Dilemma: Support Son National Sports Championship or Ex’s Wedding?

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Anonymous wrote:You have a 3rd option: Support your son in having a conversation with his dad. Role play with him how to talk with dad about wanting to go to the sports event. If he’s not sure what to say, you can offer language. What you can’t do is the talking. This has to be between your son and his dad. You have to stay focused on what your son says, not what you think his dad will say, what the fiancé wants or says or who’s right/wrong. Make this about helping your son advocate for himself, not taking sides.


Op here, great idea conceptually, just not certain that middle school aged DS is old enough/ready/mature enough to have to navigate that conversation without being made to feel guilty or manipulated by Dad/New wife.

My son has clearly stated that he wants to go to champs, to the point of getting very emotional (understandably) about it. I know that he probably wants his dad to be there as well.

I just don’t want my kid to feel guilty or distracted by having to have the conversation...

Tell your son you are making the decision for him and that he will be attending the sporting event. That way you relieve him of the anxiety and guilt over making the choice.


By doing this just admit you don’t want dad as dad anymore. Stop taking the child support and just terminate the relationship. Clearly dad is not important to OP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have a 3rd option: Support your son in having a conversation with his dad. Role play with him how to talk with dad about wanting to go to the sports event. If he’s not sure what to say, you can offer language. What you can’t do is the talking. This has to be between your son and his dad. You have to stay focused on what your son says, not what you think his dad will say, what the fiancé wants or says or who’s right/wrong. Make this about helping your son advocate for himself, not taking sides.


Op here, great idea conceptually, just not certain that middle school aged DS is old enough/ready/mature enough to have to navigate that conversation without being made to feel guilty or manipulated by Dad/New wife.

My son has clearly stated that he wants to go to champs, to the point of getting very emotional (understandably) about it. I know that he probably wants his dad to be there as well.

I just don’t want my kid to feel guilty or distracted by having to have the conversation...

Tell your son you are making the decision for him and that he will be attending the sporting event. That way you relieve him of the anxiety and guilt over making the choice.


She cannot do that without violating a court order. Not to mention it sends the wrong message. Family trumps sports.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have a 3rd option: Support your son in having a conversation with his dad. Role play with him how to talk with dad about wanting to go to the sports event. If he’s not sure what to say, you can offer language. What you can’t do is the talking. This has to be between your son and his dad. You have to stay focused on what your son says, not what you think his dad will say, what the fiancé wants or says or who’s right/wrong. Make this about helping your son advocate for himself, not taking sides.


Op here, great idea conceptually, just not certain that middle school aged DS is old enough/ready/mature enough to have to navigate that conversation without being made to feel guilty or manipulated by Dad/New wife.

My son has clearly stated that he wants to go to champs, to the point of getting very emotional (understandably) about it. I know that he probably wants his dad to be there as well.

I just don’t want my kid to feel guilty or distracted by having to have the conversation...

Tell your son you are making the decision for him and that he will be attending the sporting event. That way you relieve him of the anxiety and guilt over making the choice.


Family first. It should not be an option


Both decisions are family first, ironically.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Our DS will probably qualify for a spot in the natl champs for a sport he loves. He has worked very very hard at the sport and is an integral member of the team. Will be his first national champs ever, and he has been training for two years to get a spot. He’s a tween, so this opportunity will put him on the radar of really good coaches/ teams for high school recruitment.

Ex’s fiancé recently announced their upcoming wedding date; it’s is several months away, but scheduled on the same day/weekend as the natl champs. In the last three years she has never been to one of our sons events , has no interest in his life or well being, has actively lobbied to convince his dad to reduce child support, and dad has decreased involvement in DS life.

She refuses to move the date ( it has some importance to her) , and Ex is adamant that he wants our son to be involved in the event of the wedding. My son does not want to miss champs, and does not want to attend the wedding.

If I support my son I come off as the jealous ex. If I support dad, my son loses out on a major opportunity that directly impacts his life/future and does not impact his dad or new wife at all.

What would you do?



Team Son.

But I don’t understand how you could know now his team would qualify for a national championship in anything this far out. If you mean like a sport like baseball and it’s just some sanction’s “national championship” those are kind of a dime a dozen and it isn’t hard to qualify for them — they are basically like any other tournament just larger and usually regional. So be a little careful how big a deal you make about it to others as you could sound silly.


It’s not baseball or basketball.

Save for a major unexpected injury, he will more than likely be in at least two if not three events for his team based on already registering national qualifying marks in within the last year. Think Gymnastics/Boxing/Track/Swimming/Chess...

I’m being vague on the sport purposefully, which is not important to the dilemma. Whether or not he’s good enough to go not the question.

I hear you on talking too much to others about it (outside of anonymity) , people judge.



None of those are that important. What if it were your wedding and he choose not to go? Swim is individual times not team times and there are plenty more meets.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have a 3rd option: Support your son in having a conversation with his dad. Role play with him how to talk with dad about wanting to go to the sports event. If he’s not sure what to say, you can offer language. What you can’t do is the talking. This has to be between your son and his dad. You have to stay focused on what your son says, not what you think his dad will say, what the fiancé wants or says or who’s right/wrong. Make this about helping your son advocate for himself, not taking sides.


Op here, great idea conceptually, just not certain that middle school aged DS is old enough/ready/mature enough to have to navigate that conversation without being made to feel guilty or manipulated by Dad/New wife.

My son has clearly stated that he wants to go to champs, to the point of getting very emotional (understandably) about it. I know that he probably wants his dad to be there as well.

I just don’t want my kid to feel guilty or distracted by having to have the conversation...

Tell your son you are making the decision for him and that he will be attending the sporting event. That way you relieve him of the anxiety and guilt over making the choice.


Family first. It should not be an option


Both decisions are family first, ironically.


Sports over a wedding is not the same thing. And, Dad is getting no say so is he not part of the decision. It’s not a question. Kid goes to wedding.
Anonymous
This is why courts should just terminate dads rights. He really has none.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Support the kid. His date is set by outside forces. Ex didn't consult anyone when she set hers. If she wanted the kid at her wedding she'd move mountains to have him there.


"She" didn't set a date unilaterally. "She" is only one half of a couple. It wasn't on her to consult with her fiance's family about important dates; that's HIS job. Let's keep the focus where it should be: on a dad who did not check with his kid/family before setting a date.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have a 3rd option: Support your son in having a conversation with his dad. Role play with him how to talk with dad about wanting to go to the sports event. If he’s not sure what to say, you can offer language. What you can’t do is the talking. This has to be between your son and his dad. You have to stay focused on what your son says, not what you think his dad will say, what the fiancé wants or says or who’s right/wrong. Make this about helping your son advocate for himself, not taking sides.


Op here, great idea conceptually, just not certain that middle school aged DS is old enough/ready/mature enough to have to navigate that conversation without being made to feel guilty or manipulated by Dad/New wife.

My son has clearly stated that he wants to go to champs, to the point of getting very emotional (understandably) about it. I know that he probably wants his dad to be there as well.

I just don’t want my kid to feel guilty or distracted by having to have the conversation...

Tell your son you are making the decision for him and that he will be attending the sporting event. That way you relieve him of the anxiety and guilt over making the choice.


Family first. It should not be an option


Both decisions are family first, ironically.


Sports over a wedding is not the same thing. And, Dad is getting no say so is he not part of the decision. It’s not a question. Kid goes to wedding.


Family first would be changing the wedding date.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is why courts should just terminate dads rights. He really has none.


He has the right to change the wedding date if he wants his son there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have a 3rd option: Support your son in having a conversation with his dad. Role play with him how to talk with dad about wanting to go to the sports event. If he’s not sure what to say, you can offer language. What you can’t do is the talking. This has to be between your son and his dad. You have to stay focused on what your son says, not what you think his dad will say, what the fiancé wants or says or who’s right/wrong. Make this about helping your son advocate for himself, not taking sides.


Op here, great idea conceptually, just not certain that middle school aged DS is old enough/ready/mature enough to have to navigate that conversation without being made to feel guilty or manipulated by Dad/New wife.

My son has clearly stated that he wants to go to champs, to the point of getting very emotional (understandably) about it. I know that he probably wants his dad to be there as well.

I just don’t want my kid to feel guilty or distracted by having to have the conversation...

Tell your son you are making the decision for him and that he will be attending the sporting event. That way you relieve him of the anxiety and guilt over making the choice.


Family first. It should not be an option


Both decisions are family first, ironically.


No they are not. One is just a sporting event. If a Nationals pitcher can miss a game during the World Series to attend the birth of his child, this boy can miss a “national championship” (for a TWEEN team, natch) that in the great scheme of things means nothing, for the wedding of his father.

OP knows this deep down. She is just pissed her ex is getting remarried and is trying to use her son as leverage to express her disapproval.

Her contempt for the new wife oozes from her post.

She needs to be an adult, tell son this is life, there will be other sporting events, a “national championship” that is only theoretical at this point doesn’t matter. And if that does come to be, life is about hard choices, doing the right thing, and sometimes being disappointed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have a 3rd option: Support your son in having a conversation with his dad. Role play with him how to talk with dad about wanting to go to the sports event. If he’s not sure what to say, you can offer language. What you can’t do is the talking. This has to be between your son and his dad. You have to stay focused on what your son says, not what you think his dad will say, what the fiancé wants or says or who’s right/wrong. Make this about helping your son advocate for himself, not taking sides.


Op here, great idea conceptually, just not certain that middle school aged DS is old enough/ready/mature enough to have to navigate that conversation without being made to feel guilty or manipulated by Dad/New wife.

My son has clearly stated that he wants to go to champs, to the point of getting very emotional (understandably) about it. I know that he probably wants his dad to be there as well.

I just don’t want my kid to feel guilty or distracted by having to have the conversation...

Tell your son you are making the decision for him and that he will be attending the sporting event. That way you relieve him of the anxiety and guilt over making the choice.


By doing this just admit you don’t want dad as dad anymore. Stop taking the child support and just terminate the relationship. Clearly dad is not important to OP.


It’s just 1 day. It’s a wedding... he isn’t getting the Nobel peace prize.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have a 3rd option: Support your son in having a conversation with his dad. Role play with him how to talk with dad about wanting to go to the sports event. If he’s not sure what to say, you can offer language. What you can’t do is the talking. This has to be between your son and his dad. You have to stay focused on what your son says, not what you think his dad will say, what the fiancé wants or says or who’s right/wrong. Make this about helping your son advocate for himself, not taking sides.


Op here, great idea conceptually, just not certain that middle school aged DS is old enough/ready/mature enough to have to navigate that conversation without being made to feel guilty or manipulated by Dad/New wife.

My son has clearly stated that he wants to go to champs, to the point of getting very emotional (understandably) about it. I know that he probably wants his dad to be there as well.

I just don’t want my kid to feel guilty or distracted by having to have the conversation...

Tell your son you are making the decision for him and that he will be attending the sporting event. That way you relieve him of the anxiety and guilt over making the choice.


Family first. It should not be an option


Both decisions are family first, ironically.


Sports over a wedding is not the same thing. And, Dad is getting no say so is he not part of the decision. It’s not a question. Kid goes to wedding.


Family first would be changing the wedding date.
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Then OP would probably engineer some other reason to keep DS away.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This is why courts should just terminate dads rights. He really has none.


He has the right to change the wedding date if he wants his son there.


Mom will find another excuse. This isn’t really just about the date.
Anonymous
I suspect fiance knew the date conflicted and deliberately picked it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You have a 3rd option: Support your son in having a conversation with his dad. Role play with him how to talk with dad about wanting to go to the sports event. If he’s not sure what to say, you can offer language. What you can’t do is the talking. This has to be between your son and his dad. You have to stay focused on what your son says, not what you think his dad will say, what the fiancé wants or says or who’s right/wrong. Make this about helping your son advocate for himself, not taking sides.


Op here, great idea conceptually, just not certain that middle school aged DS is old enough/ready/mature enough to have to navigate that conversation without being made to feel guilty or manipulated by Dad/New wife.

My son has clearly stated that he wants to go to champs, to the point of getting very emotional (understandably) about it. I know that he probably wants his dad to be there as well.

I just don’t want my kid to feel guilty or distracted by having to have the conversation...

Tell your son you are making the decision for him and that he will be attending the sporting event. That way you relieve him of the anxiety and guilt over making the choice.


By doing this just admit you don’t want dad as dad anymore. Stop taking the child support and just terminate the relationship. Clearly dad is not important to OP.


It’s just 1 day. It’s a wedding... he isn’t getting the Nobel peace prize.


So, if mom remarries he should not go to her wedding.
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