^^^ Somebody who has zero business giving relationship advice. |
Just like cutting out a cancer can save the person, cutting out the mentally ill abuser can save the rest of the family. And OP has already confirmed that she has tried talking to her mom. I don't know why you have so little faith in her. |
NP here. OP already confirmed that she has tried talking to her mom, asking her to stop with the mean gifts, and that the conversation script was similar to conversations (note that it’s plural-multiple conversations) she has had with her mom. So what was your advice again? To keep doing what she already did the didn’t change things? Be grateful that she has a mean mom? |
OP here. Interesting. That could be the case. She does occasionally find others to target. Yes, I learned about grey rock on DCUM and I use it. |
You can't work things out with someone who will not acknowledge their behavior. You can't work things out with someone who can't admit fault. This is the unfortunate case with PDs. |
DP. Genuinely curious: how many people have you cut out of your life? How many stable relationships do you have? Importantly, relationships where you don't get power by manipulating and threatening the people in your life? Your posts about "crazy ladies" suggests you're part of the problem. |
I don't care if anyone else cuts off their mom, but I did it, and it led to better health in my family overall, an unexpected boon. The idea that she was mentally ill had been hidden, and now it is out in the open, and it has been a relief for my siblings to have it acknowledged. The truth is healthy, and lies are toxic. The repercussions of my action are that I can have all my energy for my DH and DC. My child won't witness her abusive behavior - ever. My DH doesn't have to deal with the emotional fallout of a visit. I think every single person close to my situation is better off because of the difficult but necessary action I took. |
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My mom got very angry when she “didn’t hear from” my brother on HIS birthday. My brother is a 54, married father of 3. How did I know she was angry? She called me to say how disappointed she was and how she’d just never heard of a “child” not reaching out to his mother on his birthday.
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I am the poster who calls you Crazy Lady Poster, not the DP you just responded to. This is not a one-on-one convo!! I have cut out one person in my family. I have great relationships with everyone else. I do not manipulate or threaten. I respond to manipulation and threats and other toxic behavior by distancing myself. I am calling you Crazy Lady Poster because you act crazy. I admit it's not nice, but you're also not nice, not helpful, and not making any good points. I will not respond to you again. |
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My mother has told me yearly as long as I remember that it would be lovely for a child to send their mother flowers on the child’s birthday as a thank you for giving birth to them. I am 38 and still have not sent those flowers
She really is quite mentally ill. |
Funny not funny. I am sorry, PP. |
Yeah, that wasn't me. I'm the bold text. |
Annual tradition in my family. But my mom won’t call. She’ll just passive aggressively text a few days later and say “I didn’t hear from you on your birthday so I couldn’t wish you happy birthday.” I get OP’s same rotation of nastygram birthday cards and emails on random years, too. I am a twin from a time when they weren’t common and I’ve always wondered if my mom started as a narcissist or if the attention of having twins was what put her over the edge. She hated us getting older and still seeks out situations where she can be known as “the mom of The Twins.” We are in our 50s. Happy birthday, OP. |
Best guess is: she always was, but for sure you twins were an excellent source of attention for her. All narcissists hate it when their kids get older. They don't want to lose little-kid adoration or their beloved role as mom of littles, and they hate that you get your own experiences and thoughts. Turning into pre-teen is a terrible time for kids of narc moms. |
Was it helpful to have a twin in your situation? Vs. Having a non-twin sibling or being a single? |