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Anonymous wrote:What are the chances you will get in if you were deferred? How many deferrals turn into acceptances?

I would like to know as well. Is a deferral from UVA basically a NO?

According to Dean J,‘s blog, last year 8% of deferrals were offered admission. It was 12% the year before.

The 8,000 deferrals are now in the same pot as the 16,000 RD applications. Not many spots left...

23:13 on page ten above ran the numbers:

48,000 - 32,000 between ED/EA = 16,000 RD

I imagine they lose many to other schools’ ED and ED2.


You forgot about the deferred applicants from ED and EA who will get a second shot in the RD round. There are 8000 deferred applicants. For another file review, these students have to file a form. If half the deferred students elect a review, that’s 4000 more applicants in the RD round, in addition to the 16,000 RD applicants, or 20,000 total.

Hard to know how many of the defers will withdraw, too. Did you notice that the defers have to fill something out to confirm that they want to be reconsidered?

Yes. So how many more admits will there be ?

That's a very good question and one I can't answer. Usually, the institution uses an algorithm provided by expensive consultants to assess how many EA students can be expected to accept as well as how many RD students will show up (I'm assuming all the ED students show up minus a fraction for those who defer or have a personal reason for not matriculating). I understand UVA is aiming for a class of 3750, which sounds about right. What they can't assess well this year is how many will accept EA or even RD offers because COVID has thrown a monkey wrench into college admissions. UVA does not want a situation like VT had about three years ago when it tried out a new algorithm and wound up with far too many students accepting. Immediately after that, UVA started ED, because it, too, needed to have a better sense of how many students would accept offers (the "yield). Prior to Covid, there was a lot of nervousness about the fact that SLACs and other privates were pricing themselves out of reach for even UMC. So more and admitted more students were accepting UVA than in the past because of its value. Then Covid came and many families found their savings depleted, lost jobs or were laid off. That makes all the publics look a LOT more attractive to a financially-stressed family. Bearing that in mind, the wisest course of action for UVA is to admit a smaller RD class than usual and then wait and see how many EA and RD accept. They need to control because they can't handle more than the 3750 - it's not a school where dorm trailers can be brought in or hotels leased out (easily). Once the office knows that answer (May 1), then it will turn to the monstrous deferral list.

It is really sad that hardworking kids with kids with good stats can’t get into their stat flagship from TJ! I am sure lots of kids and parents are questioning if all those AP classes etc and going to TJ was worth it!

Why only TJ? Look, I'm not one who much cares about the back and forth about TJ. My kid doesn't want to go. Maybe couldn't get admitted or maybe could? Doesn't matter, DC isn't planning to apply and I don't care. But . . .

That doesn't mean that kids who go to their "normal" public, perform at a very high level, and may be just as well rounded (if not more so) than TJ kids are any less deserving of a spot at UVA. The ones with similar GPAs also work very hard, take lots of APs, etc.

What a tone deaf, offensive statement.

Did not intend to offend anyone. DCUM loves TJ and most parents want their kids to attend TJ. Jus pointed out the fact that since its so hard to get into TJ why bother if you can’t get into UvA? Did not mean to imply nonTJ kids are in anyway inferior or less deserving.

You are making huge assumptions. I would never want my kid to attend TJ nor would any of my friends. It is a total miserable grind. Lots and lots of Asian immigrant families see TJ as a path into UMC life for their kids. It is something like 70% Asian and very few AA or Hispanic kids. Weird social dynamic.

Some 80 students at TJ will get in and some 40-50 will attend. Just because one person from TJ appears on this board doesn't mean all of the TJ students aren't getting into UVA. TJ sends by far more students to UVA than any other institution. It's just gotten harder everywhere to get in and especially at UVA

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Anonymous wrote:What are the chances you will get in if you were deferred? How many deferrals turn into acceptances?

I would like to know as well. Is a deferral from UVA basically a NO?

According to Dean J,‘s blog, last year 8% of deferrals were offered admission. It was 12% the year before.

The 8,000 deferrals are now in the same pot as the 16,000 RD applications. Not many spots left...

23:13 on page ten above ran the numbers:

48,000 - 32,000 between ED/EA = 16,000 RD

I imagine they lose many to other schools’ ED and ED2.


You forgot about the deferred applicants from ED and EA who will get a second shot in the RD round. There are 8000 deferred applicants. For another file review, these students have to file a form. If half the deferred students elect a review, that’s 4000 more applicants in the RD round, in addition to the 16,000 RD applicants, or 20,000 total.

Hard to know how many of the defers will withdraw, too. Did you notice that the defers have to fill something out to confirm that they want to be reconsidered?

Yes. So how many more admits will there be ?

That's a very good question and one I can't answer. Usually, the institution uses an algorithm provided by expensive consultants to assess how many EA students can be expected to accept as well as how many RD students will show up (I'm assuming all the ED students show up minus a fraction for those who defer or have a personal reason for not matriculating). I understand UVA is aiming for a class of 3750, which sounds about right. What they can't assess well this year is how many will accept EA or even RD offers because COVID has thrown a monkey wrench into college admissions. UVA does not want a situation like VT had about three years ago when it tried out a new algorithm and wound up with far too many students accepting. Immediately after that, UVA started ED, because it, too, needed to have a better sense of how many students would accept offers (the "yield). Prior to Covid, there was a lot of nervousness about the fact that SLACs and other privates were pricing themselves out of reach for even UMC. So more and admitted more students were accepting UVA than in the past because of its value. Then Covid came and many families found their savings depleted, lost jobs or were laid off. That makes all the publics look a LOT more attractive to a financially-stressed family. Bearing that in mind, the wisest course of action for UVA is to admit a smaller RD class than usual and then wait and see how many EA and RD accept. They need to control because they can't handle more than the 3750 - it's not a school where dorm trailers can be brought in or hotels leased out (easily). Once the office knows that answer (May 1), then it will turn to the monstrous deferral list.

It is really sad that hardworking kids with kids with good stats can’t get into their stat flagship from TJ! I am sure lots of kids and parents are questioning if all those AP classes etc and going to TJ was worth it!

Why only TJ? Look, I'm not one who much cares about the back and forth about TJ. My kid doesn't want to go. Maybe couldn't get admitted or maybe could? Doesn't matter, DC isn't planning to apply and I don't care. But . . .

That doesn't mean that kids who go to their "normal" public, perform at a very high level, and may be just as well rounded (if not more so) than TJ kids are any less deserving of a spot at UVA. The ones with similar GPAs also work very hard, take lots of APs, etc.

What a tone deaf, offensive statement.

Did not intend to offend anyone. DCUM loves TJ and most parents want their kids to attend TJ. Jus pointed out the fact that since its so hard to get into TJ why bother if you can’t get into UvA? Did not mean to imply nonTJ kids are in anyway inferior or less deserving.

You are making huge assumptions. I would never want my kid to attend TJ nor would any of my friends. It is a total miserable grind. Lots and lots of Asian immigrant families see TJ as a path into UMC life for their kids. It is something like 70% Asian and very few AA or Hispanic kids. Weird social dynamic.

Get over it, Karen! People have the right to talk about or not to talk about TJ for this exact topic. You have no say in whether other people are miserable or not.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the chances you will get in if you were deferred? How many deferrals turn into acceptances?

I would like to know as well. Is a deferral from UVA basically a NO?

According to Dean J,‘s blog, last year 8% of deferrals were offered admission. It was 12% the year before.

The 8,000 deferrals are now in the same pot as the 16,000 RD applications. Not many spots left...

23:13 on page ten above ran the numbers:

48,000 - 32,000 between ED/EA = 16,000 RD

I imagine they lose many to other schools’ ED and ED2.


You forgot about the deferred applicants from ED and EA who will get a second shot in the RD round. There are 8000 deferred applicants. For another file review, these students have to file a form. If half the deferred students elect a review, that’s 4000 more applicants in the RD round, in addition to the 16,000 RD applicants, or 20,000 total.

Hard to know how many of the defers will withdraw, too. Did you notice that the defers have to fill something out to confirm that they want to be reconsidered?

Yes. So how many more admits will there be ?

That's a very good question and one I can't answer. Usually, the institution uses an algorithm provided by expensive consultants to assess how many EA students can be expected to accept as well as how many RD students will show up (I'm assuming all the ED students show up minus a fraction for those who defer or have a personal reason for not matriculating). I understand UVA is aiming for a class of 3750, which sounds about right. What they can't assess well this year is how many will accept EA or even RD offers because COVID has thrown a monkey wrench into college admissions. UVA does not want a situation like VT had about three years ago when it tried out a new algorithm and wound up with far too many students accepting. Immediately after that, UVA started ED, because it, too, needed to have a better sense of how many students would accept offers (the "yield). Prior to Covid, there was a lot of nervousness about the fact that SLACs and other privates were pricing themselves out of reach for even UMC. So more and admitted more students were accepting UVA than in the past because of its value. Then Covid came and many families found their savings depleted, lost jobs or were laid off. That makes all the publics look a LOT more attractive to a financially-stressed family. Bearing that in mind, the wisest course of action for UVA is to admit a smaller RD class than usual and then wait and see how many EA and RD accept. They need to control because they can't handle more than the 3750 - it's not a school where dorm trailers can be brought in or hotels leased out (easily). Once the office knows that answer (May 1), then it will turn to the monstrous deferral list.

It is really sad that hardworking kids with kids with good stats can’t get into their stat flagship from TJ! I am sure lots of kids and parents are questioning if all those AP classes etc and going to TJ was worth it!

Why only TJ? Look, I'm not one who much cares about the back and forth about TJ. My kid doesn't want to go. Maybe couldn't get admitted or maybe could? Doesn't matter, DC isn't planning to apply and I don't care. But . . .

That doesn't mean that kids who go to their "normal" public, perform at a very high level, and may be just as well rounded (if not more so) than TJ kids are any less deserving of a spot at UVA. The ones with similar GPAs also work very hard, take lots of APs, etc.

What a tone deaf, offensive statement.

Did not intend to offend anyone. DCUM loves TJ and most parents want their kids to attend TJ. Jus pointed out the fact that since its so hard to get into TJ why bother if you can’t get into UvA? Did not mean to imply nonTJ kids are in anyway inferior or less deserving.

You are making huge assumptions. I would never want my kid to attend TJ nor would any of my friends. It is a total miserable grind. Lots and lots of Asian immigrant families see TJ as a path into UMC life for their kids. It is something like 70% Asian and very few AA or Hispanic kids. Weird social dynamic.

Just because your pea brain can’t handle the work and rigor doesn’t mean other people can’t do it with ease and fun.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the chances you will get in if you were deferred? How many deferrals turn into acceptances?

I would like to know as well. Is a deferral from UVA basically a NO?

According to Dean J,‘s blog, last year 8% of deferrals were offered admission. It was 12% the year before.

The 8,000 deferrals are now in the same pot as the 16,000 RD applications. Not many spots left...

23:13 on page ten above ran the numbers:

48,000 - 32,000 between ED/EA = 16,000 RD

I imagine they lose many to other schools’ ED and ED2.


You forgot about the deferred applicants from ED and EA who will get a second shot in the RD round. There are 8000 deferred applicants. For another file review, these students have to file a form. If half the deferred students elect a review, that’s 4000 more applicants in the RD round, in addition to the 16,000 RD applicants, or 20,000 total.

Hard to know how many of the defers will withdraw, too. Did you notice that the defers have to fill something out to confirm that they want to be reconsidered?

Yes. So how many more admits will there be ?

That's a very good question and one I can't answer. Usually, the institution uses an algorithm provided by expensive consultants to assess how many EA students can be expected to accept as well as how many RD students will show up (I'm assuming all the ED students show up minus a fraction for those who defer or have a personal reason for not matriculating). I understand UVA is aiming for a class of 3750, which sounds about right. What they can't assess well this year is how many will accept EA or even RD offers because COVID has thrown a monkey wrench into college admissions. UVA does not want a situation like VT had about three years ago when it tried out a new algorithm and wound up with far too many students accepting. Immediately after that, UVA started ED, because it, too, needed to have a better sense of how many students would accept offers (the "yield). Prior to Covid, there was a lot of nervousness about the fact that SLACs and other privates were pricing themselves out of reach for even UMC. So more and admitted more students were accepting UVA than in the past because of its value. Then Covid came and many families found their savings depleted, lost jobs or were laid off. That makes all the publics look a LOT more attractive to a financially-stressed family. Bearing that in mind, the wisest course of action for UVA is to admit a smaller RD class than usual and then wait and see how many EA and RD accept. They need to control because they can't handle more than the 3750 - it's not a school where dorm trailers can be brought in or hotels leased out (easily). Once the office knows that answer (May 1), then it will turn to the monstrous deferral list.

It is really sad that hardworking kids with kids with good stats can’t get into their stat flagship from TJ! I am sure lots of kids and parents are questioning if all those AP classes etc and going to TJ was worth it!

Why only TJ? Look, I'm not one who much cares about the back and forth about TJ. My kid doesn't want to go. Maybe couldn't get admitted or maybe could? Doesn't matter, DC isn't planning to apply and I don't care. But . . .

That doesn't mean that kids who go to their "normal" public, perform at a very high level, and may be just as well rounded (if not more so) than TJ kids are any less deserving of a spot at UVA. The ones with similar GPAs also work very hard, take lots of APs, etc.

What a tone deaf, offensive statement.

Did not intend to offend anyone. DCUM loves TJ and most parents want their kids to attend TJ. Jus pointed out the fact that since its so hard to get into TJ why bother if you can’t get into UvA? Did not mean to imply nonTJ kids are in anyway inferior or less deserving.

You are making huge assumptions. I would never want my kid to attend TJ nor would any of my friends. It is a total miserable grind. Lots and lots of Asian immigrant families see TJ as a path into UMC life for their kids. It is something like 70% Asian and very few AA or Hispanic kids. Weird social dynamic.

Just because your pea brain can’t handle the work and rigor doesn’t mean other people can’t do it with ease and fun.

You don't need to be at TJ to have work, rigor and fun. I know PLENTY of kids who have those things, easily so, not at TJ. They have gotten into top colleges, as well as done some other interesting things outside the non-academic setting. So stop.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the chances you will get in if you were deferred? How many deferrals turn into acceptances?

I would like to know as well. Is a deferral from UVA basically a NO?

According to Dean J,‘s blog, last year 8% of deferrals were offered admission. It was 12% the year before.

The 8,000 deferrals are now in the same pot as the 16,000 RD applications. Not many spots left...

23:13 on page ten above ran the numbers:

48,000 - 32,000 between ED/EA = 16,000 RD

I imagine they lose many to other schools’ ED and ED2.


You forgot about the deferred applicants from ED and EA who will get a second shot in the RD round. There are 8000 deferred applicants. For another file review, these students have to file a form. If half the deferred students elect a review, that’s 4000 more applicants in the RD round, in addition to the 16,000 RD applicants, or 20,000 total.

Hard to know how many of the defers will withdraw, too. Did you notice that the defers have to fill something out to confirm that they want to be reconsidered?

Yes. So how many more admits will there be ?

That's a very good question and one I can't answer. Usually, the institution uses an algorithm provided by expensive consultants to assess how many EA students can be expected to accept as well as how many RD students will show up (I'm assuming all the ED students show up minus a fraction for those who defer or have a personal reason for not matriculating). I understand UVA is aiming for a class of 3750, which sounds about right. What they can't assess well this year is how many will accept EA or even RD offers because COVID has thrown a monkey wrench into college admissions. UVA does not want a situation like VT had about three years ago when it tried out a new algorithm and wound up with far too many students accepting. Immediately after that, UVA started ED, because it, too, needed to have a better sense of how many students would accept offers (the "yield). Prior to Covid, there was a lot of nervousness about the fact that SLACs and other privates were pricing themselves out of reach for even UMC. So more and admitted more students were accepting UVA than in the past because of its value. Then Covid came and many families found their savings depleted, lost jobs or were laid off. That makes all the publics look a LOT more attractive to a financially-stressed family. Bearing that in mind, the wisest course of action for UVA is to admit a smaller RD class than usual and then wait and see how many EA and RD accept. They need to control because they can't handle more than the 3750 - it's not a school where dorm trailers can be brought in or hotels leased out (easily). Once the office knows that answer (May 1), then it will turn to the monstrous deferral list.

It is really sad that hardworking kids with kids with good stats can’t get into their stat flagship from TJ! I am sure lots of kids and parents are questioning if all those AP classes etc and going to TJ was worth it!

Why only TJ? Look, I'm not one who much cares about the back and forth about TJ. My kid doesn't want to go. Maybe couldn't get admitted or maybe could? Doesn't matter, DC isn't planning to apply and I don't care. But . . .

That doesn't mean that kids who go to their "normal" public, perform at a very high level, and may be just as well rounded (if not more so) than TJ kids are any less deserving of a spot at UVA. The ones with similar GPAs also work very hard, take lots of APs, etc.

What a tone deaf, offensive statement.

Did not intend to offend anyone. DCUM loves TJ and most parents want their kids to attend TJ. Jus pointed out the fact that since its so hard to get into TJ why bother if you can’t get into UvA? Did not mean to imply nonTJ kids are in anyway inferior or less deserving.

You are making huge assumptions. I would never want my kid to attend TJ nor would any of my friends. It is a total miserable grind. Lots and lots of Asian immigrant families see TJ as a path into UMC life for their kids. It is something like 70% Asian and very few AA or Hispanic kids. Weird social dynamic.

Just because your pea brain can’t handle the work and rigor doesn’t mean other people can’t do it with ease and fun.

You don't need to be at TJ to have work, rigor and fun. I know PLENTY of kids who have those things, easily so, not at TJ. They have gotten into top colleges, as well as done some other interesting things outside the non-academic setting. So stop.

DP. Aren't you now being the Karen by insisting that someone shut up? Why does your opinion have to rule?

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Anonymous wrote:What are the chances you will get in if you were deferred? How many deferrals turn into acceptances?

I would like to know as well. Is a deferral from UVA basically a NO?

According to Dean J,‘s blog, last year 8% of deferrals were offered admission. It was 12% the year before.

The 8,000 deferrals are now in the same pot as the 16,000 RD applications. Not many spots left...

23:13 on page ten above ran the numbers:

48,000 - 32,000 between ED/EA = 16,000 RD

I imagine they lose many to other schools’ ED and ED2.


You forgot about the deferred applicants from ED and EA who will get a second shot in the RD round. There are 8000 deferred applicants. For another file review, these students have to file a form. If half the deferred students elect a review, that’s 4000 more applicants in the RD round, in addition to the 16,000 RD applicants, or 20,000 total.

Hard to know how many of the defers will withdraw, too. Did you notice that the defers have to fill something out to confirm that they want to be reconsidered?

Yes. So how many more admits will there be ?

That's a very good question and one I can't answer. Usually, the institution uses an algorithm provided by expensive consultants to assess how many EA students can be expected to accept as well as how many RD students will show up (I'm assuming all the ED students show up minus a fraction for those who defer or have a personal reason for not matriculating). I understand UVA is aiming for a class of 3750, which sounds about right. What they can't assess well this year is how many will accept EA or even RD offers because COVID has thrown a monkey wrench into college admissions. UVA does not want a situation like VT had about three years ago when it tried out a new algorithm and wound up with far too many students accepting. Immediately after that, UVA started ED, because it, too, needed to have a better sense of how many students would accept offers (the "yield). Prior to Covid, there was a lot of nervousness about the fact that SLACs and other privates were pricing themselves out of reach for even UMC. So more and admitted more students were accepting UVA than in the past because of its value. Then Covid came and many families found their savings depleted, lost jobs or were laid off. That makes all the publics look a LOT more attractive to a financially-stressed family. Bearing that in mind, the wisest course of action for UVA is to admit a smaller RD class than usual and then wait and see how many EA and RD accept. They need to control because they can't handle more than the 3750 - it's not a school where dorm trailers can be brought in or hotels leased out (easily). Once the office knows that answer (May 1), then it will turn to the monstrous deferral list.

It is really sad that hardworking kids with kids with good stats can’t get into their stat flagship from TJ! I am sure lots of kids and parents are questioning if all those AP classes etc and going to TJ was worth it!

Why only TJ? Look, I'm not one who much cares about the back and forth about TJ. My kid doesn't want to go. Maybe couldn't get admitted or maybe could? Doesn't matter, DC isn't planning to apply and I don't care. But . . .

That doesn't mean that kids who go to their "normal" public, perform at a very high level, and may be just as well rounded (if not more so) than TJ kids are any less deserving of a spot at UVA. The ones with similar GPAs also work very hard, take lots of APs, etc.

What a tone deaf, offensive statement.

Did not intend to offend anyone. DCUM loves TJ and most parents want their kids to attend TJ. Jus pointed out the fact that since its so hard to get into TJ why bother if you can’t get into UvA? Did not mean to imply nonTJ kids are in anyway inferior or less deserving.

You are making huge assumptions. I would never want my kid to attend TJ nor would any of my friends. It is a total miserable grind. Lots and lots of Asian immigrant families see TJ as a path into UMC life for their kids. It is something like 70% Asian and very few AA or Hispanic kids. Weird social dynamic.

Just because your pea brain can’t handle the work and rigor doesn’t mean other people can’t do it with ease and fun.

You don't need to be at TJ to have work, rigor and fun. I know PLENTY of kids who have those things, easily so, not at TJ. They have gotten into top colleges, as well as done some other interesting things outside the non-academic setting. So stop.

I doubt your pea brain understands what true rigor is. But you’re probably honest about having a lot of fun with yourself. So whatever.

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1. Stop quoting allllll the prior comments.
2. Stop misusing Karen.
3. We can have a conversation without attacking each other.

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Anonymous wrote:So I had a kid enter UVA in 2009. He had a 1970 SAT on the old scale, which I just calculated would be a 1360 on the new scale. He was below the mean on the SAT both then and now by about the same amount.

Why is everybody saying that admissions are so much more competitive now, then? Yes, there are more applications, but the stats for those admitted and enrolling haven't changed all that much.

Yes, the statistics have changed dramatically. The entire world of college admissions has changed in just the last few years, not to mention the eleven years ago. My DD recently graduated. She would not get into UVA today, I am confident. Her GPA and test scores are too low for a white student from NOVA.

If you are applying from NoVA for UVA you need to be in the top ten percent of your class although some college counselors now say top five percent. The 75th percentile GPA of ENROLLED students last fall was a 4.48; median was 4.34 and 25th percentile was a 4.20. ACTs were 34 at the 75th percentile. SAT was 1480 at the 75th percentile. A 1360 would place around the 35th percentile of enrolled students. BUT, the lower percentiles are predominantly used for URMs, low-income, first-generation, unusually talents, athletes, legacies, and other special interest groups. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

you admitted that your son was accepted 12 years ago... how are you so certain that things are not different today or in particular this year when you cannot predict anything? What makes you an expert? Our school (NoVA public) normally has 15 accepted out of about 400.. right now, after EA, we are sitting at 5. FIVE. And I know a kid in the top 5% who got deferred in the ED round with a similar SAT to what you list who is an absolutely awesome well rounded kid with lots of ECs and leadership. My own son got accepted with a 1380 ED but he is top 2% of his class with a 4.6.

Except here's the thing: My 2009 kid was none of those things. He was an UMC white kid with no hooks from a NOVA public. He was in the 35th percentile of enrolled students then, too. So I'm not sure you're right about that. Lots of fear mongering and exaggerations going on.

Because the same tired refrain was being sung 12 years ago that's being sung today: it's impossible to get into UVA as an unhooked kid from NOVA unless your stats are off the charts because all the slots are reserved for hooks and kids from outside NOVA.

Also, there is no public high school in NOVA with 400 students where only 5 got into UVA EA. None. That number is inaccurate. I guarantee it.

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Our school (NoVA public) normally has 15 accepted out of about 400.. right now, after EA, we are sitting at 5. FIVE.

Also, there is no public high school in NOVA with 400 students where only 5 got into UVA EA. None. That number is inaccurate. I guarantee it.

Also, there is nobody in any school who knows for certain x number of kids got in to y school. Even the school admin doesn't know. None. That number is inaccurate. I guarantee it.

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well I just heard of one more kid, so right now in our LCPS school of 400, 6 total have been accepted that I know of. Two via ED and four via EA. Still trying to find out more but we kinda know all the top kids in the class and haven't dug anyone else up YET. But again, normally they do accept about 15. Hopefully that will be the case this year but it is sure not looking that way. I know of now 2 top 5% deferrals.

It is not impossible to get in, but it is really a long shot for just about everyone unless you have the top GPA, I will say again. Just heard of another kid well within the top 10% of the class who was deferred with a 1440 and great ECs including state level athletics. You all have can protest all you want but this is what we are all hearing right now. My DC has been talking to other accepted students in our county and the scuttlebutt is that everyone is talking about how many people are getting deferred from their schools.

My purpose is not to discourage people from applying but just to reiterate that it is not a sure thing no matter your stats, so have back up options. It will be interesting what happens with VA Tech EA when that comes out in the next week because I heard alot of similar stuff from the ED round there, alot of deferrals from people who thought they were in a "sea of green" on Naviance.

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Our school (NoVA public) normally has 15 accepted out of about 400.. right now, after EA, we are sitting at 5. FIVE.

Also, there is no public high school in NOVA with 400 students where only 5 got into UVA EA. None. That number is inaccurate. I guarantee it.

Also, there is nobody in any school who knows for certain x number of kids got in to y school. Even the school admin doesn't know. None. That number is inaccurate. I guarantee it.

Well that is not entirely true. It is reported on Naviance. Yes I suppose if it is not disclosed, no one knows... but why would a kid or counselor who knows of an acceptance not input it? I think you're right in that there are probably more, I can't imagine it's really this low. Time will tell.

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Anonymous wrote:1. Stop quoting allllll the prior comments.
2. Stop misusing Karen.
3. We can have a conversation without attacking each other.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:well I just heard of one more kid, so right now in our LCPS school of 400, 6 total have been accepted that I know of. Two via ED and four via EA. Still trying to find out more but we kinda know all the top kids in the class and haven't dug anyone else up YET. But again, normally they do accept about 15. Hopefully that will be the case this year but it is sure not looking that way. I know of now 2 top 5% deferrals.

It is not impossible to get in, but it is really a long shot for just about everyone unless you have the top GPA, I will say again. Just heard of another kid well within the top 10% of the class who was deferred with a 1440 and great ECs including state level athletics. You all have can protest all you want but this is what we are all hearing right now. My DC has been talking to other accepted students in our county and the scuttlebutt is that everyone is talking about how many people are getting deferred from their schools.

My purpose is not to discourage people from applying but just to reiterate that it is not a sure thing no matter your stats, so have back up options. It will be interesting what happens with VA Tech EA when that comes out in the next week because I heard alot of similar stuff from the ED round there, alot of deferrals from people who thought they were in a "sea of green" on Naviance.

Are you a high school student or a parent? In either case I feel really sorry for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:well I just heard of one more kid, so right now in our LCPS school of 400, 6 total have been accepted that I know of. Two via ED and four via EA. Still trying to find out more but we kinda know all the top kids in the class and haven't dug anyone else up YET. But again, normally they do accept about 15. Hopefully that will be the case this year but it is sure not looking that way. I know of now 2 top 5% deferrals.

It is not impossible to get in, but it is really a long shot for just about everyone unless you have the top GPA, I will say again. Just heard of another kid well within the top 10% of the class who was deferred with a 1440 and great ECs including state level athletics. You all have can protest all you want but this is what we are all hearing right now. My DC has been talking to other accepted students in our county and the scuttlebutt is that everyone is talking about how many people are getting deferred from their schools.

My purpose is not to discourage people from applying but just to reiterate that it is not a sure thing no matter your stats, so have back up options. It will be interesting what happens with VA Tech EA when that comes out in the next week because I heard alot of similar stuff from the ED round there, alot of deferrals from people who thought they were in a "sea of green" on Naviance.

Are you a high school student or a parent? In either case I feel really sorry for you.

I'm so glad thanks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Well that is not entirely true. It is reported on Naviance. ...Time will tell.

Yes, but at the end of the year. Not now. Time will tell indeed.