Anyone here “underperformed” according to their potential?

[Anonymous]

I guess this is a warning to future DCUM parents: please put more pressure on your kid socially than academically. There is so much talk about colleges and AAP and GPA and SAT scores in this forum, but not enough about helping your kid develop the social skills necessary for success.

Based on your sample of one experimental run that is still in its early stages, vs the evidence of my own life?

Sorry, but I will not be taking this advice.

[lmaple]

Anonymous wrote:Have patience. She’ll get sick of the low salary and eventually land a job in corporate communications. Sounds like she has solid writing skills, and neuroscience was a good second major, so maybe she’ll put that to use at a large corporation in a few years.

How much does corporate communications pay? Is that like being a copywriter? Aren’t those jobs all disappearing thanks to ChatGPT and AI? And isn’t communications an even lower paying field than journalism unless you become an exec?

And neuroscience was not a good second major — the only jobs that prefer neuroscience knowledge are all low-paying research positions.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s always so ironic when mothers (maybe fathers do it too, but I don’t know any) criticize their daughter’s career when the moms themselves had awful or no career, provided none of the soft skills, life guidance or connections. Really ironic. OP the loser should work on improving her own career.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

lmaple wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Journalism is never going to pay well.
If she wants cash she needs to go into consulting, they love college level athletes with science and engineering degrees, and get a network of people that can give her a job after 2-5 years if she doesn’t like working that hard long term.

OP here. I encouraged her to go into consulting but she refused, which was frustrating.

She played a sport in HS but not in college. Her personality is almost the opposite of the “Alpha College Athlete” type — she is introverted and bookish, and not gregarious at all.

In retrospect, I regret focusing so much on academics and wish I pushed her into team sports more so she could’ve developed the social skills and connections that are necessary for success.

I guess this is a warning to future DCUM parents: please put more pressure on your kid socially than academically. There is so much talk about colleges and AAP and GPA and SAT scores in this forum, but not enough about helping your kid develop the social skills necessary for success.

All this drivel because a 25 year old is making 70k? You are nuts.

I made 60k when I was 25…which was 25 years ago. To make that as a 25 year old now is really nuts.

[lmaple]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

lmaple wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Journalism is never going to pay well.
If she wants cash she needs to go into consulting, they love college level athletes with science and engineering degrees, and get a network of people that can give her a job after 2-5 years if she doesn’t like working that hard long term.

OP here. I encouraged her to go into consulting but she refused, which was frustrating.

She played a sport in HS but not in college. Her personality is almost the opposite of the “Alpha College Athlete” type — she is introverted and bookish, and not gregarious at all.

In retrospect, I regret focusing so much on academics and wish I pushed her into team sports more so she could’ve developed the social skills and connections that are necessary for success.

I guess this is a warning to future DCUM parents: please put more pressure on your kid socially than academically. There is so much talk about colleges and AAP and GPA and SAT scores in this forum, but not enough about helping your kid develop the social skills necessary for success.

All this drivel because a 25 year old is making 70k? You are nuts.

I made 60k when I was 25…which was 25 years ago. To make that as a 25 year old now is really nuts.

This is exactly what I’m saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Journalism is a HIGHLY competitive field where people are often expected to "pay dues" through low-paying jobs in order to build their reputation and portfolio to qualify for higher-paying jobs later. Does she have long-term goals she's working toward?

There's also nothing wrong with wanting more from work than money. Don't devalue her accomplishments by only looking at salary.

You are speaking from the past. News jobs now are where you graduated from, and kind of how Woke you are. You don't pay your dues any longer. That is very depressing concept, since I'm now in my mid 50s, that is what it used to be like when I dated a journalist making $14k a year in Small town, Arkansas. She worked hard, lots of interviews and reports, and now it is where you graduated from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

lmaple wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Journalism is never going to pay well.
If she wants cash she needs to go into consulting, they love college level athletes with science and engineering degrees, and get a network of people that can give her a job after 2-5 years if she doesn’t like working that hard long term.

OP here. I encouraged her to go into consulting but she refused, which was frustrating.

She played a sport in HS but not in college. Her personality is almost the opposite of the “Alpha College Athlete” type — she is introverted and bookish, and not gregarious at all.

In retrospect, I regret focusing so much on academics and wish I pushed her into team sports more so she could’ve developed the social skills and connections that are necessary for success.

I guess this is a warning to future DCUM parents: please put more pressure on your kid socially than academically. There is so much talk about colleges and AAP and GPA and SAT scores in this forum, but not enough about helping your kid develop the social skills necessary for success.

All this drivel because a 25 year old is making 70k? You are nuts.

I made 60k when I was 25…which was 25 years ago. To make that as a 25 year old now is really nuts.

And my husband made 60K at 37 in 2019, despite having academic credentials much like OP's daughter. The world isn't all massive salaries at DCUM approved jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have patience. She’ll get sick of the low salary and eventually land a job in corporate communications. Sounds like she has solid writing skills, and neuroscience was a good second major, so maybe she’ll put that to use at a large corporation in a few years.

This was me. My first journalism job paid $40k back in the late 90s. I switched to corporate communications in 2009 and my current salary puts me in the top 2 percentile of household incomes. I love having control of my time and being able to afford things for my kids.

[lmaple]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have patience. She’ll get sick of the low salary and eventually land a job in corporate communications. Sounds like she has solid writing skills, and neuroscience was a good second major, so maybe she’ll put that to use at a large corporation in a few years.

This was me. My first journalism job paid $40k back in the late 90s. I switched to corporate communications in 2009 and my current salary puts me in the top 2 percentile of household incomes. I love having control of my time and being able to afford things for my kids.

Isn’t corporate comms a dying field thanks to OpenAI and ChatGPT? I mean, writing in general is pretty much dead.

[Anonymous]

Honestly this thread is making me, a 38 year old woman with a career and family who has nothing to prove, feel anxious and judged. Poor OP's daughter!

[Anonymous]

Consulting is success to you? Do you know what consultants do? Most of the time they are helping businesses find an excuse for a mass layoff. I mean, really, bottom feeders.

I was indoctrinated that anything other than being a scientist, doctor, lawyer or tech owner was failure. Just simply not true.

[Anonymous]

lmaple wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have patience. She’ll get sick of the low salary and eventually land a job in corporate communications. Sounds like she has solid writing skills, and neuroscience was a good second major, so maybe she’ll put that to use at a large corporation in a few years.

This was me. My first journalism job paid $40k back in the late 90s. I switched to corporate communications in 2009 and my current salary puts me in the top 2 percentile of household incomes. I love having control of my time and being able to afford things for my kids.

Isn’t corporate comms a dying field thanks to OpenAI and ChatGPT? I mean, writing in general is pretty much dead.

It's not all writing. It's also about designing communication strategies, engaging in media relations, organizing high-level events, etc. And the writing itself is varied: talking points, social media, speeches, Op-Eds, articles.

[Anonymous]

lmaple wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have patience. She’ll get sick of the low salary and eventually land a job in corporate communications. Sounds like she has solid writing skills, and neuroscience was a good second major, so maybe she’ll put that to use at a large corporation in a few years.

This was me. My first journalism job paid $40k back in the late 90s. I switched to corporate communications in 2009 and my current salary puts me in the top 2 percentile of household incomes. I love having control of my time and being able to afford things for my kids.

Isn’t corporate comms a dying field thanks to OpenAI and ChatGPT? I mean, writing in general is pretty much dead.

No, writing in general isn't dead. Your trolling is tiring and you're a terrible human being. Buzz off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

lmaple wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have patience. She’ll get sick of the low salary and eventually land a job in corporate communications. Sounds like she has solid writing skills, and neuroscience was a good second major, so maybe she’ll put that to use at a large corporation in a few years.

This was me. My first journalism job paid $40k back in the late 90s. I switched to corporate communications in 2009 and my current salary puts me in the top 2 percentile of household incomes. I love having control of my time and being able to afford things for my kids.

Isn’t corporate comms a dying field thanks to OpenAI and ChatGPT? I mean, writing in general is pretty much dead.

It's not all writing. It's also about designing communication strategies, engaging in media relations, organizing high-level events, etc. And the writing itself is varied: talking points, social media, speeches, Op-Eds, articles.

OP is a miserable human being.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Consulting is success to you? Do you know what consultants do? Most of the time they are helping businesses find an excuse for a mass layoff. I mean, really, bottom feeders.

I was indoctrinated that anything other than being a scientist, doctor, lawyer or tech owner was failure. Just simply not true.

Most of the consulting firms are doing layoffs.