Nope, Vincent Gray's Not Arrogant At All

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If that is not a supreme indicator of profound arrogance, I don't know what is.

Umm, how about this? "A vehicle assigned to the mayor currently has $770 in unpaid fines while a vehicle designated for Rhee has $345. "As of the date of this report, the fines had not been paid," auditor Deborah K. Nichols wrote."
Talk about thinking you're above the law????

Or even worst, the $82 million in city contracts given to the Mayor's unqualified fraternity brother, without Council approval?

Yep, that seems like the supreme indicator of profound arrogance to me.

No. Racking up parking tickets is kind of normal. Cutting the line is a sign of arrogance. Whether in a store or on the way to a Redskins game.

Face it, your guy just sucks ass.

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Is "YOUR BOSS" Tony Soprano?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No. It was the nature of the violation. He didn't fail to come to a full stop at a sign. He wasn't driving 5 mph over the limit. He decided to drive on the shoulder of the road to get to a football game because he apparently believes himself to be too special to have to wait in line like everybody else. If that is not a supreme indicator of profound arrogance, I don't know what is.

I don't think this is a sign of arrogance. Rather, it is an indication of his commitment to the Redskins. What true Redskins fan wouldn't risk a moving violation in order to not miss kick off? The campaign slogan for this writes itself: "I'd pay a fine to get to the Skins game on time".

Given that Fenty has a reputation of having the police move everyone out of his way, people are likely to be more sympathetic to Gray's choice of driving on the shoulder.

If you want to talk about true arrogance in a car, just consider Fenty's accident in Chevy Chase not long ago. Fenty and a young guy ran into each other at an intersection. Fenty's police detail violated policy by writing a police report about it and declared no one at fault. It's a frickin intersection with stop signs. How could no one be at fault? In all likelihood, Fenty was at fault. Now that poor kid is probably looking at higher insurance rates, plus having to pay to get his own car fixed.

OK, Jeff. I'm officially calling you out on your professed position that you do not prefer one candidate to the other. Get it out of your system. Vote for Gray. Heck, volunteer for his campaign. Judging from your rhetoric, it seems to be your calling. Neutral my ass. Switzerland is neutral. You want to be Switzerland, be Switzerland. You can't be Switzerland and keep bashing Fenty and sticking up for Gray. I mean, by all means, vote for the asshole. Just don't pretend you don't have a preference. It's an insult to my intelligence.

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Anonymous wrote:Is "YOUR BOSS" Tony Soprano?

No. He's just an incredibly keen, smart man with incredible political instincts. He's never wrong about this stuff. He holds a very high position and is widely respected. The game is over, people.

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Raise if your hand if you've never cut a line or a corner to get ahead?

Waiting...

Waiting...

Still waiting...

Just like all those waiting for a Fenty win will be come election time.

If the game is over and Fenty has it in the bag, why is he avoiding his opponents time and time again?

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He's not. See you in September, chump.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just remember, an "I'm not Fenty" campaign won't get him the win in September. Most voters are not fools. He needs more that that, and so far he hasn't shown anything more than that.

First of all, Gray actually has said more about what he'd do than Fenty has. Gray actually as an education plan (www.vincegrayformayor.com/education). That's more than Fenty has.
Secondly, Fenty is running an "I'm with Michelle Rhee" campaign. That won't get him the win in September

That "plan" has been widely criticized in the Post as a list of wishes. He has no plan for how to pay for any of it (oh, wait, he's going to divert all of the money from Wards 2 & 3 & 1, I guess), and has not specified any way to implement it. So you're just talking out of your asshole (I mean your mouth) when you say Gray has a plan.

You wait. Fenty will win in September. My boss said so. And my boss is always right about politics. You don't know my boss.

First of all, way to stay classy.
Secondly, Gray HAS proposed how to pay for it. Read the plan. It's in there.
Thirdly, even if Gray's plan is nothing more than wish list (which its not), it's still more than Fenty. Fenty has repeatedly been asked what his vision is for the future. He has none, beyond "keep Rhee."
Frankly, that's not good enough for me or most people -- I agree with Gray that education has to be about more than one person. Michelle Rhee won't be in this job forever, and school reform has to be able to survive no matter who the Mayor or Chancellor is. Gray has both a vision and a plan on how to make that happen. Fenty, not even close.

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Thank god that for most voters, Rhee is indeed enough. She's the best thing that even happened to our schools. Give them back to "more than one person" and watch them slide straight back to hell.

And no, there's nothing in Gray's list of wishes that involves a plan to pay for them. If you think there is, you must have gone to one of those underperforming schools Rhee's either since fixed, or will soon.

Like I said, I'm not worried. And I am classy.

But keep posting those signs. It's good exercise.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank god that for most voters, Rhee is indeed enough. She's the best thing that even happened to our schools. Give them back to "more than one person" and watch them slide straight back to hell.

And no, there's nothing in Gray's list of wishes that involves a plan to pay for them. If you think there is, you must have gone to one of those underperforming schools Rhee's either since fixed, or will soon.

Like I said, I'm not worried. And I am classy.

But keep posting those signs. It's good exercise.

Keep talking. The more you speak, the easier you make it for other people to walk away from Fenty and towards Gray --its that arrogance from the Fenty camp that's why he trails in EVERY SINGLE poll taken so far this year.

Have you even read Gray's plan? Because if you had, you would see that he specifically talks about how to pay for his proposals through the savings from 1) getting a handle on the mismanagement of the DCPS budget, and 2) through the savings of revamping our special education system -- a system that spends tens of millions more than it needs to by sending our special needs kids out to other states instead of serving their needs here. Read the plan before you criticize it.

And I don't know why you think that for most voters, Rhee is enough. Most voters want a Mayor who provides a vision for the future. What's Fenty's?
Most voters want a Mayor who didn't spend $82 million in city contracts on his unqualified fraternity brothers.

Let me ask you this question. Will Michelle Rhee be in this job FOREVER? My guess is not. So what happens when she eventually leaves, whether its in the next Fenty term, a Gray Administration, or the next Mayor after that? How will school reform be sustainable then? It won't, unless we make real sustainable changes to the system.

There's a reason the Fenty is trailing in all the polls so far. People think he and his team are arrogant, ignore the will of the people, and that he has no vision for the future. Seriously, what is he proposing for the next four years beyond keeping Rhee? NOTHING.

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He's not trailing in the polls. He is ahead in Wards 1, 8, 3 & 2. These are reported facts.

As to your ridiculous question as to what will ever happen to our improved schools once Rhee is no more: Consider FDR. He is pretty much credited for coming up with Social Security, and many other programs associated with the New Deal. He's no longer in office. In fact, he's dead. Yet somehow, the programs survived.

If you think "getting a handle on the budget" states a plan by which Gray intends to pay for his cradle to grave education plan, you're really not worth debating with further. I'm happy to debate issues with someone who knows the facts and has a clear grasp of the concepts at issue. But you are not even familiar with reports that Fenty is ahead in Wards 1 & 8, and that it is widely acknowledged that he will carry Wards 2 & 3 -- the only question is by how much. You think platitudes about getting a handle on the budget constitute an actual plan to pay for an education program that will begin in-utero.

I'm sorry, but I just can't take you seriously. Come back when you're better informed and . . . smarter.

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Sure, Gray's got a plan on how to pay for his grand vision:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/10/AR2010071002532.html

Get a clue.

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And could you please point to "every single poll" that shows Gray as ahead?

I think you'll find it difficult. Let's start with this poll:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2010/07/06/poll-shows-fenty-beating-gray-in-ward-1/

[Anonymous]

And this poll:

http://mobile.dcist.com/2010/05/fenty_outmaneuvers_gray_at_ward_8_s.php

[Anonymous]

And this poll:

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2010/07/08/fenty-leads-gray-by-6-points-in-blade-poll/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He's not trailing in the polls. He is ahead in Wards 1, 8, 3 & 2. These are reported facts.

As to your ridiculous question as to what will ever happen to our improved schools once Rhee is no more: Consider FDR. He is pretty much credited for coming up with Social Security, and many other programs associated with the New Deal. He's no longer in office. In fact, he's dead. Yet somehow, the programs survived.

If you think "getting a handle on the budget" states a plan by which Gray intends to pay for his cradle to grave education plan, you're really not worth debating with further. I'm happy to debate issues with someone who knows the facts and has a clear grasp of the concepts at issue. But you are not even familiar with reports that Fenty is ahead in Wards 1 & 8, and that it is widely acknowledged that he will carry Wards 2 & 3 -- the only question is by how much. You think platitudes about getting a handle on the budget constitute an actual plan to pay for an education program that will begin in-utero.

I'm sorry, but I just can't take you seriously. Come back when you're better informed and . . . smarter.

Sorry.... it's you that needs to be better informed.
In what world did you hear that Fenty is leading in Ward 8? Where was that a "reported fact?"
That's not even close. Gray is winning in ward 8. And you cannot find one single scientific poll anywhere that shows that he is leading there. You're just misinformed.
There was one recent poll that shows Fenty with a slight lead in Ward 1. He needs a big lead there to win. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/blogs/capital-land/poll-fenty-gray-race-tight-in-ward-1-97862139.html

But, since you are interested in reported facts, let's look at these reported facts:


Washington Post poll on Fenty's Approval ratings: Approve 42% - Disapprove 49% http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/30/AR2010013002452.html
Washington Post poll: Gray 35% - Fenty 31%
Clarus Research poll on Fenty's approval ratings: Approve 42% - Disapprove 48% http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/clarus-poll-dc-voters-unhappy-with-mayor-fentys-handling-of-snow-storms-84940057.html
Clarus Research poll: Gray 41% - Fenty 37% http://dcist.com/2009/11/grey_would_beat_fenty_poll_finds.php
DC Metropolitan Labor Council poll: Gray 43% - Fenty 39% http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/Gray-eyes-Fenty_s-chair_-cheered-by-latest-poll-8624808-78467842.html
DC Democratic Committee citywide straw poll: Gray 703 - Fenty 190 http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/Straw-Poll-Gray-beat-Fenty--96245244.html
Ward 3 Democratic Committee straw poll: Gray 174 - Fenty 168 http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dc/2010/06/gray_wins_over_fenty_in_ward_3.html
Gertrude Stein Democratic Club (gay & lesbian democratic committee) straw poll: Gray 63% - Fenty 37%

So, again, I ask -- in what world is Fenty leading? Every single published citywide poll so far has Gray leading. And he's won just about every single straw poll. And every poll so far shows that more city residents disapprove of Fenty's job performance than approve.

Sorry, you need to be better informed.