Omg you’re the SIL from hell. |
I had to pay off my parents PLUS loans too, as well as my deseral loans. I think the difference here is that nobody actually took out any loans. I wonder if the ILs are not on as stable financial footing as they project and that's why they want their DD to "pay them back"? I find this aspect of the situation weird. The rest is whatever, OP can always decline the fancy dinners and vacations. |
In fairness, the ILs sound like petty cheapskates who think they can mooch off their rich SIL. Sounds like a plot for Real Housewives or something. |
No one made her choose the undergrad she did. It sounds like she knew her parents were loaning her the money so that’s on her. You sound like an entitled patriarchal snob regarding money, especially as you reference how you’re funding her low paying degree. That was a marital decision. You clearly think your family is superior to hers. Pay back her undergrad and decline vacations you can’t afford or choose not to take. |
| What a petty man you are!! |
PP. The idea of this "loan" is likely her father's comment on the usefulness of spending $200K on this degree. There is obviously an attempt here to "teach" something to the daughter. You and your norms from your family of origin are external to it. Whether the lesson seems ridiculous to you is kind of beside the point. It's not unusual for parents to try and get kids to pay for their college. Even rich ones. From my observation, it does take several generations of wealth to create the kind of family generosity engine that you have benefitted from. An 18 year old is an adult. It may be the case that your wife could have picked a less expensive college and that a $200K education was an expensive choice she made as an adult. Her father may view that education as a pure luxury that she chose, knowing her career could never pay it back. As a self-made blue collar person, perhaps he did not agree with her path, despite providing the up-front money to fund it. The more interesting thing here is that you appear to have signed up for an asymmetric financial relationship with your wife. Therefore, you will always be transferring your money (which you consider subsidized by your family's gifts) to cover your wife's expenses. You clearly do not see her as a 50% partner in your money since you do not want to fund the things that she would probably spend money on related to her parents if you did not object. It sounds like she has transferred her loyalty from one controlling man to another. That's why my sister and have chosen to remain high-earning working mothers. We don't want this kind of money-based financial dependency and guilt in our lives. |
+1 OP has no educational debt, no mortgage, and works in a high paying field. Most young doctors spend decades paying off their loans, but OP is complaining about dinner? |
This. For the first part of the post, I was prepared to side with OP, but then it really went sideways. His complaints appear to be that: - His FIL made an arrangement with his wife re financing her education that OP didn't like, and so he reneged on it when they married. That's a complaint that the FIL should have, not OP. - His FIL doesn't pay for him when they vacation and or eat at expensive restaurants. In the immortal words of Cameron, "Pardon my French, but you're an a$$hole!" |
It is truly astonishing that you felt like this missive would help your cause, or cast you in a favorable light. Good lord. |
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Did everyone miss this gem?
"I feel it is essentially my parents/grandparents subsidizing him because they paid for my medical school which is the only reason I can afford to pay for these trips. " This is so effed up. It actually mirrors plantation wealth and entitlement and inequities today. That's like Cora Crawley in Downton Abbey saying "No Grantham, the Levinson dry good business is why I'm so rich and I won't have my dry goods daddy paying off your debts" |
Maybe, maybe not- I'm one of the PPs that had to pay back my parents' Plus loans and that was not communicated to me until after I graduated and they realized they couldn't pay them back. The problem for the wife in this case was that because her parents were wealthy, she wouldn't have qualified for federal loans or other need based aid. I can understand not wanting to spend $200k on college but parents could have told her what they were willing to spend and helped her choose a more affordable option. I just can't imagine williningly saddling my own child with that kind of debt if I didn't have to. If she hadn't married rich that debt to her parents would define so much of her young adulthood. It's a weird look for people who apparently spend lavishly on other fronts. OP sounds like a snob but the ILs don't sound so great either- two things can be true. |
| Do you have kids? |
| What kind of doctor are you, OP? Psychiatrist? |
| How often is this dining experience? Split the check. You have plenty of money. They know that. Don't squabble about who is presenting as the more ethical rich guy. |
That's debatable- an 18yo is too young to do a lot of things, and they would never be able to take out this amount on their own. Blue collar dad should never have funded the path if he didn't agree with it. |