| I want to see Russian bled dry and right now, our policy and treasure is doing that. I think we're committed at this point and pulling back would only emboldened Putin. How much have we spent? $10+ billion? It's a small price to pay to see one of our biggest adversaries reduced to a third-rate power. |
I mean… they’ve always been third rate. But it’s delightful to have it displayed for all the world to see. |
Yes! Give war a chance! Let's fight Russia to the last Ukrainian! |
However badly the war has hurt Russia, it has hurt Ukraine more, and it's delightful to watch you not give a damn. Really clarifies things. |
A third rate army is sitting on 20% of Ukraine. It's hard to imagine what a second rate army would have been able to do, or, god forbid, a first-rate one! |
Because Ukrainians have no agency in this? And they should have just pledged fealty to a despotic Putin and laid down their weapons back in 2014? |
It’s a wee bit more complicated given the presence of pro-Russian separatists in Eastern Ukraine who were armed and supported by Putin. . |
DP. We've already been given a taste of what Russia will do to Ukrainians. If Ukraine were to just roll over and let Russia barrel through, it would be even worse. |
Crimea takeover was bloodless so that should tell you about the population's sentiments right and proper. Regarding Ukrainian agency, let's not pretend that they aren't being encouraged to fight and discouraged from negotiations. I mean Boris Johnson said as much, didn't he. The US refused to negotiate with Russia before the war on Ukraine's NATO ambitions, which was the height of hypocrisy - NATO knew it would not admit Ukraine, yet it refused to say so. |
Maybe Ukraine shouldn't have pissed off its citizens in the east, what do you think? Instead, it pretended like the Maidan coup was universally supported and steamrolled those who disagreed, of course, in a stunning display of democracy /s. |
If you're posting from the DMV area, YOU personally have been given a taste of nothing but pixels on a screen. |
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It ends with Russia winning or the world destroyed.
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Fixed it for you. |