Nope, Vincent Gray's Not Arrogant At All

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And this poll:

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2010/07/08/fenty-leads-gray-by-6-points-in-blade-poll/


And, as I said in my post, the Gertrude Stein Democratic Club (gay & lesbian democratic committee) straw poll: Gray 63% - Fenty 37% http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dc/2010/06/gertrude_stein_club_endorses_g.html
Anonymous
And let's not forget that Fenty has barely broken into his war chest yet. You can expect to see plenty of fire from him come September. This is a young and energetic man you're talking about. He's out knocking on doors every day. If Gray tried to do that -- even for an hour -- he'd probably collapse and be carted off in an ambulance. People love a personal visit from the Mayor. Fenty has been a competitor all his life. At the age of 40, he's competing in triathalons and can run a 6:43 minute mile. Hardly a man prepared to go down without a highly strategic, well-financed, and nasty fight. We are far from the finish line.

You sound like a little kid -- all excited, carrying your signs. You've watched out, and you haven't cried, and you've been good. But you've got high hopes for Santa Claus. And you're going to be very disappointed come Christmas.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And could you please point to "every single poll" that shows Gray as ahead?

I think you'll find it difficult. Let's start with this poll:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2010/07/06/poll-shows-fenty-beating-gray-in-ward-1/


Nope, not difficult at all.
Every single citywide straw poll conducted so far shows Gray beting Fenty. They also show more people disapprove of Fenty's job performance than approve.
And, Gray has won almost every official straw poll conducted so far.


Washington Post poll on Fenty's Approval ratings: Approve 42% - Disapprove 49% http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...010/01/30/AR2010013002452.html
Washington Post poll: Gray 35% - Fenty 31%
Clarus Research poll on Fenty's approval ratings: Approve 42% - Disapprove 48% http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/clarus-pol...g-of-snow-storms-84940057.html
Clarus Research poll: Gray 41% - Fenty 37% http://dcist.com/2009/11/grey_would_beat_fenty_poll_finds.php
DC Metropolitan Labor Council poll: Gray 43% - Fenty 39% http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/Gray-eyes-...est-poll-8624808-78467842.html
DC Democratic Committee citywide straw poll: Gray 703 - Fenty 190 http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Straw-P...Gray-beat-Fenty--96245244.html
Ward 3 Democratic Committee straw poll: Gray 174 - Fenty 168 http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dc/2010/06/gray_wins_over_fenty_in_ward_3.html
Gertrude Stein Democratic Club (gay & lesbian democratic committee) straw poll: Gray 63% - Fenty 37%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He's not. See you in September, chump.


He's not avoiding his opponents? How about this: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Fenty-S...ips-More-Debates-98510204.html

Whoops! Don't you hate when facts get in the way of rhetoric?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And could you please point to "every single poll" that shows Gray as ahead?

I think you'll find it difficult. Let's start with this poll:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2010/07/06/poll-shows-fenty-beating-gray-in-ward-1/


Nope, not difficult at all.
Every single citywide straw poll conducted so far shows Gray beting Fenty. They also show more people disapprove of Fenty's job performance than approve.
And, Gray has won almost every official straw poll conducted so far.


Washington Post poll on Fenty's Approval ratings: Approve 42% - Disapprove 49% http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...010/01/30/AR2010013002452.html
Washington Post poll: Gray 35% - Fenty 31%

Most of these polls are from many months back. The ones I have cited are recent.

As for the Ward 3 straw poll: It took two weeks for those results to be released. Because people from other Wards voted for Gray under an assumed identity or address. Only 350 people attended the event. During the event, which I attended, Gray told the residents of Ward 3, with not just a touch of sarcasm, " I know you guys are concerned about your home values. And with the education of your children. And I have nothing against all of that. I'm not going to take away from any of that. But I think other Wards need more help. So don't expect to see any more of that once I become Mayor."

Way to win a Ward. Give their residents the finger.

I live in Ward 3. I walk my dog for miles in Ward 3 as I, like the Mayor (and unlike his opponent) like to stay in shape. I have many different routes. No matter which one I take, I seen too many Fenty signs to count. They are everywhere. I've seen one sign for Gray. Gray won a straw poll attended by 350 people by 4 votes. If you think that is any indicator as to what thousands of Ward 3 residents are going to do come September -- well, I'd say not only that you've drawn up a big list for Santa Claus: It appears you believe in him, too.
Clarus Research poll on Fenty's approval ratings: Approve 42% - Disapprove 48% http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/clarus-pol...g-of-snow-storms-84940057.html
Clarus Research poll: Gray 41% - Fenty 37% http://dcist.com/2009/11/grey_would_beat_fenty_poll_finds.php
DC Metropolitan Labor Council poll: Gray 43% - Fenty 39% http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/Gray-eyes-...est-poll-8624808-78467842.html
DC Democratic Committee citywide straw poll: Gray 703 - Fenty 190 http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Straw-P...Gray-beat-Fenty--96245244.html
Ward 3 Democratic Committee straw poll: Gray 174 - Fenty 168 http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dc/2010/06/gray_wins_over_fenty_in_ward_3.html
Gertrude Stein Democratic Club (gay & lesbian democratic committee) straw poll: Gray 63% - Fenty 37%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And this poll:

http://mobile.dcist.com/2010/05/fenty_outmaneuvers_gray_at_ward_8_s.php


Actually, Gray was declared the winner of the Ward 8 straw poll. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Wdgsk8VYAq8J:www.washingtoninformer.com/%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D3679:gray-wins-ward-8-democrats-straw-poll%26catid%3D50:local%26Itemid%3D113%26fontstyle%3Df-larger+site:washingtoninformer.com+washington+informer+ward+8+straw+poll&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


He was declared the winner initially. But when some votes cast later that day were counted, Fenty bested Gray.


Actually, not true. The Ward 8 Democratic Committee put out a press release later declaring Gray the winner because those later votes were disqualified. It was Fenty campaign shenanigans.

But that also doesn't change the fact that every single citywide poll shows Gray winning.
Anonymous
Why is so much oxygen being wasted on the relative "fitness" levels of the candidates? Yea, Fenty is younger and in better shape. But it's not like Gray is a picture of excess. He's an older man. He's not as active as Fenty. I could see how potential health concerns MIGHT be a factor if they are extreme, but it just seems like petty nonsense.

Next we'll hear people tout Gray because he has hair, before being rebutted by those identifying Fenty as BBC (bald by choice).
Anonymous
Individual Wards don't matter all that much. We need to look city wide, because those are the numbers that matter. Has a district-wide poll been conducted?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He's not. See you in September, chump.


He's not avoiding his opponents? How about this: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Fenty-S...ips-More-Debates-98510204.html

Whoops! Don't you hate when facts get in the way of rhetoric?


You're the one having problems assembling facts. It's a tough, busy job being Mayor. Things come up. He has many things to do other than attend every single debate. Really. He's probably a bit bored by it all, and I can't say I blame him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Individual Wards don't matter all that much. We need to look city wide, because those are the numbers that matter. Has a district-wide poll been conducted?


Yes.


Washington Post poll on Fenty's Approval ratings: Approve 42% - Disapprove 49% http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...010/01/30/AR2010013002452.html
Washington Post poll: Gray 35% - Fenty 31%
Clarus Research poll on Fenty's approval ratings: Approve 42% - Disapprove 48% http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/clarus-pol...g-of-snow-storms-84940057.html
Clarus Research poll: Gray 41% - Fenty 37% http://dcist.com/2009/11/grey_would_beat_fenty_poll_finds.php
DC Metropolitan Labor Council poll: Gray 43% - Fenty 39% http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/Gray-eyes-...est-poll-8624808-78467842.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Individual Wards don't matter all that much. We need to look city wide, because those are the numbers that matter. Has a district-wide poll been conducted?


I agree with you. But no, no city-wide polls have been taken in months. Unless you count the Blade poll, which has Fenty ahead.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And could you please point to "every single poll" that shows Gray as ahead?

I think you'll find it difficult. Let's start with this poll:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2010/07/06/poll-shows-fenty-beating-gray-in-ward-1/


Nope, not difficult at all.
Every single citywide straw poll conducted so far shows Gray beting Fenty. They also show more people disapprove of Fenty's job performance than approve.
And, Gray has won almost every official straw poll conducted so far.


Washington Post poll on Fenty's Approval ratings: Approve 42% - Disapprove 49% http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...010/01/30/AR2010013002452.html
Washington Post poll: Gray 35% - Fenty 31%

Most of these polls are from many months back. The ones I have cited are recent.

As for the Ward 3 straw poll: It took two weeks for those results to be released. Because people from other Wards voted for Gray under an assumed identity or address. Only 350 people attended the event. During the event, which I attended, Gray told the residents of Ward 3, with not just a touch of sarcasm, " I know you guys are concerned about your home values. And with the education of your children. And I have nothing against all of that. I'm not going to take away from any of that. But I think other Wards need more help. So don't expect to see any more of that once I become Mayor."

Way to win a Ward. Give their residents the finger.

I live in Ward 3. I walk my dog for miles in Ward 3 as I, like the Mayor (and unlike his opponent) like to stay in shape. I have many different routes. No matter which one I take, I seen too many Fenty signs to count. They are everywhere. I've seen one sign for Gray. Gray won a straw poll attended by 350 people by 4 votes. If you think that is any indicator as to what thousands of Ward 3 residents are going to do come September -- well, I'd say not only that you've drawn up a big list for Santa Claus: It appears you believe in him, too.
Clarus Research poll on Fenty's approval ratings: Approve 42% - Disapprove 48% http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/clarus-pol...g-of-snow-storms-84940057.html
Clarus Research poll: Gray 41% - Fenty 37% http://dcist.com/2009/11/grey_would_beat_fenty_poll_finds.php
DC Metropolitan Labor Council poll: Gray 43% - Fenty 39% http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/Gray-eyes-...est-poll-8624808-78467842.html
DC Democratic Committee citywide straw poll: Gray 703 - Fenty 190 http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Straw-P...Gray-beat-Fenty--96245244.html
Ward 3 Democratic Committee straw poll: Gray 174 - Fenty 168 http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dc/2010/06/gray_wins_over_fenty_in_ward_3.html
Gertrude Stein Democratic Club (gay & lesbian democratic committee) straw poll: Gray 63% - Fenty 37%



I actually agree with you. Fenty will win Ward 3 big. That straw poll was not an accurate reflection. But if you think Fenty winning the Ward 8 straw poll by a couple of votes (which were then disqualified) is a true reflection of his support in Ward 8, you're delusional.

Gray leads citywide. That's an undisputed fact. You have not shown anything to the contrary.
And if you want to look at ward by ward:
Ward 1 -- there's been 1 poll that shows Fenty with a slight lead. As the Washington Post reported, that's a problem for him. He needs a big lead.
Ward 2 -- Fenty will win.
Ward 3 -- Fenty will win.
Ward 4 -- Numerous media outlets have reported that Fenty is in big trouble in the ward he used to represent. It's the biggest ward, and Gray looks to be leading there.
Ward 5 -- Gray will win.
Ward 6 -- Another battleground, but slight Gray lead.
Ward 7 -- Gray will win.
Ward 8 -- Gray will win.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And this poll:

http://mobile.dcist.com/2010/05/fenty_outmaneuvers_gray_at_ward_8_s.php


Actually, Gray was declared the winner of the Ward 8 straw poll. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Wdgsk8VYAq8J:www.washingtoninformer.com/%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D3679:gray-wins-ward-8-democrats-straw-poll%26catid%3D50:local%26Itemid%3D113%26fontstyle%3Df-larger+site:washingtoninformer.com+washington+informer+ward+8+straw+poll&cd=6&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a


He was declared the winner initially. But when some votes cast later that day were counted, Fenty bested Gray.


Actually, not true. The Ward 8 Democratic Committee put out a press release later declaring Gray the winner because those later votes were disqualified. It was Fenty campaign shenanigans.


Wishful thinking, but you're wrong. Which explains your inability to find a citation. The article I posted had it right, Gray was declared the winner initially. But when all the votes were counted, Fenty won.
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