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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think of this comes from the fact that women are more successful then ever in their own.  For a lot of women, the salary or job security of the man are not important at least at the initial stages of the relationship.  Dating sites bear this out, most of the women are chasing the top 20% of men.  Where does this leave men who are not attractive and do not have any other personal or economic success?   The easy thing for them to do is to blame feminism (typically defined as equality in the workplace) for the lack of their success.  They can claim that women are taking “their jobs” and not respecting them for their looks or any other quality that may have attracted a partner easily in the pass.  Obviously, there is a lot of flaws in this thinking.[/quote]

Female here:  If females are chasing only the top 20% of men do you think all those females are the top 20% of females.  Why should a male in the top 20% even look at an average female.  It doesn't matter if you make a lot of money as a female that doesn't' put you in the top 20% of females.  Women are still rated on looks alone and part of the problem is that most women out there are rating themselves an 8-10 when they are actually a 5.  With dating sites a man will pump and dump anyone, it doesn't mean he intends to pursue anything with that female.  So yes woman are all screwing the top 20% of males while the average males are left behind.

So previously where people equally paired up now females are expecting to pair up with the top 20%.  I think women do consider salary and money important it's constantly talked about on DCUM.  Then you have women chasing the bad boys and screwing them left, right and centre because now it's good for a woman to experience her sexual freedom.

In the end you have some men who are left behind.  I think perhaps they look around and can't find anything to date because the females are all so entitled thinking they deserve the top 20% and females are very promiscuous now, perhaps men are no longer finding that marriage material.[/quote]
You sound like a typical incel.

As PPs have noted, women now a days don't have to settle.   Yes, women want a catch. Are you telling me men will date and marry any woman, like an overweight woman who doesn't do any house chores and doesn't take time to groom herself, eat healthy and exercise?

Majority of house chores and child care fall on the woman, and that is why women want a man to make a lot of money.. because they know that at some point, they will have to bear that responsibility.  I make about the same as DH, but yes, I wanted a DH who made a decent amount so I could stay with the kids if I needed/wanted to because I know he was never going to be a sahd.  Even with DH doing some childcare/house chores, the mental load all fell on me. Working FT and taking on the majority of the house chores/child care was causing a lot of stress in our marriage.  So, I quit and became a sahm for a couple of years. Stress level went waaay down; we had a lot more sex.  I could  not have quit if DH wasn't making enough to support the family. I went back to work, and my income will enable DH to retire early.

If a man is getting left behind perhaps he should up his game. Women are now more educated than ever. We have choices. We don't have to settle like previous generations did, like my mother did.  My father treated her and continues to treat her like crap. Divorce is financially harder on the women than men because they are not paid as well as men on average. It was worse years ago.

I'm so grateful that I live in these times where I have choices, and where my DD too will have choices, and she won't have to settle. I hope she is financially independent so she can choose to marry or not, and if she does marry, she doesn't have to settle.[/quote]

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