How many men blame the singles on/ divorce on feminism?

[Anonymous]

I think feminism has caused a few issues in society. It all seems a little topsy-turvy at the moment and I'm female saying this.

There is the me-too movement going on but then we have unprecedented rates of females lying about being raped and the matters getting thrown out in court. A lot of females at the moment bringing up indecent assault from 40 years ago always in relation to celebrities who have money. It's always about money.

Again the me-too movement where women don't want to be objectified by men but women today are wearing less clothes than ever before, getting naked on the internet and being sugar babies. So it's ok for them to objectify themselves.

The fact that women want superannuation for time they have spent being a SAHM is ridiculous. You get that money because you are working, it's not a right. If you choose to be a SAHM then you forgo some benefits.

Women want equality with men in the household but not when they divorce, they want men to pay them to support them, they don't want equality in life, they always want the men to pay.

Honestly after seeing so many men screwed over after divorce with the ex-wife getting child support while living with her new partner in their brand new million dollar mansion I think the system is screwed. If the woman doesn't need extra cash she shouldn't be getting it.

And the money women want to spend on nails, hair, botox, fake tans, make-up. I had a single friend who wouldn't move in with his long term girlfriend. He recognised he couldn't pay for her lifestyle.

I am not sure I would be rushing to marry these days either. It all seems a little off out there, everyone wants to sleep around. Why don't they just sleep around and leave the rest.

[Anonymous]

but so many men are very immature, have addiction issues, mental health issues etc. More trouble than they are worth

It’s not just men. It’s people that have these problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think feminism has caused a few issues in society. It all seems a little topsy-turvy at the moment and I'm female saying this.

There is the me-too movement going on but then we have unprecedented rates of females lying about being raped and the matters getting thrown out in court. A lot of females at the moment bringing up indecent assault from 40 years ago always in relation to celebrities who have money. It's always about money.

Again the me-too movement where women don't want to be objectified by men but women today are wearing less clothes than ever before, getting naked on the internet and being sugar babies. So it's ok for them to objectify themselves.

The fact that women want superannuation for time they have spent being a SAHM is ridiculous. You get that money because you are working, it's not a right. If you choose to be a SAHM then you forgo some benefits.

Women want equality with men in the household but not when they divorce, they want men to pay them to support them, they don't want equality in life, they always want the men to pay.

Honestly after seeing so many men screwed over after divorce with the ex-wife getting child support while living with her new partner in their brand new million dollar mansion I think the system is screwed. If the woman doesn't need extra cash she shouldn't be getting it.

And the money women want to spend on nails, hair, botox, fake tans, make-up. I had a single friend who wouldn't move in with his long term girlfriend. He recognised he couldn't pay for her lifestyle.

I am not sure I would be rushing to marry these days either. It all seems a little off out there, everyone wants to sleep around. Why don't they just sleep around and leave the rest.

Do you actually talk to people in real life or do you just draw conclusions from tv and the internet? You seem very out of touch with reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I blame the family law system, which leads women to believe that they will get everything. My ex-wife spent years bullying me, threatening divorce, and telling me if divorce happened she'd get everything--all the time with the children, all my money, retirement, house, etc. She had no incentive to behave well or participate in counseling because all she had to do was drive me from the home and she'd win the lottery.

It didn't work out that way for her, but only because I fought like hell and spent a lot on attorneys. But many other men haven't been so lucky.

I tell all young men to avoid marriage at all costs, and if they are dumb enough to get married, don't have kids. If they're dumb enough to marry and have kids, just have one child and make sure your wife is always working and always have a backup plan and hidden savings ($40,000) so you can hire a good attorney.

Huh? What are you talking about? The default in this area is joint custody, and even if some alimony is awarded, it's not forever. If what you're objecting to is splitting marital assets (including your retirement) I don't know what to tell you. If you didn't like the household arrangement of labor with your wife, you should have dealt with that. Don't put your own inability to manage your relationships on the "family law system."

Totally agree. In my divorce and everyone else I know you just basically split things. It’s called equitable distribution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think feminism has caused a few issues in society. It all seems a little topsy-turvy at the moment and I'm female saying this.

There is the me-too movement going on but then we have unprecedented rates of females lying about being raped and the matters getting thrown out in court. A lot of females at the moment bringing up indecent assault from 40 years ago always in relation to celebrities who have money. It's always about money.

Again the me-too movement where women don't want to be objectified by men but women today are wearing less clothes than ever before, getting naked on the internet and being sugar babies. So it's ok for them to objectify themselves.

The fact that women want superannuation for time they have spent being a SAHM is ridiculous. You get that money because you are working, it's not a right. If you choose to be a SAHM then you forgo some benefits.

Women want equality with men in the household but not when they divorce, they want men to pay them to support them, they don't want equality in life, they always want the men to pay.

Honestly after seeing so many men screwed over after divorce with the ex-wife getting child support while living with her new partner in their brand new million dollar mansion I think the system is screwed. If the woman doesn't need extra cash she shouldn't be getting it.

And the money women want to spend on nails, hair, botox, fake tans, make-up. I had a single friend who wouldn't move in with his long term girlfriend. He recognised he couldn't pay for her lifestyle.

I am not sure I would be rushing to marry these days either. It all seems a little off out there, everyone wants to sleep around. Why don't they just sleep around and leave the rest.

People keep saying this about divorce (women getting all of the $ Etc) and I always wonder where this comes from. I know several couples who have divorced and it’s pretty much always a 50/50 split (both assets and custody of DCs). If alimony is rewarded it is usually quite limited. Child support yes. I actually know two women who were the higher earners and pay child support etc to ex-DHs so it isn’t gender biased that I have seen. I’ve seen some custody battles but they’ve all ended up pretty much 50/50. In the cases where dad doesn’t see the kids much it’s his own choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

but so many men are very immature, have addiction issues, mental health issues etc. More trouble than they are worth

It’s not just men. It’s people that have these problems.

Indeed. But more often men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think of this comes from the fact that women are more successful then ever in their own. For a lot of women, the salary or job security of the man are not important at least at the initial stages of the relationship. Dating sites bear this out, most of the women are chasing the top 20% of men. Where does this leave men who are not attractive and do not have any other personal or economic success? The easy thing for them to do is to blame feminism (typically defined as equality in the workplace) for the lack of their success. They can claim that women are taking “their jobs” and not respecting them for their looks or any other quality that may have attracted a partner easily in the pass. Obviously, there is a lot of flaws in this thinking.

Female here: If females are chasing only the top 20% of men do you think all those females are the top 20% of females. Why should a male in the top 20% even look at an average female. It doesn't matter if you make a lot of money as a female that doesn't' put you in the top 20% of females. Women are still rated on looks alone and part of the problem is that most women out there are rating themselves an 8-10 when they are actually a 5. With dating sites a man will pump and dump anyone, it doesn't mean he intends to pursue anything with that female. So yes woman are all screwing the top 20% of males while the average males are left behind.

So previously where people equally paired up now females are expecting to pair up with the top 20%. I think women do consider salary and money important it's constantly talked about on DCUM. Then you have women chasing the bad boys and screwing them left, right and centre because now it's good for a woman to experience her sexual freedom.

In the end you have some men who are left behind. I think perhaps they look around and can't find anything to date because the females are all so entitled thinking they deserve the top 20% and females are very promiscuous now, perhaps men are no longer finding that marriage material.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

but so many men are very immature, have addiction issues, mental health issues etc. More trouble than they are worth

It’s not just men. It’s people that have these problems.

Indeed. But more often men.

Oh, that’s a lie. Women can be nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think feminism has caused a few issues in society. It all seems a little topsy-turvy at the moment and I'm female saying this.

There is the me-too movement going on but then we have unprecedented rates of females lying about being raped and the matters getting thrown out in court. A lot of females at the moment bringing up indecent assault from 40 years ago always in relation to celebrities who have money. It's always about money.

Again the me-too movement where women don't want to be objectified by men but women today are wearing less clothes than ever before, getting naked on the internet and being sugar babies. So it's ok for them to objectify themselves.

The fact that women want superannuation for time they have spent being a SAHM is ridiculous. You get that money because you are working, it's not a right. If you choose to be a SAHM then you forgo some benefits.

Women want equality with men in the household but not when they divorce, they want men to pay them to support them, they don't want equality in life, they always want the men to pay.

Honestly after seeing so many men screwed over after divorce with the ex-wife getting child support while living with her new partner in their brand new million dollar mansion I think the system is screwed. If the woman doesn't need extra cash she shouldn't be getting it.

And the money women want to spend on nails, hair, botox, fake tans, make-up. I had a single friend who wouldn't move in with his long term girlfriend. He recognised he couldn't pay for her lifestyle.

I am not sure I would be rushing to marry these days either. It all seems a little off out there, everyone wants to sleep around. Why don't they just sleep around and leave the rest.

Do you actually talk to people in real life or do you just draw conclusions from tv and the internet? You seem very out of touch with reality.

I work in law enforcement so yes I actually deal with the real life sexual assault claims that are fake. One sixteen year old girl falsely accused 4 men of raping her because she was upset one of them wouldn't later date her. I have many stories like this. A lot of one night stands when the boyfriend finds out and of course the female yells rape. Most cases are this, very rarely do they turn out real. How is it found out, the girls usually film it laughing, they are so dumb. Text messages, phone calls, they all get found out or their stories are so changed up in court it gets thrown out within the first couple of days of the trial because they can't remember their own story.

As for court cases of drug rape. The females are tested in hospital for the drugs required for date rape drug. So far 0% have come back positive.

The stories of child support are all real. The men are living in crappy places and have been left with little. The ex is having overseas holidays and living in a new mansion. Other male is living in a granny flat at the rear of someone's house.

As for sugar babies, our universities are full of them.

Yes this is reality. I don't think I'm out of touch. Yes I'm taking the celebrity indecent assaults from the media because in real life I am yet to see a woman charge an average man with an assault from 40 years ago. The only ones that is happening to are celebrites and the church. The church is probably real but if there isn't money involved the charges aren't being laid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of this comes from the fact that women are more successful then ever in their own. For a lot of women, the salary or job security of the man are not important at least at the initial stages of the relationship. Dating sites bear this out, most of the women are chasing the top 20% of men. Where does this leave men who are not attractive and do not have any other personal or economic success? The easy thing for them to do is to blame feminism (typically defined as equality in the workplace) for the lack of their success. They can claim that women are taking “their jobs” and not respecting them for their looks or any other quality that may have attracted a partner easily in the pass. Obviously, there is a lot of flaws in this thinking.

Female here: If females are chasing only the top 20% of men do you think all those females are the top 20% of females. Why should a male in the top 20% even look at an average female. It doesn't matter if you make a lot of money as a female that doesn't' put you in the top 20% of females. Women are still rated on looks alone and part of the problem is that most women out there are rating themselves an 8-10 when they are actually a 5. With dating sites a man will pump and dump anyone, it doesn't mean he intends to pursue anything with that female. So yes woman are all screwing the top 20% of males while the average males are left behind.

So previously where people equally paired up now females are expecting to pair up with the top 20%. I think women do consider salary and money important it's constantly talked about on DCUM. Then you have women chasing the bad boys and screwing them left, right and centre because now it's good for a woman to experience her sexual freedom.

In the end you have some men who are left behind. I think perhaps they look around and can't find anything to date because the females are all so entitled thinking they deserve the top 20% and females are very promiscuous now, perhaps men are no longer finding that marriage material.

I disagree that women are rated “on looks alone”. I don’t think is entirely true, especially
Not in terms of marriage. For a rich man- sure, he might marry for looks alone. But if we are talking about the top 20% that includes mostly upper middle class men also. Of course looks factor in, but so do brains/success. IMO they’ll marry their reasonably attractive colleague before they’d marry their secretary (even if she is beautiful). Doctors used to marry nurses/secretaries, now they are far more likely to marry other doctors. For example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of this comes from the fact that women are more successful then ever in their own. For a lot of women, the salary or job security of the man are not important at least at the initial stages of the relationship. Dating sites bear this out, most of the women are chasing the top 20% of men. Where does this leave men who are not attractive and do not have any other personal or economic success? The easy thing for them to do is to blame feminism (typically defined as equality in the workplace) for the lack of their success. They can claim that women are taking “their jobs” and not respecting them for their looks or any other quality that may have attracted a partner easily in the pass. Obviously, there is a lot of flaws in this thinking.

Female here: If females are chasing only the top 20% of men do you think all those females are the top 20% of females. Why should a male in the top 20% even look at an average female. It doesn't matter if you make a lot of money as a female that doesn't' put you in the top 20% of females. Women are still rated on looks alone and part of the problem is that most women out there are rating themselves an 8-10 when they are actually a 5. With dating sites a man will pump and dump anyone, it doesn't mean he intends to pursue anything with that female. So yes woman are all screwing the top 20% of males while the average males are left behind.

So previously where people equally paired up now females are expecting to pair up with the top 20%. I think women do consider salary and money important it's constantly talked about on DCUM. Then you have women chasing the bad boys and screwing them left, right and centre because now it's good for a woman to experience her sexual freedom.

In the end you have some men who are left behind. I think perhaps they look around and can't find anything to date because the females are all so entitled thinking they deserve the top 20% and females are very promiscuous now, perhaps men are no longer finding that marriage material.

You sound like a typical incel.

As PPs have noted, women now a days don't have to settle. Yes, women want a catch. Are you telling me men will date and marry any woman, like an overweight woman who doesn't do any house chores and doesn't take time to groom herself, eat healthy and exercise?

Majority of house chores and child care fall on the woman, and that is why women want a man to make a lot of money.. because they know that at some point, they will have to bear that responsibility. I make about the same as DH, but yes, I wanted a DH who made a decent amount so I could stay with the kids if I needed/wanted to because I know he was never going to be a sahd. Even with DH doing some childcare/house chores, the mental load all fell on me. Working FT and taking on the majority of the house chores/child care was causing a lot of stress in our marriage. So, I quit and became a sahm for a couple of years. Stress level went waaay down; we had a lot more sex. I could not have quit if DH wasn't making enough to support the family. I went back to work, and my income will enable DH to retire early.

If a man is getting left behind perhaps he should up his game. Women are now more educated than ever. We have choices. We don't have to settle like previous generations did, like my mother did. My father treated her and continues to treat her like crap. Divorce is financially harder on the women than men because they are not paid as well as men on average. It was worse years ago.

I'm so grateful that I live in these times where I have choices, and where my DD too will have choices, and she won't have to settle. I hope she is financially independent so she can choose to marry or not, and if she does marry, she doesn't have to settle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of this comes from the fact that women are more successful then ever in their own. For a lot of women, the salary or job security of the man are not important at least at the initial stages of the relationship. Dating sites bear this out, most of the women are chasing the top 20% of men. Where does this leave men who are not attractive and do not have any other personal or economic success? The easy thing for them to do is to blame feminism (typically defined as equality in the workplace) for the lack of their success. They can claim that women are taking “their jobs” and not respecting them for their looks or any other quality that may have attracted a partner easily in the pass. Obviously, there is a lot of flaws in this thinking.

Female here: If females are chasing only the top 20% of men do you think all those females are the top 20% of females. Why should a male in the top 20% even look at an average female. It doesn't matter if you make a lot of money as a female that doesn't' put you in the top 20% of females. Women are still rated on looks alone and part of the problem is that most women out there are rating themselves an 8-10 when they are actually a 5. With dating sites a man will pump and dump anyone, it doesn't mean he intends to pursue anything with that female. So yes woman are all screwing the top 20% of males while the average males are left behind.

So previously where people equally paired up now females are expecting to pair up with the top 20%. I think women do consider salary and money important it's constantly talked about on DCUM. Then you have women chasing the bad boys and screwing them left, right and centre because now it's good for a woman to experience her sexual freedom.

In the end you have some men who are left behind. I think perhaps they look around and can't find anything to date because the females are all so entitled thinking they deserve the top 20% and females are very promiscuous now, perhaps men are no longer finding that marriage material.

I disagree that women are rated “on looks alone”. I don’t think is entirely true, especially
Not in terms of marriage. For a rich man- sure, he might marry for looks alone. But if we are talking about the top 20% that includes mostly upper middle class men also. Of course looks factor in, but so do brains/success. IMO they’ll marry their reasonably attractive colleague before they’d marry their secretary (even if she is beautiful). Doctors used to marry nurses/secretaries, now they are far more likely to marry other doctors. For example.

.. and then have affairs with the nurses and assistants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think feminism has caused a few issues in society. It all seems a little topsy-turvy at the moment and I'm female saying this.

There is the me-too movement going on but then we have unprecedented rates of females lying about being raped and the matters getting thrown out in court. A lot of females at the moment bringing up indecent assault from 40 years ago always in relation to celebrities who have money. It's always about money.

Again the me-too movement where women don't want to be objectified by men but women today are wearing less clothes than ever before, getting naked on the internet and being sugar babies. So it's ok for them to objectify themselves.

The fact that women want superannuation for time they have spent being a SAHM is ridiculous. You get that money because you are working, it's not a right. If you choose to be a SAHM then you forgo some benefits.

Women want equality with men in the household but not when they divorce, they want men to pay them to support them, they don't want equality in life, they always want the men to pay.

Honestly after seeing so many men screwed over after divorce with the ex-wife getting child support while living with her new partner in their brand new million dollar mansion I think the system is screwed. If the woman doesn't need extra cash she shouldn't be getting it.

And the money women want to spend on nails, hair, botox, fake tans, make-up. I had a single friend who wouldn't move in with his long term girlfriend. He recognised he couldn't pay for her lifestyle.

I am not sure I would be rushing to marry these days either. It all seems a little off out there, everyone wants to sleep around. Why don't they just sleep around and leave the rest.

Do you actually talk to people in real life or do you just draw conclusions from tv and the internet? You seem very out of touch with reality.

I work in law enforcement so yes I actually deal with the real life sexual assault claims that are fake. One sixteen year old girl falsely accused 4 men of raping her because she was upset one of them wouldn't later date her. I have many stories like this. A lot of one night stands when the boyfriend finds out and of course the female yells rape. Most cases are this, very rarely do they turn out real. How is it found out, the girls usually film it laughing, they are so dumb. Text messages, phone calls, they all get found out or their stories are so changed up in court it gets thrown out within the first couple of days of the trial because they can't remember their own story.

As for court cases of drug rape. The females are tested in hospital for the drugs required for date rape drug. So far 0% have come back positive.

The stories of child support are all real. The men are living in crappy places and have been left with little. The ex is having overseas holidays and living in a new mansion. Other male is living in a granny flat at the rear of someone's house.

As for sugar babies, our universities are full of them.

Yes this is reality. I don't think I'm out of touch. Yes I'm taking the celebrity indecent assaults from the media because in real life I am yet to see a woman charge an average man with an assault from 40 years ago. The only ones that is happening to are celebrites and the church. The church is probably real but if there isn't money involved the charges aren't being laid.

In terms of the financial piece- yes of course they have to pay child support and that causes a huge downgrade in lifestyle for BOTH parents. Two households are more expensive than one. If ex-wife finds a new man that pays for vacations and whatnot that has nothing to do with it. The man is welcome to find a new rich and generous girlfriend & do the same thing. It isn’t the fault of the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think feminism has caused a few issues in society. It all seems a little topsy-turvy at the moment and I'm female saying this.

There is the me-too movement going on but then we have unprecedented rates of females lying about being raped and the matters getting thrown out in court. A lot of females at the moment bringing up indecent assault from 40 years ago always in relation to celebrities who have money. It's always about money.

Again the me-too movement where women don't want to be objectified by men but women today are wearing less clothes than ever before, getting naked on the internet and being sugar babies. So it's ok for them to objectify themselves.

The fact that women want superannuation for time they have spent being a SAHM is ridiculous. You get that money because you are working, it's not a right. If you choose to be a SAHM then you forgo some benefits.

Women want equality with men in the household but not when they divorce, they want men to pay them to support them, they don't want equality in life, they always want the men to pay.

Honestly after seeing so many men screwed over after divorce with the ex-wife getting child support while living with her new partner in their brand new million dollar mansion I think the system is screwed. If the woman doesn't need extra cash she shouldn't be getting it.

And the money women want to spend on nails, hair, botox, fake tans, make-up. I had a single friend who wouldn't move in with his long term girlfriend. He recognised he couldn't pay for her lifestyle.

I am not sure I would be rushing to marry these days either. It all seems a little off out there, everyone wants to sleep around. Why don't they just sleep around and leave the rest.

Do you actually talk to people in real life or do you just draw conclusions from tv and the internet? You seem very out of touch with reality.

I work in law enforcement so yes I actually deal with the real life sexual assault claims that are fake. One sixteen year old girl falsely accused 4 men of raping her because she was upset one of them wouldn't later date her. I have many stories like this. A lot of one night stands when the boyfriend finds out and of course the female yells rape. Most cases are this, very rarely do they turn out real. How is it found out, the girls usually film it laughing, they are so dumb. Text messages, phone calls, they all get found out or their stories are so changed up in court it gets thrown out within the first couple of days of the trial because they can't remember their own story.

As for court cases of drug rape. The females are tested in hospital for the drugs required for date rape drug. So far 0% have come back positive.

The stories of child support are all real. The men are living in crappy places and have been left with little. The ex is having overseas holidays and living in a new mansion. Other male is living in a granny flat at the rear of someone's house.

As for sugar babies, our universities are full of them.

Yes this is reality. I don't think I'm out of touch. Yes I'm taking the celebrity indecent assaults from the media because in real life I am yet to see a woman charge an average man with an assault from 40 years ago. The only ones that is happening to are celebrites and the church. The church is probably real but if there isn't money involved the charges aren't being laid.

How many false allegations go to court?

[Anonymous]

Cops are bitter because their wife gets 1/2 their pension because it’s a retirement fund.