Why is the younger generation of men more conservative than in the past?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they've been demonized their entire lives. Straight male bashing is enough vogue with the Democratic party. Have you been on a college campus recently? They pretty much start new student orientations with the presumption that all males = rapists or rapists in waiting during the gender identity and sexual orientation sensitivity training portion of the program. They spend inordinate amounts of time in schools now trying to indoctrinate them they cis gendered males = bad!


That's pretty much my white college boys experience. He's tired of being seen as the problem. Most of his friends are the same. I also disagree with the trad wife expectation, my kid fully understands the economy and how it operates. It didn't help that his HS experience ended during COVID in FCPS with all the crazy prolonged shut downs.


My white college boy doesn’t feel that at all. His professors are mostly white men and the students in his science classes are majority white men. The place he interned over the summer had a majority white men staff with the leadership being mostly white men. He lives in a state with a white male governor and the majority of politicians in power in that state are white men. As he said to me, I don’t see the effects of male oppression in action here.


That’s because he hangs out largely with rich people and he himself is rich.

Current DEI is largely an anti-labor movement (how many of those identity-obsessed universities would welcome students whose primary identity is “working class,” not a race- or gender-based identity?). So, the wealthy privileged white men are fine. But the much larger population of men is not.

What OP is talking about is actually a class-based issue, but the identity-based philosophy pushed by current elites is specifically designed to break any solidarity between groups that might naturally otherwise ally, weakening labor. That leaves working class and poor men with few options, and so they turn to sympathetic ears such as the Tate brothers.
Anonymous
It must be weird to learn that a penis doesn’t mean as much these days. Imagine what it’s like to live with a uterus? You don’t even have a say as to what goes in or out of it. Oh wait. Like it’s always been.


Zero tears for the boys. It’s long past time we all behaved with empathy and consideration for everyone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they've been demonized their entire lives. Straight male bashing is enough vogue with the Democratic party. Have you been on a college campus recently? They pretty much start new student orientations with the presumption that all males = rapists or rapists in waiting during the gender identity and sexual orientation sensitivity training portion of the program. They spend inordinate amounts of time in schools now trying to indoctrinate them they cis gendered males = bad!



This is actually very true. I have two boys. Mostly they roll their eyes with all the gender and sensitivity and CIS and white privilege indoctrination they've been receiving since middle school. But it shouldn't be surprising that straight boys who have spent their entire formative years being told they are oppressors end up rebelling. Telling a bunch of 13 year olds that they are responsible for all the evil in the world throughout history isn't particularly helpful. It is going to lead to a very human response. Progressives have been demonizing straight, white boys for a long time. So these boys figure if the left hates them, then they'll explore a different team. Pretty simple.


100% true!
I would take note that its not just straight white boys-- it goes from straight white, to straight boys, to just boys in general. You can and should lift all groups, not lift some at the expense of the others. Life and this is not a zero some game!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they've been demonized their entire lives. Straight male bashing is enough vogue with the Democratic party. Have you been on a college campus recently? They pretty much start new student orientations with the presumption that all males = rapists or rapists in waiting during the gender identity and sexual orientation sensitivity training portion of the program. They spend inordinate amounts of time in schools now trying to indoctrinate them they cis gendered males = bad!



This is actually very true. I have two boys. Mostly they roll their eyes with all the gender and sensitivity and CIS and white privilege indoctrination they've been receiving since middle school. But it shouldn't be surprising that straight boys who have spent their entire formative years being told they are oppressors end up rebelling. Telling a bunch of 13 year olds that they are responsible for all the evil in the world throughout history isn't particularly helpful. It is going to lead to a very human response. Progressives have been demonizing straight, white boys for a long time. So these boys figure if the left hates them, then they'll explore a different team. Pretty simple.


Weird you let your kids be brought up this way and then blame the schools. What responsibility do you take as a parent?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:they are not, they are sick of the "feel good" stories of dems. "hey look I cant even buy a house or car and live with my parents"


But why do they think that is different from their parent's experience? Who is lying to them about that (rhetorical question obviously)? My boys don't expect that because their parents had to work long and hard for those things so they know they will too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It must be weird to learn that a penis doesn’t mean as much these days. Imagine what it’s like to live with a uterus? You don’t even have a say as to what goes in or out of it. Oh wait. Like it’s always been.


Zero tears for the boys. It’s long past time we all behaved with empathy and consideration for everyone.


You see the ludicrous hypocrisy of your last statement, right?

"Empathy and consideration for everyone"! Except males.

That's EXACTLY the problem.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:TikTok


This. Social Media telling them it's so unfair.


Where are the parents? It's your job to set them straight and teach them how to vet their sources. My boys know better because we taught them better.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My white Gen Z boys and all of their friends are Democrats. The acquaintances they have who are republicans are finance bros who want more more more and very religious dudes. Same as it ever was.

None of them are dumb enough to buy the BS that PP posts.


Except here's actual data rather than useless anecdotes:

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/28/gen-z-men-conservative-poll


I can't open that, but in any case, my anecdata matters because if it isn't all boys then it doesn't have to be any. It's about influence.
Anonymous
Stuff gets real when "give women and colored people more rights" starts to put some women and colored people over white men.

It's easier to be politically pro-equality while you still retain privileges.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they've been demonized their entire lives. Straight male bashing is enough vogue with the Democratic party. Have you been on a college campus recently? They pretty much start new student orientations with the presumption that all males = rapists or rapists in waiting during the gender identity and sexual orientation sensitivity training portion of the program. They spend inordinate amounts of time in schools now trying to indoctrinate them they cis gendered males = bad!


That's pretty much my white college boys experience. He's tired of being seen as the problem. Most of his friends are the same. I also disagree with the trad wife expectation, my kid fully understands the economy and how it operates. It didn't help that his HS experience ended during COVID in FCPS with all the crazy prolonged shut downs.


My white college boy doesn’t feel that at all. His professors are mostly white men and the students in his science classes are majority white men. The place he interned over the summer had a majority white men staff with the leadership being mostly white men. He lives in a state with a white male governor and the majority of politicians in power in that state are white men. As he said to me, I don’t see the effects of male oppression in action here.


That’s because he hangs out largely with rich people and he himself is rich.

Current DEI is largely an anti-labor movement (how many of those identity-obsessed universities would welcome students whose primary identity is “working class,” not a race- or gender-based identity?). So, the wealthy privileged white men are fine. But the much larger population of men is not.

What OP is talking about is actually a class-based issue, but the identity-based philosophy pushed by current elites is specifically designed to break any solidarity between groups that might naturally otherwise ally, weakening labor. That leaves working class and poor men with few options, and so they turn to sympathetic ears such as the Tate brothers.


JD Vance was literally the "white working class Appalachia" DEI admit to Yale Law. So that already proves your premise wrong

Elite universities absolutely love to recruit working class white young men with the scores to get into elite programs. It's like finding a needle in a haystack, unfortunately. Same issue with finding low-income black and Latino kids who have the scores and can handle the culture shock - needle in a haystack.

Why do you think "geographic diversity" exists at elite universities. It mostly benefits white kids from rural states.
Anonymous
DCUM is such a blind wealthy bubble sometimes. These toxic angry posts from aggrieved wealthy women are wild.

OP, hang out in poorer areas and the answer to you question will be obvious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TikTok


This. Social Media telling them it's so unfair.


Where are the parents? It's your job to set them straight and teach them how to vet their sources. My boys know better because we taught them better.


How do you vet your sources?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DCUM is such a blind wealthy bubble sometimes. These toxic angry posts from aggrieved wealthy women are wild.

OP, hang out in poorer areas and the answer to you question will be obvious.



Explain it to us.

Why are poor 20 year olds more conservative than poor 27 year olds?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they've been demonized their entire lives. Straight male bashing is enough vogue with the Democratic party. Have you been on a college campus recently? They pretty much start new student orientations with the presumption that all males = rapists or rapists in waiting during the gender identity and sexual orientation sensitivity training portion of the program. They spend inordinate amounts of time in schools now trying to indoctrinate them they cis gendered males = bad!


That's pretty much my white college boys experience. He's tired of being seen as the problem. Most of his friends are the same. I also disagree with the trad wife expectation, my kid fully understands the economy and how it operates. It didn't help that his HS experience ended during COVID in FCPS with all the crazy prolonged shut downs.


My white college boy doesn’t feel that at all. His professors are mostly white men and the students in his science classes are majority white men. The place he interned over the summer had a majority white men staff with the leadership being mostly white men. He lives in a state with a white male governor and the majority of politicians in power in that state are white men. As he said to me, I don’t see the effects of male oppression in action here.


That’s because he hangs out largely with rich people and he himself is rich.

Current DEI is largely an anti-labor movement (how many of those identity-obsessed universities would welcome students whose primary identity is “working class,” not a race- or gender-based identity?). So, the wealthy privileged white men are fine. But the much larger population of men is not.

What OP is talking about is actually a class-based issue, but the identity-based philosophy pushed by current elites is specifically designed to break any solidarity between groups that might naturally otherwise ally, weakening labor. That leaves working class and poor men with few options, and so they turn to sympathetic ears such as the Tate brothers.


JD Vance was literally the "white working class Appalachia" DEI admit to Yale Law. So that already proves your premise wrong

Elite universities absolutely love to recruit working class white young men with the scores to get into elite programs. It's like finding a needle in a haystack, unfortunately. Same issue with finding low-income black and Latino kids who have the scores and can handle the culture shock - needle in a haystack.

Why do you think "geographic diversity" exists at elite universities. It mostly benefits white kids from rural states.


You’re out of touch. Sorry. You are just so immersed in your anti-labor elitism that you can’t see it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because they've been demonized their entire lives. Straight male bashing is enough vogue with the Democratic party. Have you been on a college campus recently? They pretty much start new student orientations with the presumption that all males = rapists or rapists in waiting during the gender identity and sexual orientation sensitivity training portion of the program. They spend inordinate amounts of time in schools now trying to indoctrinate them they cis gendered males = bad!


That's pretty much my white college boys experience. He's tired of being seen as the problem. Most of his friends are the same. I also disagree with the trad wife expectation, my kid fully understands the economy and how it operates. It didn't help that his HS experience ended during COVID in FCPS with all the crazy prolonged shut downs.


My white college boy doesn’t feel that at all. His professors are mostly white men and the students in his science classes are majority white men. The place he interned over the summer had a majority white men staff with the leadership being mostly white men. He lives in a state with a white male governor and the majority of politicians in power in that state are white men. As he said to me, I don’t see the effects of male oppression in action here.


That’s because he hangs out largely with rich people and he himself is rich.

Current DEI is largely an anti-labor movement (how many of those identity-obsessed universities would welcome students whose primary identity is “working class,” not a race- or gender-based identity?). So, the wealthy privileged white men are fine. But the much larger population of men is not.

What OP is talking about is actually a class-based issue, but the identity-based philosophy pushed by current elites is specifically designed to break any solidarity between groups that might naturally otherwise ally, weakening labor. That leaves working class and poor men with few options, and so they turn to sympathetic ears such as the Tate brothers.


JD Vance was literally the "white working class Appalachia" DEI admit to Yale Law. So that already proves your premise wrong

Elite universities absolutely love to recruit working class white young men with the scores to get into elite programs. It's like finding a needle in a haystack, unfortunately. Same issue with finding low-income black and Latino kids who have the scores and can handle the culture shock - needle in a haystack.

Why do you think "geographic diversity" exists at elite universities. It mostly benefits white kids from rural states.


You’re out of touch. Sorry. You are just so immersed in your anti-labor elitism that you can’t see it.


LOL I'm literally part of a collective bargaining unit
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