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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a friend whose kid had 36 ACT and 1580 SAT was deferred EA from FCPS HS. My kid said the only ones she knows who got in EA we’re taking multi-variable calculus.

TJ maybe. Any places, hard to believe.


No, All competitive publics offer multi calculus. If offered and not taken, then the counselor won’t check off the “most rigorous “ box.


Re: the bolded part. Give me a break. How many students at a typical NOVA public take multi variable? Maybe ten, at most? And even those are the most math/science focused. Does that mean humanities focused kids never get the “most rigorous” checked?


+1 Counselors absolutely don't require Multivariable calc to check most rigorous box.


I think people are assuming that all humanities applicants must have the MOST rigorous math to get into UVA. That is absolutely not true. My twins got in ED and are both only taking AP Calc AB this year as seniors (and both have a B - the only B they have ever had in school), had taken no advanced math at all until doing DE Pre-Calc last year. So no, you do not need multi-variable calc to get in, though perhaps you do for engineering.


DP. I’m perplexed as to why an applicant would need calculus at all if they are not applying to a STEM field. It’s always struck me as bizarre and a waste of a class that could be an advanced level foreign language or another humanities class.


I posted about my twins above, they have to take a math course, so yeah they could have taken AP Stats and probably would have been happier to do so, but they also believe in challenging themselves. It is not taking anything away from another course option, my son's current course load is AP Human Geo, AP Gov, AP English Lit, AP Spanish, AP Calc AB and Physics honors. My Daughter is taking AP English Lit, AP Gov, AP Calc AB, honors physics and DE independent science research. She is pre-health professions type of major.
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Anonymous wrote:UVA's focus has always been and continues to be the social sciences and humanities. Tech is Virginia's STEM-focused school.



False. DD just graduated in aerospace engineering at UVA. Your statement is simplistic. Please go and learn more about the STEM courses offered at UVA. W&M started as no 1 (2 in the nation) the state offering a classical liberal education popular at the time. Later, Thomas Jefferson started UVA for the benefit of the Commonwealth to train the Commonwealth’s leaders of tomorrow, to educate future world citizens and to to fulfill the needs of the Commonwealth (hence nursing and teaching programs). It was in this environment that the sciences were taught and always taught well. Tech came along much later as a POLY technical school (not a tech school - Poly ion it’s name) to train the farmers, vets, poultry engineers, architects, nutritionists, clothing design, small business development, etc. And all the other polytechnic skills. It’s engineering school is very good but if you have the stats and can afford it, Purdue and GT (OOS) will land you a better job in the field. VT engineering is good as applied engineering. The UVA engineers tends to becomes managers on projects and tend to be paid more than the VT engineers.
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Anonymous wrote:UVA's focus has always been and continues to be the social sciences and humanities. Tech is Virginia's STEM-focused school.



False. DD just graduated in aerospace engineering at UVA. Your statement is simplistic. Please go and learn more about the STEM courses offered at UVA. W&M started as no 1 (2 in the nation) the state offering a classical liberal education popular at the time. Later, Thomas Jefferson started UVA for the benefit of the Commonwealth to train the Commonwealth’s leaders of tomorrow, to educate future world citizens and to to fulfill the needs of the Commonwealth (hence nursing and teaching programs). It was in this environment that the sciences were taught and always taught well. Tech came along much later as a POLY technical school (not a tech school - Poly ion it’s name) to train the farmers, vets, poultry engineers, architects, nutritionists, clothing design, small business development, etc. And all the other polytechnic skills. It’s engineering school is very good but if you have the stats and can afford it, Purdue and GT (OOS) will land you a better job in the field. VT engineering is good as applied engineering. The UVA engineers tends to becomes managers on projects and tend to be paid more than the VT engineers.


Oh stop it! You are going to make heads combust and be called a booster. On another note, don't ever bring up TJ with these people, you will promptly be called a racist and informed of all of the evil doings that he did. Not to mention the Commonwealth references, which is really code for "Southern" and you know...all Southern people are evil. The rest of your points are spot on though!
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Anonymous wrote:UVA's focus has always been and continues to be the social sciences and humanities. Tech is Virginia's STEM-focused school.



False. DD just graduated in aerospace engineering at UVA. Your statement is simplistic. Please go and learn more about the STEM courses offered at UVA. W&M started as no 1 (2 in the nation) the state offering a classical liberal education popular at the time. Later, Thomas Jefferson started UVA for the benefit of the Commonwealth to train the Commonwealth’s leaders of tomorrow, to educate future world citizens and to to fulfill the needs of the Commonwealth (hence nursing and teaching programs). It was in this environment that the sciences were taught and always taught well. Tech came along much later as a POLY technical school (not a tech school - Poly ion it’s name) to train the farmers, vets, poultry engineers, architects, nutritionists, clothing design, small business development, etc. And all the other polytechnic skills. It’s engineering school is very good but if you have the stats and can afford it, Purdue and GT (OOS) will land you a better job in the field. VT engineering is good as applied engineering. The UVA engineers tends to becomes managers on projects and tend to be paid more than the VT engineers.


Oh stop it! You are going to make heads combust and be called a booster. On another note, don't ever bring up TJ with these people, you will promptly be called a racist and informed of all of the evil doings that he did. Not to mention the Commonwealth references, which is really code for "Southern" and you know...all Southern people are evil. The rest of your points are spot on though!



Thanks. and I'm not a booster. And I didn't mentioned TJ. BTW, I loved VT. I really wanted one of my children to go there but they picked another. One of my kids went to GMU, which was also terrific for that child and that major. The schools are all different and serve different purposes. And have very different student bodies. You must go and visit and also learn the scores for the engineering departments of both. The fall first-year student profile for VT engineering students for 2019 was a 4.14; the average SAT math score was a 707; the average SAT Reading was a 6.52. Total SAT was a 1351. That's for ENGINEERING only. The best comparison I could find for UVA's Engineering was 2016-2017 (scores would be higher today), which was 97 percent were in their top ten percent of their high school class and median combined SAT scores of a 1421. (My DD was no. 1 in her class and had a 36 ACT and also submitted SAT II subject matter test scores). So, clearly, the UVA engineers have higher GPAs and test scores by 100 points. https://engineering.virginia.edu/future-undergrads/admissions#accordion93610.

As to the stats of all the students (not just engineering), UVA's incoming class last fall had a 75th percentile GPA of a 4.48, Median was a 4.34 and 25th percentile was a 4.20. 75th percentile SAT was a 1490. 75th percentile ACT was a 34. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

VT's 75th percentile was a 4.20 GPA, a median of 4.00 and a 25th percentile of 3.75. The 75th percentile SAT was a 1360, Median was a 1270 and the 25th percentile was a 1180. Sat 75th percentile was a 31; median 28; 25th percentile was a 25. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Those are very different classes.

So one of the questions you might ask your child is what kind of colleagues do they want to be with for four years? Statistically, they are very different student bodies. Does your child want to be a big fish in a big pond? Then maybe VT. They might struggle more in VA engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a friend whose kid had 36 ACT and 1580 SAT was deferred EA from FCPS HS. My kid said the only ones she knows who got in EA we’re taking multi-variable calculus.

TJ maybe. Any places, hard to believe.


No, All competitive publics offer multi calculus. If offered and not taken, then the counselor won’t check off the “most rigorous “ box.


Re: the bolded part. Give me a break. How many students at a typical NOVA public take multi variable? Maybe ten, at most? And even those are the most math/science focused. Does that mean humanities focused kids never get the “most rigorous” checked?


+1 Counselors absolutely don't require Multivariable calc to check most rigorous box.


I think people are assuming that all humanities applicants must have the MOST rigorous math to get into UVA. That is absolutely not true. My twins got in ED and are both only taking AP Calc AB this year as seniors (and both have a B - the only B they have ever had in school), had taken no advanced math at all until doing DE Pre-Calc last year. So no, you do not need multi-variable calc to get in, though perhaps you do for engineering.


DP. I’m perplexed as to why an applicant would need calculus at all if they are not applying to a STEM field. It’s always struck me as bizarre and a waste of a class that could be an advanced level foreign language or another humanities class.


I posted about my twins above, they have to take a math course, so yeah they could have taken AP Stats and probably would have been happier to do so, but they also believe in challenging themselves. It is not taking anything away from another course option, my son's current course load is AP Human Geo, AP Gov, AP English Lit, AP Spanish, AP Calc AB and Physics honors. My Daughter is taking AP English Lit, AP Gov, AP Calc AB, honors physics and DE independent science research. She is pre-health professions type of major.


excuse me while I barf
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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a friend whose kid had 36 ACT and 1580 SAT was deferred EA from FCPS HS. My kid said the only ones she knows who got in EA we’re taking multi-variable calculus.

TJ maybe. Any places, hard to believe.


No, All competitive publics offer multi calculus. If offered and not taken, then the counselor won’t check off the “most rigorous “ box.


Re: the bolded part. Give me a break. How many students at a typical NOVA public take multi variable? Maybe ten, at most? And even those are the most math/science focused. Does that mean humanities focused kids never get the “most rigorous” checked?


+1 Counselors absolutely don't require Multivariable calc to check most rigorous box.


I think people are assuming that all humanities applicants must have the MOST rigorous math to get into UVA. That is absolutely not true. My twins got in ED and are both only taking AP Calc AB this year as seniors (and both have a B - the only B they have ever had in school), had taken no advanced math at all until doing DE Pre-Calc last year. So no, you do not need multi-variable calc to get in, though perhaps you do for engineering.


DP. I’m perplexed as to why an applicant would need calculus at all if they are not applying to a STEM field. It’s always struck me as bizarre and a waste of a class that could be an advanced level foreign language or another humanities class.


I posted about my twins above, they have to take a math course, so yeah they could have taken AP Stats and probably would have been happier to do so, but they also believe in challenging themselves. It is not taking anything away from another course option, my son's current course load is AP Human Geo, AP Gov, AP English Lit, AP Spanish, AP Calc AB and Physics honors. My Daughter is taking AP English Lit, AP Gov, AP Calc AB, honors physics and DE independent science research. She is pre-health professions type of major.


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and yet it is exactly that attitude ("challenging oneself) that the top schools are looking for.
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Anonymous wrote:UVA's focus has always been and continues to be the social sciences and humanities. Tech is Virginia's STEM-focused school.



False. DD just graduated in aerospace engineering at UVA. Your statement is simplistic. Please go and learn more about the STEM courses offered at UVA. W&M started as no 1 (2 in the nation) the state offering a classical liberal education popular at the time. Later, Thomas Jefferson started UVA for the benefit of the Commonwealth to train the Commonwealth’s leaders of tomorrow, to educate future world citizens and to to fulfill the needs of the Commonwealth (hence nursing and teaching programs). It was in this environment that the sciences were taught and always taught well. Tech came along much later as a POLY technical school (not a tech school - Poly ion it’s name) to train the farmers, vets, poultry engineers, architects, nutritionists, clothing design, small business development, etc. And all the other polytechnic skills. It’s engineering school is very good but if you have the stats and can afford it, Purdue and GT (OOS) will land you a better job in the field. VT engineering is good as applied engineering. The UVA engineers tends to becomes managers on projects and tend to be paid more than the VT engineers.


OMG. You really need to stop. This is just so far-fetched and obviously wishful thinking.
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Anonymous wrote:UVA's focus has always been and continues to be the social sciences and humanities. Tech is Virginia's STEM-focused school.



False. DD just graduated in aerospace engineering at UVA. Your statement is simplistic. Please go and learn more about the STEM courses offered at UVA. W&M started as no 1 (2 in the nation) the state offering a classical liberal education popular at the time. Later, Thomas Jefferson started UVA for the benefit of the Commonwealth to train the Commonwealth’s leaders of tomorrow, to educate future world citizens and to to fulfill the needs of the Commonwealth (hence nursing and teaching programs). It was in this environment that the sciences were taught and always taught well. Tech came along much later as a POLY technical school (not a tech school - Poly ion it’s name) to train the farmers, vets, poultry engineers, architects, nutritionists, clothing design, small business development, etc. And all the other polytechnic skills. It’s engineering school is very good but if you have the stats and can afford it, Purdue and GT (OOS) will land you a better job in the field. VT engineering is good as applied engineering. The UVA engineers tends to becomes managers on projects and tend to be paid more than the VT engineers.


OMG. You really need to stop. This is just so far-fetched and obviously wishful thinking.
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No, it's been discussed many times in this forum. google it.
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Anonymous wrote:Heard from a friend whose kid had 36 ACT and 1580 SAT was deferred EA from FCPS HS. My kid said the only ones she knows who got in EA we’re taking multi-variable calculus.

TJ maybe. Any places, hard to believe.


No, All competitive publics offer multi calculus. If offered and not taken, then the counselor won’t check off the “most rigorous “ box.


Re: the bolded part. Give me a break. How many students at a typical NOVA public take multi variable? Maybe ten, at most? And even those are the most math/science focused. Does that mean humanities focused kids never get the “most rigorous” checked?


+1 Counselors absolutely don't require Multivariable calc to check most rigorous box.


I think people are assuming that all humanities applicants must have the MOST rigorous math to get into UVA. That is absolutely not true. My twins got in ED and are both only taking AP Calc AB this year as seniors (and both have a B - the only B they have ever had in school), had taken no advanced math at all until doing DE Pre-Calc last year. So no, you do not need multi-variable calc to get in, though perhaps you do for engineering.


DP. I’m perplexed as to why an applicant would need calculus at all if they are not applying to a STEM field. It’s always struck me as bizarre and a waste of a class that could be an advanced level foreign language or another humanities class.


I posted about my twins above, they have to take a math course, so yeah they could have taken AP Stats and probably would have been happier to do so, but they also believe in challenging themselves. It is not taking anything away from another course option, my son's current course load is AP Human Geo, AP Gov, AP English Lit, AP Spanish, AP Calc AB and Physics honors. My Daughter is taking AP English Lit, AP Gov, AP Calc AB, honors physics and DE independent science research. She is pre-health professions type of major.


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and yet it is exactly that attitude ("challenging oneself) that the top schools are looking for.


and that's why the kids are taking the courses -- not because they "believe in challenging themselves" but because they know colleges expect it. call a spade a spade
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I work as an engineer and I would say Virginia Tech grads outnumber UVA grads 10-1 at my office. No real advantage being a UVA grad when it comes to management track, either.
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Anonymous wrote:UVA's focus has always been and continues to be the social sciences and humanities. Tech is Virginia's STEM-focused school.



False. DD just graduated in aerospace engineering at UVA. Your statement is simplistic. Please go and learn more about the STEM courses offered at UVA. W&M started as no 1 (2 in the nation) the state offering a classical liberal education popular at the time. Later, Thomas Jefferson started UVA for the benefit of the Commonwealth to train the Commonwealth’s leaders of tomorrow, to educate future world citizens and to to fulfill the needs of the Commonwealth (hence nursing and teaching programs). It was in this environment that the sciences were taught and always taught well. Tech came along much later as a POLY technical school (not a tech school - Poly ion it’s name) to train the farmers, vets, poultry engineers, architects, nutritionists, clothing design, small business development, etc. And all the other polytechnic skills. It’s engineering school is very good but if you have the stats and can afford it, Purdue and GT (OOS) will land you a better job in the field. VT engineering is good as applied engineering. The UVA engineers tends to becomes managers on projects and tend to be paid more than the VT engineers.


Oh stop it! You are going to make heads combust and be called a booster. On another note, don't ever bring up TJ with these people, you will promptly be called a racist and informed of all of the evil doings that he did. Not to mention the Commonwealth references, which is really code for "Southern" and you know...all Southern people are evil. The rest of your points are spot on though!



Thanks. and I'm not a booster. And I didn't mentioned TJ. BTW, I loved VT. I really wanted one of my children to go there but they picked another. One of my kids went to GMU, which was also terrific for that child and that major. The schools are all different and serve different purposes. And have very different student bodies. You must go and visit and also learn the scores for the engineering departments of both. The fall first-year student profile for VT engineering students for 2019 was a 4.14; the average SAT math score was a 707; the average SAT Reading was a 6.52. Total SAT was a 1351. That's for ENGINEERING only. The best comparison I could find for UVA's Engineering was 2016-2017 (scores would be higher today), which was 97 percent were in their top ten percent of their high school class and median combined SAT scores of a 1421. (My DD was no. 1 in her class and had a 36 ACT and also submitted SAT II subject matter test scores). So, clearly, the UVA engineers have higher GPAs and test scores by 100 points. https://engineering.virginia.edu/future-undergrads/admissions#accordion93610.

As to the stats of all the students (not just engineering), UVA's incoming class last fall had a 75th percentile GPA of a 4.48, Median was a 4.34 and 25th percentile was a 4.20. 75th percentile SAT was a 1490. 75th percentile ACT was a 34. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

VT's 75th percentile was a 4.20 GPA, a median of 4.00 and a 25th percentile of 3.75. The 75th percentile SAT was a 1360, Median was a 1270 and the 25th percentile was a 1180. Sat 75th percentile was a 31; median 28; 25th percentile was a 25. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Those are very different classes.

So one of the questions you might ask your child is what kind of colleagues do they want to be with for four years? Statistically, they are very different student bodies. Does your child want to be a big fish in a big pond? Then maybe VT. They might struggle more in VA engineering.



So if DC had an 800 in SAT math (1520 total - first try), took AP Latin, got a 5 in AP Calc AB and is in Calc BC (not advanced for TJ), managed TJ but did not take the most rigorous classes there due to 20 hrs/week of performing arts etc..., are you saying that DC would not be challenged or surrounded by academically motivated students at VTech? (DC was rejected EA at UVA as legacy but has an offer from the Calhoun Discovery Program at VT. I went to UVA many moons ago - out of state as a safety because it was still much cheaper - my kid is so much brighter, more creative and has a national leadership title - flat out rejected - I gather it was the TJ GPA - being an Asian from NOVA probably didn't help.)
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Anonymous wrote:I work as an engineer and I would say Virginia Tech grads outnumber UVA grads 10-1 at my office. No real advantage being a UVA grad when it comes to management track, either.



Understandable since VT has 11,000 engineering students at any one time whereas UVA has only 2650 engineering students. Do you have a grad degree? Most of my DC’s engineering colleagues are getting at least a master’s degree
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Anonymous wrote:UVA's focus has always been and continues to be the social sciences and humanities. Tech is Virginia's STEM-focused school.



False. DD just graduated in aerospace engineering at UVA. Your statement is simplistic. Please go and learn more about the STEM courses offered at UVA. W&M started as no 1 (2 in the nation) the state offering a classical liberal education popular at the time. Later, Thomas Jefferson started UVA for the benefit of the Commonwealth to train the Commonwealth’s leaders of tomorrow, to educate future world citizens and to to fulfill the needs of the Commonwealth (hence nursing and teaching programs). It was in this environment that the sciences were taught and always taught well. Tech came along much later as a POLY technical school (not a tech school - Poly ion it’s name) to train the farmers, vets, poultry engineers, architects, nutritionists, clothing design, small business development, etc. And all the other polytechnic skills. It’s engineering school is very good but if you have the stats and can afford it, Purdue and GT (OOS) will land you a better job in the field. VT engineering is good as applied engineering. The UVA engineers tends to becomes managers on projects and tend to be paid more than the VT engineers.


Oh stop it! You are going to make heads combust and be called a booster. On another note, don't ever bring up TJ with these people, you will promptly be called a racist and informed of all of the evil doings that he did. Not to mention the Commonwealth references, which is really code for "Southern" and you know...all Southern people are evil. The rest of your points are spot on though!



Thanks. and I'm not a booster. And I didn't mentioned TJ. BTW, I loved VT. I really wanted one of my children to go there but they picked another. One of my kids went to GMU, which was also terrific for that child and that major. The schools are all different and serve different purposes. And have very different student bodies. You must go and visit and also learn the scores for the engineering departments of both. The fall first-year student profile for VT engineering students for 2019 was a 4.14; the average SAT math score was a 707; the average SAT Reading was a 6.52. Total SAT was a 1351. That's for ENGINEERING only. The best comparison I could find for UVA's Engineering was 2016-2017 (scores would be higher today), which was 97 percent were in their top ten percent of their high school class and median combined SAT scores of a 1421. (My DD was no. 1 in her class and had a 36 ACT and also submitted SAT II subject matter test scores). So, clearly, the UVA engineers have higher GPAs and test scores by 100 points. https://engineering.virginia.edu/future-undergrads/admissions#accordion93610.

As to the stats of all the students (not just engineering), UVA's incoming class last fall had a 75th percentile GPA of a 4.48, Median was a 4.34 and 25th percentile was a 4.20. 75th percentile SAT was a 1490. 75th percentile ACT was a 34. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

VT's 75th percentile was a 4.20 GPA, a median of 4.00 and a 25th percentile of 3.75. The 75th percentile SAT was a 1360, Median was a 1270 and the 25th percentile was a 1180. Sat 75th percentile was a 31; median 28; 25th percentile was a 25. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Those are very different classes.

So one of the questions you might ask your child is what kind of colleagues do they want to be with for four years? Statistically, they are very different student bodies. Does your child want to be a big fish in a big pond? Then maybe VT. They might struggle more in VA engineering.



So if DC had an 800 in SAT math (1520 total - first try), took AP Latin, got a 5 in AP Calc AB and is in Calc BC (not advanced for TJ), managed TJ but did not take the most rigorous classes there due to 20 hrs/week of performing arts etc..., are you saying that DC would not be challenged or surrounded by academically motivated students at VTech? (DC was rejected EA at UVA as legacy but has an offer from the Calhoun Discovery Program at VT. I went to UVA many moons ago - out of state as a safety because it was still much cheaper - my kid is so much brighter, more creative and has a national leadership title - flat out rejected - I gather it was the TJ GPA - being an Asian from NOVA probably didn't help.)



Isn’t the Calhoun for underrepresented students? Is your DC a woman? Congrats!
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Anonymous wrote:UVA's focus has always been and continues to be the social sciences and humanities. Tech is Virginia's STEM-focused school.



False. DD just graduated in aerospace engineering at UVA. Your statement is simplistic. Please go and learn more about the STEM courses offered at UVA. W&M started as no 1 (2 in the nation) the state offering a classical liberal education popular at the time. Later, Thomas Jefferson started UVA for the benefit of the Commonwealth to train the Commonwealth’s leaders of tomorrow, to educate future world citizens and to to fulfill the needs of the Commonwealth (hence nursing and teaching programs). It was in this environment that the sciences were taught and always taught well. Tech came along much later as a POLY technical school (not a tech school - Poly ion it’s name) to train the farmers, vets, poultry engineers, architects, nutritionists, clothing design, small business development, etc. And all the other polytechnic skills. It’s engineering school is very good but if you have the stats and can afford it, Purdue and GT (OOS) will land you a better job in the field. VT engineering is good as applied engineering. The UVA engineers tends to becomes managers on projects and tend to be paid more than the VT engineers.


Oh stop it! You are going to make heads combust and be called a booster. On another note, don't ever bring up TJ with these people, you will promptly be called a racist and informed of all of the evil doings that he did. Not to mention the Commonwealth references, which is really code for "Southern" and you know...all Southern people are evil. The rest of your points are spot on though!



Thanks. and I'm not a booster. And I didn't mentioned TJ. BTW, I loved VT. I really wanted one of my children to go there but they picked another. One of my kids went to GMU, which was also terrific for that child and that major. The schools are all different and serve different purposes. And have very different student bodies. You must go and visit and also learn the scores for the engineering departments of both. The fall first-year student profile for VT engineering students for 2019 was a 4.14; the average SAT math score was a 707; the average SAT Reading was a 6.52. Total SAT was a 1351. That's for ENGINEERING only. The best comparison I could find for UVA's Engineering was 2016-2017 (scores would be higher today), which was 97 percent were in their top ten percent of their high school class and median combined SAT scores of a 1421. (My DD was no. 1 in her class and had a 36 ACT and also submitted SAT II subject matter test scores). So, clearly, the UVA engineers have higher GPAs and test scores by 100 points. https://engineering.virginia.edu/future-undergrads/admissions#accordion93610.

As to the stats of all the students (not just engineering), UVA's incoming class last fall had a 75th percentile GPA of a 4.48, Median was a 4.34 and 25th percentile was a 4.20. 75th percentile SAT was a 1490. 75th percentile ACT was a 34. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp

VT's 75th percentile was a 4.20 GPA, a median of 4.00 and a 25th percentile of 3.75. The 75th percentile SAT was a 1360, Median was a 1270 and the 25th percentile was a 1180. Sat 75th percentile was a 31; median 28; 25th percentile was a 25. https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Those are very different classes.

So one of the questions you might ask your child is what kind of colleagues do they want to be with for four years? Statistically, they are very different student bodies. Does your child want to be a big fish in a big pond? Then maybe VT. They might struggle more in VA engineering.



So if DC had an 800 in SAT math (1520 total - first try), took AP Latin, got a 5 in AP Calc AB and is in Calc BC (not advanced for TJ), managed TJ but did not take the most rigorous classes there due to 20 hrs/week of performing arts etc..., are you saying that DC would not be challenged or surrounded by academically motivated students at VTech? (DC was rejected EA at UVA as legacy but has an offer from the Calhoun Discovery Program at VT. I went to UVA many moons ago - out of state as a safety because it was still much cheaper - my kid is so much brighter, more creative and has a national leadership title - flat out rejected - I gather it was the TJ GPA - being an Asian from NOVA probably didn't help.)


My response was sarcasm...BTW, you did bring up TJ or Thomas Jefferson, the man not the High School in your previous post. SMH
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