Kid five grade levels ahead

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or read "the drama of the gifted child". Good luck.

The Drama of the Gifted Child is not even about "gifted children" in that sense, which you should know if you actually read it. Or are you just trying to waste op's time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - What you will find is that A LOT of kids in this area test at the 99% percentile and are 5 grades or more above the national average, particularly in "reading," which is kind of a nebulous topic.

Because there are a lot of smart, high achieving, kids in the area, your child likely has a peer group of similar kids. Nothing you have told us suggests profound giftedness, or a need for anything other than normal support for a bright kid.

Not been even close to my experience. Where are all these other kids? They are not at my child's school and I haven't found them at the playground, summer camps or in extra curriculars. It would be great to meet them. Kid would love a same age friend to share books and interests with instead of much older kids.

OP.

Where are you living right now? Obviously, not the DC area. So where?

[Anonymous]

OP, ask Jeff to move this to the forum for special needs or AAP. Posters there are really well equipped to give advice on next steps for gifted kids. A neuro psych eval is a good next step it seems, to get a really good sense of your child's intellectual range.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some answers:

Kid was part of a pre school research study, plus school testing since pre k, so lots of tests already.

Yes, the school testing does provide current grade equivalent.

Reading test includes comprehension, vocab etc. It's not just a decoding exercise.

Yes, child is currently doing (simple) algebra and plenty of math beyond my ability to recall.

Doesn't complain about being bored. Reads constantly (and yes, lots of non fiction - will happily read encyclopedias cover to cover). Does math for fun (long multiplication, calculating area, square root etc) without worksheets or homework. Asks lots of questions, sops up info like a sponge. Generally I think is doing just fine and doesn't need any extra support but sometimes I wonder if we should be doing more to challenge our child.

Thanks for the suggestions.

My answer to your question would depend on your child's IQ. I realize you're not in D.C. but in our area there are so many of these kids doing what you describe and they do just fine without any special instruction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I was unaware that reading levels were evident at the park. Does your kid seem super smart while doing the monkey bars?

+1 If you saw my super smart child at the playground he'd be telling potty jokes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some answers:

Kid was part of a pre school research study, plus school testing since pre k, so lots of tests already.

Yes, the school testing does provide current grade equivalent.

Reading test includes comprehension, vocab etc. It's not just a decoding exercise.

Yes, child is currently doing (simple) algebra and plenty of math beyond my ability to recall.

Doesn't complain about being bored. Reads constantly (and yes, lots of non fiction - will happily read encyclopedias cover to cover). Does math for fun (long multiplication, calculating area, square root etc) without worksheet

s or homework. Asks lots of questions, sops up info like a sponge. Generally I think is doing just fine and doesn't need any extra support but sometimes I wonder if we should be doing more to challenge our child.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Honestly, this doesn't sound reliable. I'm trying to be helpful. I have a kid with a very, very high iq. Testing from preschool wouldn't be considered clinically valid. The rest of what you're writing sounds kind of nebulous and/or not necessarily reliable either. Doing simple algebra problems is great...and I don't mean that in a pejorative way at all. I just think that you don't have true data points from what you've explained at least that confirm where your kid really is. Could he be there...maybe. We also see lots of kids classified as x or y level by tests that aren't accurate pictures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man, there are some bitter, jealous people on this thread lol!
-np

What a pathetic attempt at starting drama.
Try not being so blatantly obvious, troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, there are some bitter, jealous people on this thread lol!
-np

What a pathetic attempt at starting drama.
Try not being so blatantly obvious, troll.

I wasn't at all. I'm being totally serious. My child is below grade level. I clicked on the thread because I was impressed.

[Anonymous]

OP, your child is plenty challenged. It's obvious to me you've been doing a great job answering questions and exposing your child to higher level material. Otherwise how could he know what a square root is and calculate area? Just do more of what you are doing and he'll continue to be happy and "challenged."
The great thing about your child is that he isn't bored which means you have created an appropriate environment for him.

Many previous posters are raining a bit on your parade by questioning the accuracy of your assessment of your child. Please don't be offended by this. It's very natural for parents of early elementary kids to think their child is a brilliant. The gap between kids who have had involved parents who do things like take them to museums and read to them regularly and those that don't is very large at that age and when you look around your child will look very advanced. It's hard to tell at this point whether your child will continue to be a high flyer but if you want to explore this further I would suggest hopping over to the Davidson Gifted web site and posting the testing information in more detail and some of the people there can help you out. You're not going to find the answers you are looking for here. You'll mostly get snark here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
What a bunch of jealous suspicious types on here.

My children are similar to yours and are lucky to be in a gifted program in this area.
Be aware that testing several grades ahead does not necessarily mean that your child could do the whole curriculum for that upper grade. My son was reading at a 12th grade level since mid-elementary, but that did not mean he could have been parachuted in a 12th grade literature class at 9 years old!

OP, do you know whether your child's school could accommodate this by either letting him or her work on his own during class, or sending him (for math) to a different grade?

Alternatively, you can explore private school options which might be more accommodating, through smaller class sizes, or think about homeschooling your child.

The first thing you can do, however, is further investigate your child's abilities by doing a full neuropsychological evaluation.

Good luck - it's tough but exciting to have such a child!

NP here.
I haven't read any overly critical/snarky comments before mine, most were helpful & a few others were more on the inquisitive side of how the OP came to her conclusion about her child's percentile, tiredness, etc.

However, YOUR post says everything about YOU & how YOU perceived them. It's clear that you are hyper sensitive & believe you are being judged by others when it comes to your own brilliant child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, there are some bitter, jealous people on this thread lol!
-np

What a pathetic attempt at starting drama.
Try not being so blatantly obvious, troll.

I wasn't at all. I'm being totally serious. My child is below grade level. I clicked on the thread because I was impressed.

Maybe you should spend more of your time supplementing your child at home if they're falling behind, rather than hanging out on DCUM.
If my kid were below grade level, the last place I'd be at 7pm on a Saturday night is trolling on the internet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
What a bunch of jealous suspicious types on here.

My children are similar to yours and are lucky to be in a gifted program in this area.
Be aware that testing several grades ahead does not necessarily mean that your child could do the whole curriculum for that upper grade. My son was reading at a 12th grade level since mid-elementary, but that did not mean he could have been parachuted in a 12th grade literature class at 9 years old!

OP, do you know whether your child's school could accommodate this by either letting him or her work on his own during class, or sending him (for math) to a different grade?

Alternatively, you can explore private school options which might be more accommodating, through smaller class sizes, or think about homeschooling your child.

The first thing you can do, however, is further investigate your child's abilities by doing a full neuropsychological evaluation.

Good luck - it's tough but exciting to have such a child!

NP here.
I haven't read any overly critical/snarky comments before mine, most were helpful & a few others were more on the inquisitive side of how the OP came to her conclusion about her child's percentile, tiredness, etc.

However, YOUR post says everything about YOU & how YOU perceived them. It's clear that you are hyper sensitive & believe you are being judged by others when it comes to your own brilliant child.

* readiness NOT tiredness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Man, there are some bitter, jealous people on this thread lol!
-np

What a pathetic attempt at starting drama.
Try not being so blatantly obvious, troll.

I wasn't at all. I'm being totally serious. My child is below grade level. I clicked on the thread because I was impressed.

Maybe you should spend more of your time supplementing your child at home if they're falling behind, rather than hanging out on DCUM.
If my kid were below grade level, the last place I'd be at 7pm on a Saturday night is trolling on the internet.

So predictable, that response. Careful pp, there's a troll on this thread, but it isn't me.

[Anonymous]

OP here. I'm a pretty laid back parent and haven't given the tests that much thought over the years. Kid is clearly doing well. Occasionally I wonder/worry about what happens in later grades, hence my question.

We are in DC area.

As I said I haven't kept track of test results that closely. I can't tell you what different tests, except percentiles have been consistent since child thought themself to read age three. At some point one of the tests offered an IQ equivalent which I recall was in the mid 140s. Don't know how much stock to put in that. Surprised to hear this is commonplace in DC.

Thanks to the pp who mentioned the Neuro psych eval. I'll think about that, but also at this point am not sure further testing is what I want to do. Want kid to just be a kid and not on a path to college by 13 or some whizz kid math nerd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, ask Jeff to move this to the forum for special needs or AAP. Posters there are really well equipped to give advice on next steps for gifted kids. A neuro psych eval is a good next step it seems, to get a really good sense of your child's intellectual range.

Giftedness isn't a"special need" unless it is accompanied by LDs, communication disorder, etc. Not every gifted child is twice exceptional.