Why do Rs hate the LGBTQ community?

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

OP here. I am totally fine with this.

OP - what exactly are you "fine" with? Because I am not fine with this "pressure" at all. This pressure started when my kids were in HS....the whole BLM movement....and pressure to make their Instagram profile all black...and that if they didn't it meant they were racist.

Everyone has the right to display a pride flag on their private property.
Everyone has the same equal right to not display a pride flag on their private property. That doesn't mean they don't respect LGBTQ+.

When did it become wrong to make this statement: I don't believe in the LGBTQ+ lifestyle but to each their own -- you do you. I still respect LGBTQ+ and believe they deserve equal rights.

This "pressure" is everywhere, and it's wrong. The "pressure" to believe in and fully embrace/accept the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. The "popularization/pressure" and "trend" to join the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. Wrong.

I am fine with teacher not hanging up posters. They can go in the hallway. Not needed in the classroom.

But that wasn't the point of the teacher's post. The point was about the people pressuring them to do so and even worse...then insinuating that they were MAGA or R for not giving in.

My point is that everyone needs to take a step back and calm down. The extremists on both sides are making a mountain out of a molehill. That will start with turning off Fox News and all of the other highly partisan media.

Sorry but no. You don’t get to teach these materials in a classroom, tell parents they are bigots if they want an opt out, and then claim we all need to calm down.

Leave the kids alone.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

OP here. I am totally fine with this.

OP - what exactly are you "fine" with? Because I am not fine with this "pressure" at all. This pressure started when my kids were in HS....the whole BLM movement....and pressure to make their Instagram profile all black...and that if they didn't it meant they were racist.

Everyone has the right to display a pride flag on their private property.
Everyone has the same equal right to not display a pride flag on their private property. That doesn't mean they don't respect LGBTQ+.

When did it become wrong to make this statement: I don't believe in the LGBTQ+ lifestyle but to each their own -- you do you. I still respect LGBTQ+ and believe they deserve equal rights.

This "pressure" is everywhere, and it's wrong. The "pressure" to believe in and fully embrace/accept the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. The "popularization/pressure" and "trend" to join the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. Wrong.

My white boys went to Wilson (and then JR) and have never once put a black profile or did rainbows, and not once have they been accused of being racist or anti-gay or felt a modicum of pressure to do so. In fact, I’m IG friends with their best friends (including 2 who went to GDS) and I haven’t seen any of that from any of them. I mostly see poorly lit photos of them hanging out or acting totally stupid. Not a single one has questioned their sexuality or had anxiety about this. They’re still goofy white guys whose circle includes boys or all colors and religion and sexuality, as well as girls.

There’s no indoctrination or pressure. It’s made up because you have anxiety. We’ve told our kids that they have privilege and to use it for good. Do they like everything or agree with everyone? No. But if it’s an article in the school paper or a critique of something in a discussion, like most normal, well-adjusted people, they let it roll off their backs. The world doesn’t revolve around them.

The "pressure" is not made up. My kids witnessed it. Had nothing to do with anxiety. Just because your kids didn't witness any pressure doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Do you accuse the teacher who posted about the pressure of making it up too?

Yup, I do.
There are a lot of anxious people around these parts.
A lot of people who feel like they’re owed something.
A lot of people who are intrenched in their identity, see Think Again by Adam Grant.
A lot of people who have scarcity-mindsets, see Carol Dweck.
A lot of people don’t have emotional fortitude and/or believe compassion is a weakness.

People can ask for a poster or anything. You can say no. If you feel like they think you’re racist of anti-LGBTQ, that’s on you. (See tons of work in CBT.) Personally, I think you probably are and rather than grow or learn, you double down because you’re afraid of admitting it.

I applaud your devotion to self help books but I am still not voting for what you're selling.

NP here. They aren’t self help books. I think that the PP is spot-on. Nailed it.

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Anonymous wrote:They’re rabid about trans women, but seem oblivious to trans men.

Advocating shooting trans people in a bathroom is wild. Just know that people like that, and people who protest pride events are presumed to be self-hating queers. You’re not scary. You’re pitiful.

Gee, it's almost as if men commit 95-98% of violent crime and men's propensity to criminality, especially sex crimes, only rises when they are also cross-dressers!

But, yes, why would we be more worried about cross-dressing males trying to gain access to their favorite prey, women and children, than about cross-dressing females? It must be bigotry!

This unrelenting arrogance and callousness that has you demanding everyone put women and children at risk to please you is why everyone sane despises you and your predators' rights platform.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

OP here. I am totally fine with this.

OP - what exactly are you "fine" with? Because I am not fine with this "pressure" at all. This pressure started when my kids were in HS....the whole BLM movement....and pressure to make their Instagram profile all black...and that if they didn't it meant they were racist.

Everyone has the right to display a pride flag on their private property.
Everyone has the same equal right to not display a pride flag on their private property. That doesn't mean they don't respect LGBTQ+.

When did it become wrong to make this statement: I don't believe in the LGBTQ+ lifestyle but to each their own -- you do you. I still respect LGBTQ+ and believe they deserve equal rights.

This "pressure" is everywhere, and it's wrong. The "pressure" to believe in and fully embrace/accept the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. The "popularization/pressure" and "trend" to join the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. Wrong.

I am fine with teacher not hanging up posters. They can go in the hallway. Not needed in the classroom.

But that wasn't the point of the teacher's post. The point was about the people pressuring them to do so and even worse...then insinuating that they were MAGA or R for not giving in.

Teacher here and yes. That’s it. I had another teacher directly say to my face that they know I have issues with Pride month and don’t support it. It’s not fair at all, just because I don’t want this in my classroom. This was the last week of school this year. It is hostile environment but it’s against anyone who doesn’t go along with all of this.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

OP here. I am totally fine with this.

OP - what exactly are you "fine" with? Because I am not fine with this "pressure" at all. This pressure started when my kids were in HS....the whole BLM movement....and pressure to make their Instagram profile all black...and that if they didn't it meant they were racist.

Everyone has the right to display a pride flag on their private property.
Everyone has the same equal right to not display a pride flag on their private property. That doesn't mean they don't respect LGBTQ+.

When did it become wrong to make this statement: I don't believe in the LGBTQ+ lifestyle but to each their own -- you do you. I still respect LGBTQ+ and believe they deserve equal rights.

This "pressure" is everywhere, and it's wrong. The "pressure" to believe in and fully embrace/accept the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. The "popularization/pressure" and "trend" to join the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. Wrong.

My white boys went to Wilson (and then JR) and have never once put a black profile or did rainbows, and not once have they been accused of being racist or anti-gay or felt a modicum of pressure to do so. In fact, I’m IG friends with their best friends (including 2 who went to GDS) and I haven’t seen any of that from any of them. I mostly see poorly lit photos of them hanging out or acting totally stupid. Not a single one has questioned their sexuality or had anxiety about this. They’re still goofy white guys whose circle includes boys or all colors and religion and sexuality, as well as girls.

There’s no indoctrination or pressure. It’s made up because you have anxiety. We’ve told our kids that they have privilege and to use it for good. Do they like everything or agree with everyone? No. But if it’s an article in the school paper or a critique of something in a discussion, like most normal, well-adjusted people, they let it roll off their backs. The world doesn’t revolve around them.

The pressure is real. At work, I was asked to submit names of white, male subordinates who would "benefit" from a discussion-based program in which minorities describe things like microaggressions and feeling out of step with society. When I asked for more details, I was told to sign up conservative white men who "need it the most" and that this training would make them feel uncomfortable, which, I was told, would be good for them. And they wouldn't need to talk, I was told, they just needed to sit their white a$$es down and listen.

What? What business does an employer have coercing its employees to sit through a struggle session about race and gender? Ma'am, this is a Wendy's. We are not their spiritual leaders, just their employers. And under what other circumstance would it be okay to make an employee feel uncomfortable?

This is the kind of stuff that lost me. And when I got the call asking me why, after years of being "such a good ally," I was backing away, I laid this all out. Respect is a two way street. When you stop respecting people with differences, it *heightens* tension, not the opposite. The trans activists and their supporters will not win by tearing everyone else down and disrespecting their beliefs and concerns.

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Anonymous wrote:Outside of the far right Christian evangelicals, I think most Republicans are just fine with LGBQ folks. Gay marriage is an issue that has been resolved for some time. There are many gay Republicans and always have been. The issue is with the T. They think the normalization of gender fluidity among adolescents has been harmful for children. And they believe trans women competing against biological girls and women is inherently unfair. So too allowing biological males inside women's prisons, domestic abuse shelters, and so on. I'm not sure why Democrats are digging in on this issue. The vast majority of Americans are with Republicans on the issue of trans people in women's spaces.

Again - why is this even an issue to begin with? There’s a reason teachers don’t read books about periods, circulations, breast enhancements, anal cancer to 2nd graders. It just seems like a total lack of common sense.

Frankly I don’t care much about the T when it comes to all the issues you mention. No trans woman is going to rape a woman. Or rather the chances of that are far less than rape in general. People are making a big deal of something so minor. I am a Dem and I have two daughters. I am not worried at all about a trans woman competing against them. It is so so unlikely.

The only place a trans woman should be prohibited from competing is in the Olympics. It is unfair for a person who is biologically male to compete in female olympic athletic competitions. But college sports? Why not? There are so few gifted elite trans athletes that it is a non-issue, except to the Republicans who use it as a steel bat to hammer at the Democrats.

Why does anyone care? If you aren't trans, why does this matter to you? Does a trans person affect your life in any way?

If your kid is trans, so what? If they are happy, that's all that matters. It doesn't affect me, nor does it affect you.

NP. You are far out of step with the vast majority of Americans on this, and have the position that is unethical. It is not a winning issue for Democrats because your position here is morally and ethically wrong.

I very much disagree with this poster too and so do many of us with kids that play competitive sports. I have a son and daughter. They are not the same. My daughter trains hard and her sport is extremely competitive as it is. No, it is not fair for her to compete with trans girls for those limited spots.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

OP here. I am totally fine with this.

OP - what exactly are you "fine" with? Because I am not fine with this "pressure" at all. This pressure started when my kids were in HS....the whole BLM movement....and pressure to make their Instagram profile all black...and that if they didn't it meant they were racist.

Everyone has the right to display a pride flag on their private property.
Everyone has the same equal right to not display a pride flag on their private property. That doesn't mean they don't respect LGBTQ+.

When did it become wrong to make this statement: I don't believe in the LGBTQ+ lifestyle but to each their own -- you do you. I still respect LGBTQ+ and believe they deserve equal rights.

This "pressure" is everywhere, and it's wrong. The "pressure" to believe in and fully embrace/accept the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. The "popularization/pressure" and "trend" to join the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. Wrong.

My white boys went to Wilson (and then JR) and have never once put a black profile or did rainbows, and not once have they been accused of being racist or anti-gay or felt a modicum of pressure to do so. In fact, I’m IG friends with their best friends (including 2 who went to GDS) and I haven’t seen any of that from any of them. I mostly see poorly lit photos of them hanging out or acting totally stupid. Not a single one has questioned their sexuality or had anxiety about this. They’re still goofy white guys whose circle includes boys or all colors and religion and sexuality, as well as girls.

There’s no indoctrination or pressure. It’s made up because you have anxiety. We’ve told our kids that they have privilege and to use it for good. Do they like everything or agree with everyone? No. But if it’s an article in the school paper or a critique of something in a discussion, like most normal, well-adjusted people, they let it roll off their backs. The world doesn’t revolve around them.

The "pressure" is not made up. My kids witnessed it. Had nothing to do with anxiety. Just because your kids didn't witness any pressure doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Do you accuse the teacher who posted about the pressure of making it up too?

Yup, I do.
There are a lot of anxious people around these parts.
A lot of people who feel like they’re owed something.
A lot of people who are intrenched in their identity, see Think Again by Adam Grant.
A lot of people who have scarcity-mindsets, see Carol Dweck.
A lot of people don’t have emotional fortitude and/or believe compassion is a weakness.

People can ask for a poster or anything. You can say no. If you feel like they think you’re racist of anti-LGBTQ, that’s on you. (See tons of work in CBT.) Personally, I think you probably are and rather than grow or learn, you double down because you’re afraid of admitting it.

I applaud your devotion to self help books but I am still not voting for what you're selling.

Because you’re not progressive. If you truly believed in what you’re buying, what difference does it make what people think of you? People think whatever they want about us. People can be wrong about me. PP’s are upset because there’s kernel of truth in there they’re avoiding.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

OP here. I am totally fine with this.

OP - what exactly are you "fine" with? Because I am not fine with this "pressure" at all. This pressure started when my kids were in HS....the whole BLM movement....and pressure to make their Instagram profile all black...and that if they didn't it meant they were racist.

Everyone has the right to display a pride flag on their private property.
Everyone has the same equal right to not display a pride flag on their private property. That doesn't mean they don't respect LGBTQ+.

When did it become wrong to make this statement: I don't believe in the LGBTQ+ lifestyle but to each their own -- you do you. I still respect LGBTQ+ and believe they deserve equal rights.

This "pressure" is everywhere, and it's wrong. The "pressure" to believe in and fully embrace/accept the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. The "popularization/pressure" and "trend" to join the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. Wrong.

My white boys went to Wilson (and then JR) and have never once put a black profile or did rainbows, and not once have they been accused of being racist or anti-gay or felt a modicum of pressure to do so. In fact, I’m IG friends with their best friends (including 2 who went to GDS) and I haven’t seen any of that from any of them. I mostly see poorly lit photos of them hanging out or acting totally stupid. Not a single one has questioned their sexuality or had anxiety about this. They’re still goofy white guys whose circle includes boys or all colors and religion and sexuality, as well as girls.

There’s no indoctrination or pressure. It’s made up because you have anxiety. We’ve told our kids that they have privilege and to use it for good. Do they like everything or agree with everyone? No. But if it’s an article in the school paper or a critique of something in a discussion, like most normal, well-adjusted people, they let it roll off their backs. The world doesn’t revolve around them.

The pressure is real. At work, I was asked to submit names of white, male subordinates who would "benefit" from a discussion-based program in which minorities describe things like microaggressions and feeling out of step with society. When I asked for more details, I was told to sign up conservative white men who "need it the most" and that this training would make them feel uncomfortable, which, I was told, would be good for them. And they wouldn't need to talk, I was told, they just needed to sit their white a$$es down and listen.

What? What business does an employer have coercing its employees to sit through a struggle session about race and gender? Ma'am, this is a Wendy's. We are not their spiritual leaders, just their employers. And under what other circumstance would it be okay to make an employee feel uncomfortable?

This is the kind of stuff that lost me. And when I got the call asking me why, after years of being "such a good ally," I was backing away, I laid this all out. Respect is a two way street. When you stop respecting people with differences, it *heightens* tension, not the opposite. The trans activists and their supporters will not win by tearing everyone else down and disrespecting their beliefs and concerns.

We are talking about schools, not workplaces. You can leave a toxic one.

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OK so I'm totally good with LGBTQ. But...

Man it's like every other month is some sort if LGBTQ day. It's the month, day, annual cremation, whatever. Even my kids are like, didn't we just have an annual parade and now it's like the month celebration already??!

So for me it's that it's so loud. I get it - be you. Enjoy your life but it's carried to an extreme if we are the most awesome ever to be LGBTQ! And it's kinda annoying. We don't celebrate heterosexual month or anything? Of course it's fine to share and do a parade because it is so fun and conceptually celebrating anything is beautiful but seriously, it's become too crazy.

My kids MS has a whole clique of LGBTQ 12-13 yr olds and I don't think 1/2 of them even know if they really are as they aren't sexually actives yet. It may seem cool or they may feel different but no way they know for sure. It's just too much. This is what I think is the reason for so much push back from the other side which I don't think is right or se but also gets louder logically.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

OP here. I am totally fine with this.

OP - what exactly are you "fine" with? Because I am not fine with this "pressure" at all. This pressure started when my kids were in HS....the whole BLM movement....and pressure to make their Instagram profile all black...and that if they didn't it meant they were racist.

Everyone has the right to display a pride flag on their private property.
Everyone has the same equal right to not display a pride flag on their private property. That doesn't mean they don't respect LGBTQ+.

When did it become wrong to make this statement: I don't believe in the LGBTQ+ lifestyle but to each their own -- you do you. I still respect LGBTQ+ and believe they deserve equal rights.

This "pressure" is everywhere, and it's wrong. The "pressure" to believe in and fully embrace/accept the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. The "popularization/pressure" and "trend" to join the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. Wrong.

My white boys went to Wilson (and then JR) and have never once put a black profile or did rainbows, and not once have they been accused of being racist or anti-gay or felt a modicum of pressure to do so. In fact, I’m IG friends with their best friends (including 2 who went to GDS) and I haven’t seen any of that from any of them. I mostly see poorly lit photos of them hanging out or acting totally stupid. Not a single one has questioned their sexuality or had anxiety about this. They’re still goofy white guys whose circle includes boys or all colors and religion and sexuality, as well as girls.

There’s no indoctrination or pressure. It’s made up because you have anxiety. We’ve told our kids that they have privilege and to use it for good. Do they like everything or agree with everyone? No. But if it’s an article in the school paper or a critique of something in a discussion, like most normal, well-adjusted people, they let it roll off their backs. The world doesn’t revolve around them.

Your experience of not feeling pressure isn’t everyone’s and likely stems from the fact that your moral and political views align with the administration’s (your teaching on “privilege” is an indicator). Just as a Jewish student doesn’t need to accept a teacher leading a Christian prayer in class, so does a Muslim parent not need to tolerate a teaching in a Maryland classroom on gender as a person’s “guess.”

Um, sorry. I don’t tell my kids what to think. Me telling them about privilege is what I think, whether they heed that or not is on them. Neither are fully aligned with me politically. Yet, still no pressure. You totally glossed over the part where they don’t freak out if there’s an article in the paper about something they don’t agree with. We’re also not talking about prayer, and I applaud you standing up for Muslim’s rights, but I hope you are also outraged at racism against them, deportations against them.

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Anonymous wrote:I want to tell parents they can’t opt out because it is a nightmare to manage this.

I want people to use common sense that books about gender dysphoria don’t need to be a part of the 2nd grade curriculum.

I don’t want this to be a slippery slope situation. What if I don’t want my kid to be read books about Muslims? (Again I really don’t care but this has big implications.)

We have a close family friend that is trans and my 2nd grader understands that she identifies as a woman, but was once a man. This has not confused my child. I think children are capable of understanding a diversity of human experiences... Far more capable than many adults.

Children’s brains are not fully formed, hence they are susceptible to indoctrination, brainwashing, and all kinds of ridiculous manipulation. It’s why they are targeted by activists for their nonsense, most adults know better.

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Anonymous wrote:Outside of the far right Christian evangelicals, I think most Republicans are just fine with LGBQ folks. Gay marriage is an issue that has been resolved for some time. There are many gay Republicans and always have been. The issue is with the T. They think the normalization of gender fluidity among adolescents has been harmful for children. And they believe trans women competing against biological girls and women is inherently unfair. So too allowing biological males inside women's prisons, domestic abuse shelters, and so on. I'm not sure why Democrats are digging in on this issue. The vast majority of Americans are with Republicans on the issue of trans people in women's spaces.

Again - why is this even an issue to begin with? There’s a reason teachers don’t read books about periods, circulations, breast enhancements, anal cancer to 2nd graders. It just seems like a total lack of common sense.

Frankly I don’t care much about the T when it comes to all the issues you mention. No trans woman is going to rape a woman. Or rather the chances of that are far less than rape in general. People are making a big deal of something so minor. I am a Dem and I have two daughters. I am not worried at all about a trans woman competing against them. It is so so unlikely.

The only place a trans woman should be prohibited from competing is in the Olympics. It is unfair for a person who is biologically male to compete in female olympic athletic competitions. But college sports? Why not? There are so few gifted elite trans athletes that it is a non-issue, except to the Republicans who use it as a steel bat to hammer at the Democrats.

Why does anyone care? If you aren't trans, why does this matter to you? Does a trans person affect your life in any way?

If your kid is trans, so what? If they are happy, that's all that matters. It doesn't affect me, nor does it affect you.

NP. You are far out of step with the vast majority of Americans on this, and have the position that is unethical. It is not a winning issue for Democrats because your position here is morally and ethically wrong.

I very much disagree with this poster too and so do many of us with kids that play competitive sports. I have a son and daughter. They are not the same. My daughter trains hard and her sport is extremely competitive as it is. No, it is not fair for her to compete with trans girls for those limited spots.

At least 90% of the country disagrees with that poster. Why? Because that poster’s position is immoral and ethically wrong, not to mention grotesquely misogynist.

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Anonymous wrote:I want to tell parents they can’t opt out because it is a nightmare to manage this.

I want people to use common sense that books about gender dysphoria don’t need to be a part of the 2nd grade curriculum.

I don’t want this to be a slippery slope situation. What if I don’t want my kid to be read books about Muslims? (Again I really don’t care but this has big implications.)

We have a close family friend that is trans and my 2nd grader understands that she identifies as a woman, but was once a man. This has not confused my child. I think children are capable of understanding a diversity of human experiences... Far more capable than many adults.

Children’s brains are not fully formed, hence they are susceptible to indoctrination, brainwashing, and all kinds of ridiculous manipulation. It’s why they are targeted by activists for their nonsense, most adults know better.

Of they are susceptible to indoctrination, brainwashing, and all kinds of ridiculous manipulation, the first thing to be removed from every school is the reciting of the pledge.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP here - agree. I don’t care if a word problem says Dan and Matt have $50 to spend on gas to get them to Philly for their nephews bar mitzvah. It costs $6 a gallon. How much will it cost to get there?


That doesn’t require a sexuality discussion. It’s just what you might see in society. It’s a fact.

Math teacher here. I posted on the page before this. I don’t care about that either and am fine with your example. Where I have an issue is when people come into my room with pressure to hang up posters for pride month (when it’s not even June because we don’t have school in June) and to support other causes and then insinuate I’m MAGA or R because I don’t allow any hanging up of anything other than my own posters in my room. Like my content posters. This is what is happening in schools today.

OP here. I am totally fine with this.

OP - what exactly are you "fine" with? Because I am not fine with this "pressure" at all. This pressure started when my kids were in HS....the whole BLM movement....and pressure to make their Instagram profile all black...and that if they didn't it meant they were racist.

Everyone has the right to display a pride flag on their private property.
Everyone has the same equal right to not display a pride flag on their private property. That doesn't mean they don't respect LGBTQ+.

When did it become wrong to make this statement: I don't believe in the LGBTQ+ lifestyle but to each their own -- you do you. I still respect LGBTQ+ and believe they deserve equal rights.

This "pressure" is everywhere, and it's wrong. The "pressure" to believe in and fully embrace/accept the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. The "popularization/pressure" and "trend" to join the LGBTQ+ lifestyle is real. Wrong.

My white boys went to Wilson (and then JR) and have never once put a black profile or did rainbows, and not once have they been accused of being racist or anti-gay or felt a modicum of pressure to do so. In fact, I’m IG friends with their best friends (including 2 who went to GDS) and I haven’t seen any of that from any of them. I mostly see poorly lit photos of them hanging out or acting totally stupid. Not a single one has questioned their sexuality or had anxiety about this. They’re still goofy white guys whose circle includes boys or all colors and religion and sexuality, as well as girls.

There’s no indoctrination or pressure. It’s made up because you have anxiety. We’ve told our kids that they have privilege and to use it for good. Do they like everything or agree with everyone? No. But if it’s an article in the school paper or a critique of something in a discussion, like most normal, well-adjusted people, they let it roll off their backs. The world doesn’t revolve around them.

Your experience of not feeling pressure isn’t everyone’s and likely stems from the fact that your moral and political views align with the administration’s (your teaching on “privilege” is an indicator). Just as a Jewish student doesn’t need to accept a teacher leading a Christian prayer in class, so does a Muslim parent not need to tolerate a teaching in a Maryland classroom on gender as a person’s “guess.”

Um, sorry. I don’t tell my kids what to think. Me telling them about privilege is what I think, whether they heed that or not is on them. Neither are fully aligned with me politically. Yet, still no pressure. You totally glossed over the part where they don’t freak out if there’s an article in the paper about something they don’t agree with. We’re also not talking about prayer, and I applaud you standing up for Muslim’s rights, but I hope you are also outraged at racism against them, deportations against them.

I fully support deportations for people who are not here legally.

You don’t feel the pressure because you have the same viewpoint. That doesn’t make the experience of others who do disagree invalid. I’m sure Christians don’t feel pressure at a conservative red state school if a teacher leads a prayer, but the single Jewish student in attendance would report otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to tell parents they can’t opt out because it is a nightmare to manage this.

I want people to use common sense that books about gender dysphoria don’t need to be a part of the 2nd grade curriculum.

I don’t want this to be a slippery slope situation. What if I don’t want my kid to be read books about Muslims? (Again I really don’t care but this has big implications.)

We have a close family friend that is trans and my 2nd grader understands that she identifies as a woman, but was once a man. This has not confused my child. I think children are capable of understanding a diversity of human experiences... Far more capable than many adults.

Children’s brains are not fully formed, hence they are susceptible to indoctrination, brainwashing, and all kinds of ridiculous manipulation. It’s why they are targeted by activists for their nonsense, most adults know better.

Of they are susceptible to indoctrination, brainwashing, and all kinds of ridiculous manipulation, the first thing to be removed from every school is the reciting of the pledge.

Students aren’t required to pledge allegiance to the flag. In Maryland, parents were not allowed to opt the children out of controversial sex and gender discussions. Get it now?