners are acting shady.

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This exactly. Hospitality and food service is still very shaky. DH is still out because it took months to get unemployment and those who have returned get 5-10 hours a week and then are told it is "slow" and get no hours for weeks without officially being laid off. He's waiting until things are more stable before going back.

If you feel strongly about this or have impacted family members, please write to your elected officials to be sure they understand this perspective. Maybe a workaround can be developed that can provide a safety net for those who are willing to go back but are at risk of them wind up only getting limited hours. It's just too easy to say that people are lazy when you don't know the real reasons why workers are reluctant to return to the workforce.

[Anonymous]

Back to the original purpose of this thread - Arizona has joined the others. Its now:

Arkansas
Montana
South Carolina
Arizona
Tennessee (pending)

[Anonymous]

Georgia and Wyoming are also reportedly considering it.