Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you to the poster sharing 2019 stats.

The ones that I posted to make fun of the "invasion" poster who was over-inflating the numbers 4x?

You're welcome.

Hey, how many migrants are you putting up?

Like I posted earlier, what would I need to put them up? The people I know who are here illegally are hard working and take care of themselves, their families here in the US, and their families back in their home country. They pay taxes and contribute positively to our society.

Your bubble is obviously tiny.

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I think shutting the border may solve Mexico’s unwillingness to work together very quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you to the poster sharing 2019 stats.

The ones that I posted to make fun of the "invasion" poster who was over-inflating the numbers 4x?

You're welcome.

Hey, how many migrants are you putting up?

Like I posted earlier, what would I need to put them up? The people I know who are here illegally are hard working and take care of themselves, their families here in the US, and their families back in their home country. They pay taxes and contribute positively to our society.

Your bubble is obviously tiny.

How many do you know personally?

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Like I posted earlier, what would I need to put them up? The people I know who are here illegally are hard working and take care of themselves, their families here in the US, and their families back in their home country. They pay taxes and contribute positively to our society.

Talk to someone at a local food pantry. Or, at a church who provides weekend meals to kids at a local school that is 60% immigrant (likely undocumented).

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Consequences of the border shutdown?
Do you Democrats even care?

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According to today's Channel 4 Evening News:
The biggest imports from Mexico:
Beer, wine and snack foods.
I'll be just fine.

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Like I posted earlier, what would I need to put them up? The people I know who are here illegally are hard working and take care of themselves, their families here in the US, and their families back in their home country. They pay taxes and contribute positively to our society.

Talk to someone at a local food pantry. Or, at a church who provides weekend meals to kids at a local school that is 60% immigrant (likely undocumented).

I'd bet most of those kids are US citizens.

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Anonymous wrote:I think shutting the border may solve Mexico’s unwillingness to work together very quickly.

THIS. I think it's a quick way to solve this problem. Mexico needs to assemble shelters on *their* side of the border to house these people if they're going to wait for asylum claims to be heard.

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Anonymous wrote:100,000 illegal persons entering a month.
Definition of an invasion.

Citation? Preferably not your ass.

This isn't from my ass.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Do you know how to read a chart? Snort. Where exactly does it say 100k/month?

I do think it’s your ass.

I should have made it clear that I'm an NP on this particular post.

Yes, I see the statistics, and they're not close to 100K a month. So I cited from a .gov site, which seems to be overlooked by many.

And even though it's not close to 100k, I fail to see how adding more struggling folks to our divided and suffering country benefits our native-born and naturalized citizens.

So laugh all you want. Claim that stats are blown out of people's asses. But YOU'LL end up paying for someone else's healthcare at the very least. Maybe you'll luck out with the schools, however, b/c you have enough $ to go private - or you're in an "elitist" part of town. But others will be picking up that slack, too.

Too many libs are so short-sighted. Long gone are my days as a Dem!

Thank you.

+100

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Anonymous wrote:DP- my neighborhood school is 65% low income and ESOL, mostly Hispanic. They can’t all be the children of corporate employees or have been here for x generations.
It does look like an invasion, neighborhood families (the ones who have been here for many years in fact) rarely send their kids to this school.

How exactly does it "look like an invasion"?

Middle class families don’t find the teaching rigorous enough. Tons of time spent on discipline and remedial instruction. Very few afterschool activities because nobody wants to organize them and/or pay for them.
Basically, this school now “belongs” to low income ESOL students. They are the focus.

Odd interpretation of invasion.

Let me guess: you send your kids to private and so have no idea what the PP is talking about. Idiot.
-DP

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Anonymous wrote:And, is ANY admin going to try and work with Congress to address the influx of a large number of people who will be a burden on the social safety network in the US, be it curtailing the influx or strengthening the system to try and accommodate them?

How are they a burden on the social safety net when they are ineligible to receive federal social safety net funds?

Healthcare for one, genius

ERs can't say no to helping people. Many illegal immigrants use the hospital ERs when they're sick. And if they can't pay, guess what? The ER won't say no again if another emergency arises and they are in collections.

babies? My niece works in the OB ward of a major hospital. Who's paying for the delivery and after care?

schools? Again - schools don't turn down children who have entered the country illegally. They will receive free breakfast and lunch and ESOL services until 21, if necessary. Translation services are used during meetings. Sometimes there's a certified ESOL counselor who's hired, too. School allocations come in one pot and monies are distributed based on need. So English classroom sizes increase, for example, in order to create more ESOL classes. Your average, hard-working child will be in classes of 30+, with kids of mixed abilities. These are PUBLICLY funded measures WE pay for. It doesn't come out of any president's a**.

It sounds harsh, but it's the truth.

Furthermore, for the person using all caps regarding the "crisis," it is a crisis. I have a friend in immigration who's been sent all over the place to assist in processing newcomers. I believe they requested to hire more immigration judges b/c the few they had weren't enough to process people through quickly enough. This led to other issues - newcomers who didn't receive legal support in a timely fashion, for example.

So it's easy to call everyone a racist when you're sitting behind your television sipping your wine. Try being in the courts when you see lines of people waiting for their time - and some in cuffs b/c they're criminals and rapists and child molesters.

And you should turn to C-Span to see the actual questioning of those directly involved in this mess.

So someone has to find an answer. If this is the land of immigrants, then we need to figure out how to balance THEIR needs with the needs of our citizens (native born and naturalized).

Do you just let any door-to-door salesperson into your house? Do you entertain all telemarketers? I think not. I'm guessing you're choosy about whom you allow into your life. So what you practice at home as a private citizen should guide your beliefs in immigration. Not every person can enter our land. Look at Europe - Italy especially - and learn from them.

If this is an international crisis, then these leaders better figure out steps to take - cuz it ain't workin'!

ERs wouldn't be an issue IF WE FIXED OUR DAMN HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. And that's an area where you Republicans have proven yourselves totally incompetent and totally unqualified to even speak anymore.

As for schools, a majority of school funding typically comes from property taxes and guess what, those people pay rent, and that's where the landowners get the money for property taxes. But that doesn't stop Republicans from lying and falsely claiming it's free.

They occupy these houses like sardines occupy it's can - 3 bdr 1 bath house hosts up to 15 people with few kids. They don't cover the school $$$, breakfasts $$$, special programs $$$$ even remotely.
Rent, school, food, clothing, transportation, gas/power/water, cell phones, health care, hair cuts doesn't happen on below minimum wage. IF they pay taxes, it doean't happen even remotely (but they don't).
It's not real in this country to make below minimum wage, have one+ kid and be called a great contributor to this country.
And don't forget hundreds of millions of dollars wired to their native countries. They are leeches.

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Anonymous wrote:You're a lunatic, 22:47.

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I'd love to know exactly how "fixing our healthcare system" would prevent illegal immigrants from receiving free healthcare at our ERs - well, free for them. The rest of us wind up paying for it.

I'd also love to know how many illegal immigrants 22:47 is personally sponsoring - feeding, housing, clothing, and educating.

Not PP, but why would anyone need to house and feed them? The undocumented people I know bust their ass, pay taxes, and support not only their families here but more back at home.

All bull.
How do you know that they are illegal aliens and that they pay taxes? You are usinf their services or something?
If they are able to support themselves on the wages they make AND send money back home that means only one thing - they are taking desirable jobs from our blue color workers.
They MUST go.

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Anonymous wrote:You're a lunatic, 22:47.

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I'd love to know exactly how "fixing our healthcare system" would prevent illegal immigrants from receiving free healthcare at our ERs - well, free for them. The rest of us wind up paying for it.

I'd also love to know how many illegal immigrants 22:47 is personally sponsoring - feeding, housing, clothing, and educating.

Not PP, but why would anyone need to house and feed them? The undocumented people I know bust their ass, pay taxes, and support not only their families here but more back at home.

All bull.
How do you know that they are illegal aliens and that they pay taxes? You are usinf their services or something?
If they are able to support themselves on the wages they make AND send money back home that means only one thing - they are taking desirable jobs from our blue color workers.
They MUST go.

We met a few families through friends. The majority work for a large company and pay taxes, etc. We've met and had dinner together a few times over the years. Stay in touch through our friends. They don't live in the immediate area.

They work grueling factory jobs in the farm/meat/poultry industry.

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Anonymous wrote:Perhaps first stop the hemorrhaging of health care dollars to illegal invaders?

No amount of remedies will be enough to cure central and South American invaders.

OMGERD!! INVADERS!!! PANIC!!!

I guarantee you’re childless and alone.

And sick in the bathroom.

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Anonymous wrote:According to today's Channel 4 Evening News:
The biggest imports from Mexico:
Beer, wine and snack foods.
I'll be just fine.

''Oh, but an avocado will cost $5 !!".
Libs will give their country away for a snack, you should know it by now.