Is there or isn’t there a crisis on the border?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:100,000 illegal persons entering a month.
Definition of an invasion.


Citation? Preferably not your ass.



This isn't from my ass.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:100,000 illegal persons entering a month.
Definition of an invasion.


Citation? Preferably not your ass.



This isn't from my ass.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration




Do you know how to read a chart? Snort. Where exactly does it say 100k/month?

I do think it’s your ass.
Anonymous
Here is a math problem for you. Feel free to use a calculator.

What is 521,090 divided by 12?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:100,000 illegal persons entering a month.
Definition of an invasion.


Citation? Preferably not your ass.



This isn't from my ass.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration




Do you know how to read a chart? Snort. Where exactly does it say 100k/month?

I do think it’s your ass.


I should have made it clear that I'm an NP on this particular post.

Yes, I see the statistics, and they're not close to 100K a month. So I cited from a .gov site, which seems to be overlooked by many.

And even though it's not close to 100k, I fail to see how adding more struggling folks to our divided and suffering country benefits our native-born and naturalized citizens.

So laugh all you want. Claim that stats are blown out of people's asses. But YOU'LL end up paying for someone else's healthcare at the very least. Maybe you'll luck out with the schools, however, b/c you have enough $ to go private - or you're in an "elitist" part of town. But others will be picking up that slack, too.

Too many libs are so short-sighted. Long gone are my days as a Dem!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:More like half of that.



https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/28/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/


Do you know how to read numbers? Your graph is three years old, you fool.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:100,000 illegal persons entering a month.
Definition of an invasion.


Citation? Preferably not your ass.



This isn't from my ass.

https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration




Do you know how to read a chart? Snort. Where exactly does it say 100k/month?

I do think it’s your ass.


I should have made it clear that I'm an NP on this particular post.

Yes, I see the statistics, and they're not close to 100K a month. So I cited from a .gov site, which seems to be overlooked by many.

And even though it's not close to 100k, I fail to see how adding more struggling folks to our divided and suffering country benefits our native-born and naturalized citizens.

So laugh all you want. Claim that stats are blown out of people's asses. But YOU'LL end up paying for someone else's healthcare at the very least. Maybe you'll luck out with the schools, however, b/c you have enough $ to go private - or you're in an "elitist" part of town. But others will be picking up that slack, too.

Too many libs are so short-sighted. Long gone are my days as a Dem!


Thank you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More like half of that.



https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/28/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/


Do you know how to read numbers? Your graph is three years old, you fool.



There is a lag in time for research data.

DHS only goes up until 2015:
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/18_1214_PLCY_pops-est-report.pdf

Oh wait this one is 2016 - figure 2 is fascinating:
https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/BSMR_OIS_2016.pdf

Anonymous
Thank you to the poster sharing 2019 stats.
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Anonymous wrote:And, is ANY admin going to try and work with Congress to address the influx of a large number of people who will be a burden on the social safety network in the US, be it curtailing the influx or strengthening the system to try and accommodate them?


How are they a burden on the social safety net when they are ineligible to receive federal social safety net funds?



Healthcare for one, genius

ERs can't say no to helping people. Many illegal immigrants use the hospital ERs when they're sick. And if they can't pay, guess what? The ER won't say no again if another emergency arises and they are in collections.

babies? My niece works in the OB ward of a major hospital. Who's paying for the delivery and after care?

schools? Again - schools don't turn down children who have entered the country illegally. They will receive free breakfast and lunch and ESOL services until 21, if necessary. Translation services are used during meetings. Sometimes there's a certified ESOL counselor who's hired, too. School allocations come in one pot and monies are distributed based on need. So English classroom sizes increase, for example, in order to create more ESOL classes. Your average, hard-working child will be in classes of 30+, with kids of mixed abilities. These are PUBLICLY funded measures WE pay for. It doesn't come out of any president's a**.

It sounds harsh, but it's the truth.

Furthermore, for the person using all caps regarding the "crisis," it is a crisis. I have a friend in immigration who's been sent all over the place to assist in processing newcomers. I believe they requested to hire more immigration judges b/c the few they had weren't enough to process people through quickly enough. This led to other issues - newcomers who didn't receive legal support in a timely fashion, for example.

So it's easy to call everyone a racist when you're sitting behind your television sipping your wine. Try being in the courts when you see lines of people waiting for their time - and some in cuffs b/c they're criminals and rapists and child molesters.

And you should turn to C-Span to see the actual questioning of those directly involved in this mess.

So someone has to find an answer. If this is the land of immigrants, then we need to figure out how to balance THEIR needs with the needs of our citizens (native born and naturalized).

Do you just let any door-to-door salesperson into your house? Do you entertain all telemarketers? I think not. I'm guessing you're choosy about whom you allow into your life. So what you practice at home as a private citizen should guide your beliefs in immigration. Not every person can enter our land. Look at Europe - Italy especially - and learn from them.

If this is an international crisis, then these leaders better figure out steps to take - cuz it ain't workin'!


+1,000,000
Well said.


+2,000,000

I did not vote for Trump. If anything, I am thrilled that he is addressing this issue. Illegal immigration affects my life on a daily basis. Needs to be addressed. I don’t believe the Democrats want to fix the problem. We’ll see what Trump ends up doing.


Hope Trump shuts down the border TODAY. Or at least this week.

Mexico has been warned. They need to corporate. Why aren’t they?


Because “corporate” isn’t a verb.

Cooperate, Einstein.

At least I know how to spell it.


It obviously was a spelling error and Sniper Mouth over here has to latch onto a spelling error since they lost the argument.

Exactly. The current Congress REFUSES to address this crisis. For that reason, I hope Trump DOES shut the border. If that’s what it takes, so be it.

Democrats prefer business as usual. Why???

Crickets.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Thank you to the poster sharing 2019 stats.


The ones that I posted to make fun of the "invasion" poster who was over-inflating the numbers 4x?

You're welcome.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you to the poster sharing 2019 stats.


The ones that I posted to make fun of the "invasion" poster who was over-inflating the numbers 4x?

You're welcome.


Hey, how many migrants are you putting up?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And, is ANY admin going to try and work with Congress to address the influx of a large number of people who will be a burden on the social safety network in the US, be it curtailing the influx or strengthening the system to try and accommodate them?


How are they a burden on the social safety net when they are ineligible to receive federal social safety net funds?



Healthcare for one, genius

ERs can't say no to helping people. Many illegal immigrants use the hospital ERs when they're sick. And if they can't pay, guess what? The ER won't say no again if another emergency arises and they are in collections.

babies? My niece works in the OB ward of a major hospital. Who's paying for the delivery and after care?

schools? Again - schools don't turn down children who have entered the country illegally. They will receive free breakfast and lunch and ESOL services until 21, if necessary. Translation services are used during meetings. Sometimes there's a certified ESOL counselor who's hired, too. School allocations come in one pot and monies are distributed based on need. So English classroom sizes increase, for example, in order to create more ESOL classes. Your average, hard-working child will be in classes of 30+, with kids of mixed abilities. These are PUBLICLY funded measures WE pay for. It doesn't come out of any president's a**.

It sounds harsh, but it's the truth.

Furthermore, for the person using all caps regarding the "crisis," it is a crisis. I have a friend in immigration who's been sent all over the place to assist in processing newcomers. I believe they requested to hire more immigration judges b/c the few they had weren't enough to process people through quickly enough. This led to other issues - newcomers who didn't receive legal support in a timely fashion, for example.

So it's easy to call everyone a racist when you're sitting behind your television sipping your wine. Try being in the courts when you see lines of people waiting for their time - and some in cuffs b/c they're criminals and rapists and child molesters.

And you should turn to C-Span to see the actual questioning of those directly involved in this mess.

So someone has to find an answer. If this is the land of immigrants, then we need to figure out how to balance THEIR needs with the needs of our citizens (native born and naturalized).

Do you just let any door-to-door salesperson into your house? Do you entertain all telemarketers? I think not. I'm guessing you're choosy about whom you allow into your life. So what you practice at home as a private citizen should guide your beliefs in immigration. Not every person can enter our land. Look at Europe - Italy especially - and learn from them.

If this is an international crisis, then these leaders better figure out steps to take - cuz it ain't workin'!


+1,000,000
Well said.


+2,000,000

I did not vote for Trump. If anything, I am thrilled that he is addressing this issue. Illegal immigration affects my life on a daily basis. Needs to be addressed. I don’t believe the Democrats want to fix the problem. We’ll see what Trump ends up doing.


Hope Trump shuts down the border TODAY. Or at least this week.

Mexico has been warned. They need to corporate. Why aren’t they?


Because “corporate” isn’t a verb.

Cooperate, Einstein.

At least I know how to spell it.


It obviously was a spelling error and Sniper Mouth over here has to latch onto a spelling error since they lost the argument.

Exactly. The current Congress REFUSES to address this crisis. For that reason, I hope Trump DOES shut the border. If that’s what it takes, so be it.

Democrats prefer business as usual. Why???

Crickets.



The GOP controlled the House, Senate, and White House for 2 years. How did they address the issue? Oh wait - they didn't.

Trump couldn't even get his own Rs in Congress to support it.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thank you to the poster sharing 2019 stats.


The ones that I posted to make fun of the "invasion" poster who was over-inflating the numbers 4x?

You're welcome.


Hey, how many migrants are you putting up?


Like I posted earlier, what would I need to put them up? The people I know who are here illegally are hard working and take care of themselves, their families here in the US, and their families back in their home country. They pay taxes and contribute positively to our society.

Anonymous
Please look up the definition of "Apprehensions"
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