How to fight the mid 40s weight gain?

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Anonymous wrote:IF, keto with whole foods, and weight training.

100% this
Women’s hormones at this stage are tanking and you often need to restrict carbs to see a change. This is particularly true if the weight is accumulating around your waist (the spare tire). Try tracking your carbs for a month, staying under 20 net carbs a day, and I can almost guarantee you will lose weight.

"Net carbs" isn't a thing. I mean, it's a MARKETING thing but it's not a nutritional thing. So ignore this nonsense. Also, 20 a DAY is ridiculous. If you do under 40 a meal, you'll be fine. Most people consume hundreds of carbs a day without realizing it -- and don't eat enough fiber (which does make carbs easier to digest, but again, "net carb" is not a thing).

Best thing to do is write it all down in an app. Every meal. It will make you more mindful.

It is a real nutritional thing because of how fiber is counted on food labels, what are you blathering about

LOL. Sweetie. No, it's not. And, it's not counted that way on food labels. It might be a bold type claim on the front of the packaging (see "marketing thing") but it's not an actual nutritional concept. But please, by all means, find where the FDA acknowledges "net carbs" as a thing on food labels. I'll wait.

Here you go:

https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/questions-and-answers-dietary-fiber#synthetic_fibers

FDA requires labels to count nondigestible fiber as "carbohydrates" even though it is, in fact, not digestible. A "carbohydrate" that your body does not digest is, of course, substantively different than a carbohydrate that your body does digest:

https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/questions-and-answers-dietary-fiber#beneficial_physiological_effects

So yes, it is a "nutritional thing" to consider the two separately, and the only way to know how much carbohydrate in a packaged food is a digestible carbohydrate and how much is not, is to consider the "net" carbohydrate, or the amount that is digestible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You say you eat salads for lunch, but so what? What do you eat in the morning, in the evening and do you snack?

Do you put sauce / ketchup / soya / salad dressing on your foods? Do you consume a lot of dairy.

It sounds honestly, like you don't have a clue.

OP here. No need to be rude. For breakfast, I eat a cereal bar on the way to school along with coffee. In the evening I eat a normal dinner or chicken, fish, pasta etc. I think I may be eating too much at dinner so maybe I’ll add some protein to my lunch to keep me fuller. The only dairy I consume is cheese on pizza every few weeks and a splash of creamer in my coffee. I eat maybe a tablespoon of ranch dressing on my salad. No alcohol. Dessert maybe once a week. Soda maybe once a month.

It's hard to write something here without it sounding overly critical, but I mean it in a more compassionate way than it might read.

OP -- you description of your diet sounds incredibly imprecise and lacking in filling nutrients. You eat a cereal bar, a garden salad, and then nothing at all until dinner? You are an adult woman who moves through the world, and an adult woman needs sustenance. What you describe is not it. That leads me to believe that you are unconsciously snacking throughout the day and/or over indulging at night.

You have to start writing down what you are eating and how much before you can really get a handle on things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You say you eat salads for lunch, but so what? What do you eat in the morning, in the evening and do you snack?

Do you put sauce / ketchup / soya / salad dressing on your foods? Do you consume a lot of dairy.

It sounds honestly, like you don't have a clue.

OP here. No need to be rude. For breakfast, I eat a cereal bar on the way to school along with coffee. In the evening I eat a normal dinner or chicken, fish, pasta etc. I think I may be eating too much at dinner so maybe I’ll add some protein to my lunch to keep me fuller. The only dairy I consume is cheese on pizza every few weeks and a splash of creamer in my coffee. I eat maybe a tablespoon of ranch dressing on my salad. No alcohol. Dessert maybe once a week. Soda maybe once a month.

The day should start with a healthy breakfast, this cereal bar is likely 75% sugar and that is setting the tone of your day and leaving you hungry at the end of it.

oatmeal has no sugar in it - you add chopped apples and it's sweet but still, very low sugar. You can also add nuts for protein / calories.

do not eat pizza it is really high in fat and carbs - there is basically zero nutrients in a pizza and its something like 350 calories per slice.

Never have a soda, never have dressing, what is the "protein" you're adding to your lunch? There's a big difference between a can of tuna and a few slices of salami in terms of fats.

You don't have a clue.

[Anonymous]

^^^oh yeah dessert is OUT that's like a whole days' worth of calories added

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IF, keto with whole foods, and weight training.

100% this
Women’s hormones at this stage are tanking and you often need to restrict carbs to see a change. This is particularly true if the weight is accumulating around your waist (the spare tire). Try tracking your carbs for a month, staying under 20 net carbs a day, and I can almost guarantee you will lose weight.

"Net carbs" isn't a thing. I mean, it's a MARKETING thing but it's not a nutritional thing. So ignore this nonsense. Also, 20 a DAY is ridiculous. If you do under 40 a meal, you'll be fine. Most people consume hundreds of carbs a day without realizing it -- and don't eat enough fiber (which does make carbs easier to digest, but again, "net carb" is not a thing).

Best thing to do is write it all down in an app. Every meal. It will make you more mindful.

It is a real nutritional thing because of how fiber is counted on food labels, what are you blathering about

LOL. Sweetie. No, it's not. And, it's not counted that way on food labels. It might be a bold type claim on the front of the packaging (see "marketing thing") but it's not an actual nutritional concept. But please, by all means, find where the FDA acknowledges "net carbs" as a thing on food labels. I'll wait.

Here you go:

https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/questions-and-answers-dietary-fiber#synthetic_fibers

FDA requires labels to count nondigestible fiber as "carbohydrates" even though it is, in fact, not digestible. A "carbohydrate" that your body does not digest is, of course, substantively different than a carbohydrate that your body does digest:

https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/questions-and-answers-dietary-fiber#beneficial_physiological_effects

So yes, it is a "nutritional thing" to consider the two separately, and the only way to know how much carbohydrate in a packaged food is a digestible carbohydrate and how much is not, is to consider the "net" carbohydrate, or the amount that is digestible.

NP here- enough with the suggestion to not eat carb in order to lose weight. half the world lives off of carbs and are not overweight. carbs DO NOT make you fat. Too many calories make you fat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You say you eat salads for lunch, but so what? What do you eat in the morning, in the evening and do you snack?

Do you put sauce / ketchup / soya / salad dressing on your foods? Do you consume a lot of dairy.

It sounds honestly, like you don't have a clue.

OP here. No need to be rude. For breakfast, I eat a cereal bar on the way to school along with coffee. In the evening I eat a normal dinner or chicken, fish, pasta etc. I think I may be eating too much at dinner so maybe I’ll add some protein to my lunch to keep me fuller. The only dairy I consume is cheese on pizza every few weeks and a splash of creamer in my coffee. I eat maybe a tablespoon of ranch dressing on my salad. No alcohol. Dessert maybe once a week. Soda maybe once a month.

The day should start with a healthy breakfast, this cereal bar is likely 75% sugar and that is setting the tone of your day and leaving you hungry at the end of it.

oatmeal has no sugar in it - you add chopped apples and it's sweet but still, very low sugar. You can also add nuts for protein / calories.

do not eat pizza it is really high in fat and carbs - there is basically zero nutrients in a pizza and its something like 350 calories per slice.

Never have a soda, never have dressing, what is the "protein" you're adding to your lunch? There's a big difference between a can of tuna and a few slices of salami in terms of fats.

You don't have a clue.

no clue is someone who thinks you can't eat pizza or have salad dressing. what a depressing existence. No i am not suggesting anyone douse their salad in blue cheese dressing or eat Pizza every day, but both of these things can be incorporated in a balanced diet and eaten on occasion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You say you eat salads for lunch, but so what? What do you eat in the morning, in the evening and do you snack?

Do you put sauce / ketchup / soya / salad dressing on your foods? Do you consume a lot of dairy.

It sounds honestly, like you don't have a clue.

OP here. No need to be rude. For breakfast, I eat a cereal bar on the way to school along with coffee. In the evening I eat a normal dinner or chicken, fish, pasta etc. I think I may be eating too much at dinner so maybe I’ll add some protein to my lunch to keep me fuller. The only dairy I consume is cheese on pizza every few weeks and a splash of creamer in my coffee. I eat maybe a tablespoon of ranch dressing on my salad. No alcohol. Dessert maybe once a week. Soda maybe once a month.

The day should start with a healthy breakfast, this cereal bar is likely 75% sugar and that is setting the tone of your day and leaving you hungry at the end of it.

oatmeal has no sugar in it - you add chopped apples and it's sweet but still, very low sugar. You can also add nuts for protein / calories.

do not eat pizza it is really high in fat and carbs - there is basically zero nutrients in a pizza and its something like 350 calories per slice.

Never have a soda, never have dressing, what is the "protein" you're adding to your lunch? There's a big difference between a can of tuna and a few slices of salami in terms of fats.

You don't have a clue.

NEVER have dressing, pizza, or dessert? NEVER?

Honestly, at 48 with those fun fun extra five pounds on me, I might rather just get bigger pants. I can't see how this diet is remotely sustainable or pleasurable. There has to be some balance between letting go entirely and THIS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You say you eat salads for lunch, but so what? What do you eat in the morning, in the evening and do you snack?

Do you put sauce / ketchup / soya / salad dressing on your foods? Do you consume a lot of dairy.

It sounds honestly, like you don't have a clue.

OP here. No need to be rude. For breakfast, I eat a cereal bar on the way to school along with coffee. In the evening I eat a normal dinner or chicken, fish, pasta etc. I think I may be eating too much at dinner so maybe I’ll add some protein to my lunch to keep me fuller. The only dairy I consume is cheese on pizza every few weeks and a splash of creamer in my coffee. I eat maybe a tablespoon of ranch dressing on my salad. No alcohol. Dessert maybe once a week. Soda maybe once a month.

The day should start with a healthy breakfast, this cereal bar is likely 75% sugar and that is setting the tone of your day and leaving you hungry at the end of it.

oatmeal has no sugar in it - you add chopped apples and it's sweet but still, very low sugar. You can also add nuts for protein / calories.

do not eat pizza it is really high in fat and carbs - there is basically zero nutrients in a pizza and its something like 350 calories per slice.

Never have a soda, never have dressing, what is the "protein" you're adding to your lunch? There's a big difference between a can of tuna and a few slices of salami in terms of fats.

You don't have a clue.

How tall are you and what do you weigh? You might be trying to maintain at a weight that is too low for your height/frame. No pizza ever or no dressing is crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IF, keto with whole foods, and weight training.

100% this
Women’s hormones at this stage are tanking and you often need to restrict carbs to see a change. This is particularly true if the weight is accumulating around your waist (the spare tire). Try tracking your carbs for a month, staying under 20 net carbs a day, and I can almost guarantee you will lose weight.

"Net carbs" isn't a thing. I mean, it's a MARKETING thing but it's not a nutritional thing. So ignore this nonsense. Also, 20 a DAY is ridiculous. If you do under 40 a meal, you'll be fine. Most people consume hundreds of carbs a day without realizing it -- and don't eat enough fiber (which does make carbs easier to digest, but again, "net carb" is not a thing).

Best thing to do is write it all down in an app. Every meal. It will make you more mindful.

It is a real nutritional thing because of how fiber is counted on food labels, what are you blathering about

LOL. Sweetie. No, it's not. And, it's not counted that way on food labels. It might be a bold type claim on the front of the packaging (see "marketing thing") but it's not an actual nutritional concept. But please, by all means, find where the FDA acknowledges "net carbs" as a thing on food labels. I'll wait.

Here you go:

https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/questions-and-answers-dietary-fiber#synthetic_fibers

FDA requires labels to count nondigestible fiber as "carbohydrates" even though it is, in fact, not digestible. A "carbohydrate" that your body does not digest is, of course, substantively different than a carbohydrate that your body does digest:

https://www.fda.gov/food/food-labeling-nutrition/questions-and-answers-dietary-fiber#beneficial_physiological_effects

So yes, it is a "nutritional thing" to consider the two separately, and the only way to know how much carbohydrate in a packaged food is a digestible carbohydrate and how much is not, is to consider the "net" carbohydrate, or the amount that is digestible.

NP here- enough with the suggestion to not eat carb in order to lose weight. half the world lives off of carbs and are not overweight. carbs DO NOT make you fat. Too many calories make you fat.

It’s ok that we disagree! But as a female who spent many years doing the moderation, eat mostly plants, avoid pizza/dressing suggestions this is the ONLY thing that helped me. I read Women, Food and Hormones and found it very helpful. It doesn’t work well for everyone across the world, but they aren’t in the same situation or life stage as me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You say you eat salads for lunch, but so what? What do you eat in the morning, in the evening and do you snack?

Do you put sauce / ketchup / soya / salad dressing on your foods? Do you consume a lot of dairy.

It sounds honestly, like you don't have a clue.

OP here. No need to be rude. For breakfast, I eat a cereal bar on the way to school along with coffee. In the evening I eat a normal dinner or chicken, fish, pasta etc. I think I may be eating too much at dinner so maybe I’ll add some protein to my lunch to keep me fuller. The only dairy I consume is cheese on pizza every few weeks and a splash of creamer in my coffee. I eat maybe a tablespoon of ranch dressing on my salad. No alcohol. Dessert maybe once a week. Soda maybe once a month.

The day should start with a healthy breakfast, this cereal bar is likely 75% sugar and that is setting the tone of your day and leaving you hungry at the end of it.

oatmeal has no sugar in it - you add chopped apples and it's sweet but still, very low sugar. You can also add nuts for protein / calories.

do not eat pizza it is really high in fat and carbs - there is basically zero nutrients in a pizza and its something like 350 calories per slice.

Never have a soda, never have dressing, what is the "protein" you're adding to your lunch? There's a big difference between a can of tuna and a few slices of salami in terms of fats.

You don't have a clue.

NEVER have dressing, pizza, or dessert? NEVER?

Honestly, at 48 with those fun fun extra five pounds on me, I might rather just get bigger pants. I can't see how this diet is remotely sustainable or pleasurable. There has to be some balance between letting go entirely and THIS.

I agree. Eff that. Life is meant to be enjoyed. I won’t give up things like pizza and gasp! Even soda once in a while. Even dessert once a week is so not a big deal. No wonder why you women are so miserable and cranky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You say you eat salads for lunch, but so what? What do you eat in the morning, in the evening and do you snack?

Do you put sauce / ketchup / soya / salad dressing on your foods? Do you consume a lot of dairy.

It sounds honestly, like you don't have a clue.

OP here. No need to be rude. For breakfast, I eat a cereal bar on the way to school along with coffee. In the evening I eat a normal dinner or chicken, fish, pasta etc. I think I may be eating too much at dinner so maybe I’ll add some protein to my lunch to keep me fuller. The only dairy I consume is cheese on pizza every few weeks and a splash of creamer in my coffee. I eat maybe a tablespoon of ranch dressing on my salad. No alcohol. Dessert maybe once a week. Soda maybe once a month.

The day should start with a healthy breakfast, this cereal bar is likely 75% sugar and that is setting the tone of your day and leaving you hungry at the end of it.

oatmeal has no sugar in it - you add chopped apples and it's sweet but still, very low sugar. You can also add nuts for protein / calories.

do not eat pizza it is really high in fat and carbs - there is basically zero nutrients in a pizza and its something like 350 calories per slice.

Never have a soda, never have dressing, what is the "protein" you're adding to your lunch? There's a big difference between a can of tuna and a few slices of salami in terms of fats.

You don't have a clue.

NEVER have dressing, pizza, or dessert? NEVER?

Honestly, at 48 with those fun fun extra five pounds on me, I might rather just get bigger pants. I can't see how this diet is remotely sustainable or pleasurable. There has to be some balance between letting go entirely and THIS.

I agree. Eff that. Life is meant to be enjoyed. I won’t give up things like pizza and gasp! Even soda once in a while. Even dessert once a week is so not a big deal. No wonder why you women are so miserable and cranky.

DP and agreed. I was having sweets more like daily and I can certainly cut back on that, but never? No, thanks.

Also, is there no daylight between, say, smothering a salad with blue cheese dressing vs. a light home vinaigrette? Even pizza comes in different types. I adore stuffed Chicago pizza, but I know that having that often isn’t going to work.

[Anonymous]

There are some women on this board who are insistent that if you avoid rich/highly caloric foods, something is wrong with you. But there is a good reason so many people in America, who eat pizza and ranch even only sometimes, are so fat. If i eat 1800 calories a day while working a desk job given my height, body fat percentage, and workout schedule, I will *maintain* an obese weight. Only 1800 calories. A pretty moderate diet, by American standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are some women on this board who are insistent that if you avoid rich/highly caloric foods, something is wrong with you. But there is a good reason so many people in America, who eat pizza and ranch even only sometimes, are so fat. If i eat 1800 calories a day while working a desk job given my height, body fat percentage, and workout schedule, I will *maintain* an obese weight. Only 1800 calories. A pretty moderate diet, by American standards.

There is a world between putting on five or even ten pounds in your 40s and 50s, and being obese. Also, it sounds like you might be an extreme case. Perhaps you need more rigid rules about NEVER eating pizza - and others of us need some balance between a generally healthy diet and a general acceptance that bodies change as they age.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IF, keto with whole foods, and weight training.

100% this
Women’s hormones at this stage are tanking and you often need to restrict carbs to see a change. This is particularly true if the weight is accumulating around your waist (the spare tire). Try tracking your carbs for a month, staying under 20 net carbs a day, and I can almost guarantee you will lose weight.

But who wants to live like that? Keto/IF is completely unnecessary. It is all about restricting calories and there are many ways to go about it.

[Anonymous]

Lift weights. Heavy ones.