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"we never could have afforded to have kids unless I worked"
and maintain the lifestyle you wanted you mean? basically, when women say this, unless you're telling me he makes like $25,000, you're basically saying that you have chosen luxury items and cash over spending more time with your kids. |
I think for the sanity of all involved, which includes allowing for the man to be a leader within the family, yes, the man should have final word on these big life decisions such as moving. Not on all the other shit day to day or semi serious matters, but on the big big ones? Yes. Look what happens when they don't? This woman hates her sniveling man because (she doesn't recognize it maybe) she can in fact make him do what she wants and she gets her way. the "alpha" she dreams of surely wouldn't have let her decide where they were going to move against his desires. |
Um, no. When we had our child DH was making $65K and we lived in DC. Yes, I suppose we could have lived in a one-bedroom shit hole somewhere but yeah, I didn't bust my ass getting two degrees to basically live no better than I did growing up. And my mother didn't kill herself raising me for me to live hand to mouth, paycheck to paycheck either. Check your fucking lifestyle judgment bullshit at the door. If you think struggling is glamorous, go for it. I don't live some fancy lifestyle, but I'm not going to live like I'm 25 forever with no savings, no retirement funds, etc etc. So bite me. |
Oh boy. See you later everyone. The regressives have found my thread and I can't fucking go here. |
NP. Jesus Christ. No wonder your DH is depressed. Are you always so caustic? |
Only to assholes like you.
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| This is why I like alpha males. I absolutely hate insecure emasculated men. They're worthless both in the boardroom and the bedroom. They might as well bend over and join the other team. |
you don't have to live in DC, btw. $65,000 is more than plenty to live in the far suburbs and provide. You could work part time and supplement. You got your two degrees, amazing job btw!, so you could work hard and be an achiever. Good for you. But you should have realized that when you did that your $65k man would look like a schlub to you afterwards. Moms should teach their daughters that the pussy dries up when you think you're above your man. which includes being able to boss him into moving where you want. |
If OP's man were pushy and domineering, she'd be on here crying a completely different tune. I feel no sympathy for her. |
Look, if you think, as OP said, life is just all about "providing," then as she said go for it. There's a reason we push education and achievement in this country - because strong, thriving economies are dependent on it. Mediocrity and "providing" doesn't build a strong country. Just ask the communists. But don't give OP shit for doing well for herself. Her husband could be adding to his education and getting ahead at work. It even sounds like he wants to, but maybe doesn't know how. |
Is a wife's success "emasculating?" Seriously men, weigh in here. Why marry an intelligent, educated and accomplished woman if you are only going to act like babies when she does well, insisting that she's "emasculated" you? I don't get it. |
I personally dont find it emasculating, but then again, I'm a leader in my field. It would be hard to make my work seem insignificant in comparison. From what I have observed, its not the act of being successful that lesser men find emasculating, its the other attitudes that come with it. And I think the women themselves find themselves less interested in their men once the woman's success reaches greater highs. Women want to mate with men equal or better. No momma every says to their daughter 'I Hope you find someone who is less educated and less successful than you!" Women, even the educated working ones want to feel lead at times. When they feel like they are the "grown up" or the one doing the leading, everything breaks down. |
you know what you said can be translated into : "our economy depends on people being slaves to mortgages, student loans and trapped in their jobs so they keep spending and being good little consumers addicted to 'luxury' items" who wants to be a slave? |
Indeed. But do you find those alpha men give you what you need in terms of stable provisioning, parental investment, and fidelity? |
| Women are stupid. |