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Anonymous wrote:Kids who take all AP humanities should be looked on as favorably as those who are all AP STEM students. One is not better than the other, and this emphasis on all things STEM is ridiculous - especially at a liberal arts school.

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Then go to William& Mary or any of the other fine 40 Virginia institutions

[b]Why not UVA?

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The PP is complaining that too many rigorous stem courses are required to get in to UVA. My DS entered for engineering and shifted to politics. He received a great education. There is an institution for everyone in Virginia.

Which is odd because UVA has proportionately so few science and math majors.

Exactly. That’s the whole point. UVA needs to consider high-level humanities students the same way they do high-level STEM students. Their focus is the liberal arts, not STEM.

that is not a true statement. UVA has a huge engineering department -my own DD is in aerospace engineering. There’s also math. And the sciences, and the technology and data information majors. And music. And Arts & Crafts .and teaching. And nursing. Business. Pre-law. Etc. etc. etc. it is the state flagship got creating the leaders of tomorrow for the Commonwealth. Considering it takes only a class of 3750, UVA offers extraordinary opportunities to do whatever a student wants to study. UVA wants the best students possible-and Tests and GPAs and APs are a way to evaluate that. UVA wants the students who have pushed themselves those most in school while getting good grades. Remember also it wants well-rounded students. It active seeks out Eagle Scouts and Gold Star Girl Scouts.

Calm down.

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UVA's focus has always been and continues to be the social sciences and humanities. Tech is Virginia's STEM-focused school.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

NP. I get the outrage. It is hard to deal with the fact that your TJ kid with a 1590 can’t get into your state’s public flagship! It is ludicrous. My non-TJ kid with lower stats has no chance in RD. They are now prepared for the rejection and moving on.

Don't pay attention to all the noise, all we can do is try with the schools of our choice...my DD got in ED with 1510 and no ECs worth mentioning.

Above poster - what was your DD's GPA? I'm very happy for her (honestly) - but this just does not sound fair....

4.2 with 11 APs, mostly rigorous stem classes..she also applied to engineering which helps.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

NP. I get the outrage. It is hard to deal with the fact that your TJ kid with a 1590 can’t get into your state’s public flagship! It is ludicrous. My non-TJ kid with lower stats has no chance in RD. They are now prepared for the rejection and moving on.

Don't pay attention to all the noise, all we can do is try with the schools of our choice...my DD got in ED with 1510 and no ECs worth mentioning.

Above poster - what was your DD's GPA? I'm very happy for her (honestly) - but this just does not sound fair....

4.2 with 11 APs, mostly rigorous stem classes..she also applied to engineering which helps.

Congratulations! Women in Engineering is a focus for a lot of schools. Good for your DD to push herself in the rigorous STEM classes However I do know girls with similar stats were deferred from college of arts and science.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a friend whose kid had 36 ACT and 1580 SAT was deferred EA from FCPS HS. My kid said the only ones she knows who got in EA we’re taking multi-variable calculus.

TJ maybe. Any places, hard to believe.

No, All competitive publics offer multi calculus. If offered and not taken, then the counselor won’t check off the “most rigorous “ box.

Re: the bolded part. Give me a break. How many students at a typical NOVA public take multi variable? Maybe ten, at most? And even those are the most math/science focused. Does that mean humanities focused kids never get the “most rigorous” checked?

+1 Counselors absolutely don't require Multivariable calc to check most rigorous box.

I think people are assuming that all humanities applicants must have the MOST rigorous math to get into UVA. That is absolutely not true. My twins got in ED and are both only taking AP Calc AB this year as seniors (and both have a B - the only B they have ever had in school), had taken no advanced math at all until doing DE Pre-Calc last year. So no, you do not need multi-variable calc to get in, though perhaps you do for engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

NP. I get the outrage. It is hard to deal with the fact that your TJ kid with a 1590 can’t get into your state’s public flagship! It is ludicrous. My non-TJ kid with lower stats has no chance in RD. They are now prepared for the rejection and moving on.

Don't pay attention to all the noise, all we can do is try with the schools of our choice...my DD got in ED with 1510 and no ECs worth mentioning.

Above poster - what was your DD's GPA? I'm very happy for her (honestly) - but this just does not sound fair....

4.2 with 11 APs, mostly rigorous stem classes..she also applied to engineering which helps.

Congratulations! Women in Engineering is a focus for a lot of schools. Good for your DD to push herself in the rigorous STEM classes However I do know girls with similar stats were deferred from college of arts and science.

Yes, we recognized that she has a better chance at engineering admission going in. And since her planned major is CS, she can always transfer to the CoAS and stay with CS if she so desired.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

NP. I get the outrage. It is hard to deal with the fact that your TJ kid with a 1590 can’t get into your state’s public flagship! It is ludicrous. My non-TJ kid with lower stats has no chance in RD. They are now prepared for the rejection and moving on.

Don't pay attention to all the noise, all we can do is try with the schools of our choice...my DD got in ED with 1510 and no ECs worth mentioning.

Above poster - what was your DD's GPA? I'm very happy for her (honestly) - but this just does not sound fair....

4.2 with 11 APs, mostly rigorous stem classes..she also applied to engineering which helps.

Don't sell your daughter short. UVA is on record that it doesn't take gender into account in admissions and its statistics confirm that.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid had AP English Jr and Sr years, AP Spanish, AP Euro & US Histories, AP Gov't, AP Econ, AP Psych, and AP Stats. Highest math (assuming AP Stats doesn't count) was Pre-Calc. Got into UVA from an Arlington public as a humanities major with mostly As but quite a few Bs on the transcript.

By the way, legacy status only helps if you're from out of state. In that case, you're considered an in state applicant for admissions purposes.

UVA says that legacy does help for in state applicants. Also, they say that it’s a myth that OOS are considered in state for admissions purposes. I think the confusion comes from the fact that the acceptance rate for in state overall and OOS legacy are almost identical.

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Anonymous wrote:We were expecting a flat out rejection (which we're sure is coming in the RD round), but somehow my 1440/4.0/heavy involvement at a high level in a single EC kid from FCPS ended up being deferred.

PP from 2/6 - was that GPA weighted or unweighted?

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Is your child first-generation? president Ryan is pushing for those. Or low-income, blue ridge scholar, URM, Eagle Scout, etc.? Thank you

Nope. Not first gen, not URM, nothing that would give a bump in admissions. Yes to legacy but that’s no boost in state. Essays were likely good because that’s DCs area of expertise and the teachers indicated that LORs were favorable so all I can think is DC fared well holistically.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

NP. I get the outrage. It is hard to deal with the fact that your TJ kid with a 1590 can’t get into your state’s public flagship! It is ludicrous. My non-TJ kid with lower stats has no chance in RD. They are now prepared for the rejection and moving on.

Don't pay attention to all the noise, all we can do is try with the schools of our choice...my DD got in ED with 1510 and no ECs worth mentioning.

Above poster - what was your DD's GPA? I'm very happy for her (honestly) - but this just does not sound fair....

4.2 with 11 APs, mostly rigorous stem classes..she also applied to engineering which helps.

Congratulations! Women in Engineering is a focus for a lot of schools. Good for your DD to push herself in the rigorous STEM classes However I do know girls with similar stats were deferred from college of arts and science.

Yes, we recognized that she has a better chance at engineering admission going in. And since her planned major is CS, she can always transfer to the CoAS and stay with CS if she so desired.

Have fun at UVA. I was a female CS engineer, absolutely loved my time there. I really enjoyed the engineering core classes just as much as my CS classes. Congrats!

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is on record that it doesn't take into account demonstrated interest, doesn't practice yield protection, and doesn't favor one gender over another in admissions. You can either believe the school, or don't. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist, fine.

NP. I get the outrage. It is hard to deal with the fact that your TJ kid with a 1590 can’t get into your state’s public flagship! It is ludicrous. My non-TJ kid with lower stats has no chance in RD. They are now prepared for the rejection and moving on.

Don't pay attention to all the noise, all we can do is try with the schools of our choice...my DD got in ED with 1510 and no ECs worth mentioning.

Above poster - what was your DD's GPA? I'm very happy for her (honestly) - but this just does not sound fair....

4.2 with 11 APs, mostly rigorous stem classes..she also applied to engineering which helps.

Congratulations! Women in Engineering is a focus for a lot of schools. Good for your DD to push herself in the rigorous STEM classes However I do know girls with similar stats were deferred from college of arts and science.

Yes, we recognized that she has a better chance at engineering admission going in. And since her planned major is CS, she can always transfer to the CoAS and stay with CS if she so desired.

And apparently being selected as a rodman scholar allows you to take some really "fun" electives.
Have fun at UVA. I was a female CS engineer, absolutely loved my time there. I really enjoyed the engineering core classes just as much as my CS classes. Congrats!

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Anonymous wrote:Kids who take all AP humanities should be looked on as favorably as those who are all AP STEM students. One is not better than the other, and this emphasis on all things STEM is ridiculous - especially at a liberal arts school.

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Then go to William& Mary or any of the other fine 40 Virginia institutions

[b]Why not UVA?

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The PP is complaining that too many rigorous stem courses are required to get in to UVA. My DS entered for engineering and shifted to politics. He received a great education. There is an institution for everyone in Virginia.

Which is odd because UVA has proportionately so few science and math majors.

Exactly. That’s the whole point. UVA needs to consider high-level humanities students the same way they do high-level STEM students. Their focus is the liberal arts, not STEM.

that is not a true statement. UVA has a huge engineering department -my own DD is in aerospace engineering. There’s also math. And the sciences, and the technology and data information majors. And music. And Arts & Crafts .and teaching. And nursing. Business. Pre-law. Etc. etc. etc. it is the state flagship got creating the leaders of tomorrow for the Commonwealth. Considering it takes only a class of 3750, UVA offers extraordinary opportunities to do whatever a student wants to study. UVA wants the best students possible-and Tests and GPAs and APs are a way to evaluate that. UVA wants the students who have pushed themselves those most in school while getting good grades. Remember also it wants well-rounded students. It active seeks out Eagle Scouts and Gold Star Girl Scouts.

Calm down.

Seriously. Someone’s triggered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UVA's focus has always been and continues to be the social sciences and humanities. Tech is Virginia's STEM-focused school.

+1,000

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a friend whose kid had 36 ACT and 1580 SAT was deferred EA from FCPS HS. My kid said the only ones she knows who got in EA we’re taking multi-variable calculus.

TJ maybe. Any places, hard to believe.

No, All competitive publics offer multi calculus. If offered and not taken, then the counselor won’t check off the “most rigorous “ box.

Re: the bolded part. Give me a break. How many students at a typical NOVA public take multi variable? Maybe ten, at most? And even those are the most math/science focused. Does that mean humanities focused kids never get the “most rigorous” checked?

+1 Counselors absolutely don't require Multivariable calc to check most rigorous box.

I think people are assuming that all humanities applicants must have the MOST rigorous math to get into UVA. That is absolutely not true. My twins got in ED and are both only taking AP Calc AB this year as seniors (and both have a B - the only B they have ever had in school), had taken no advanced math at all until doing DE Pre-Calc last year. So no, you do not need multi-variable calc to get in, though perhaps you do for engineering.

DP. I’m perplexed as to why an applicant would need calculus at all if they are not applying to a STEM field. It’s always struck me as bizarre and a waste of a class that could be an advanced level foreign language or another humanities class.

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I’d also not that many kids with the highest level math and science classes do NOT take the highest level humanities classes - and this doesn’t seem to penalize them. Why is there a double standard?