2024 AP Exams - Results

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Anonymous wrote:My DD with LD got two 2s and was very sad, as she though she did pretty well. She got As in both classes, though (Lang and World). It’ll be obvious when she doesn’t submit the grades, but oh well. Onward and upward.

Oh, and I realize grade inflation is very real - my DD’s As we’re rounded up from A and a B quarter grades - but she has an IEP and busted her a$$.

Test Optional and don’t submit AP scores. If you’re full pay she will have opportunities at good schools.

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DD got a 5 in AP Music Theory. She absolutely loved the class too,

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Anonymous wrote:DD got a 5 in AP Music Theory. She absolutely loved the class too,

Congratulations to your DD. That's a challenging AP too.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD with LD got two 2s and was very sad, as she though she did pretty well. She got As in both classes, though (Lang and World). It’ll be obvious when she doesn’t submit the grades, but oh well. Onward and upward.

Sorry your DD is disappointed about the 2s. The AP exams present the questions in a way that I personally think is difficult for kids with certain LDs to master. My DD has dyslexia and was getting Bs and Cs on practice tests on material that, if you asked her about it verbally, she knew inside and out.

I asked her teacher if I could see DD’s answers to one of her practice tests. She had very high scores on the essays but suboptimal scores on the multiple choice. Turns out the phrasing of the questions is challenging for someone with dyslexia. If you were to ask her to name key crops in the colonies she’s have no problem, or to select some from a list. But if the question is phrased as what crop was not a key crop in the colonies she might miss the “not.” And forget about those questions with answers like “I, III and V;” “II, III and IV;” “I, III and IV; or “I, III and V.” Even with time and a half that’s tricky for her to untangle, so she was just guessing. She worked on some strategies for anticipating and addressing these types of questions and her score did end up improving.

She’s done very well in college particularly since her major is heavy on research papers.

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Anonymous wrote:Freshman got a 5 in AP Gov. Great for her first AP exam!

Our N.VA school district allows you to take AP GOV SENIOR year. Granted I know anyone can self study for an AP test, it is just a bit insane how different things are across the board for when certain classes are taught.

My freshman also got a 5. At their school, all 9th graders take AP Gov. iIt is crazy how different schools do things.

It just goes to show how APs are not truly college-level classes.

Why does it show that? My 9th grader took it and got a 2. Huge history buff, but clearly not ready for that level. By junior year was getting 4s and 5s.

I don't care who got what on the AP exams. I'd rather have the GPA number as I think that is more reflective of whether the material was understood. AP exams are a specific animal and the kids are taught how to take the tests, in addition to the material. So they are not as reflective of material, imo.

You don't have to agree. And that's fine.

Bad test taker syndrome …

No. Just an average AP exam taker. Excellent test taker in general.

I wonder how that poster thinks the high GPA people got high GPAs.

FFS, have you spent any time around a high school or high school students in the past 30 years? Apple polishing on steroids has taken over - begging and pleading by students for extra credit assignments, rampant entitlement mindset of the students who advocate for themselves the most ferociously, established makeover assignments, helicopter parent intervention and intimidation, pressure on schools to demonstrate success in meeting educational benchmarks, and on and on and on.

If you're seriously prepared to argue that grade inflation HAS NOT rendered much of what we get from a transcript these days as mostly unreliable, I'm definitely prepared to take you to the woodshed on this topic.

As I've said for the past 30 years, I'll take Applicant A (3.5 unweighted with a 1600 and an unbroken string of 5 scores on 10+ AP tests) ALL DAY LONG over Applicant B (4.0 unweighted with a 1450 and a mix of 3s, 4s, and 5s on 6 - 8 AP tests). For the same reason, I'll always take an applicant with an 88 average in an AP class and a 5 on the AP test over another an applicant with a 98 in the class but a 3 on the AP test or an applicant with a 94 in the class but a 4 on the AP test. All day. Every day.

Grades are directional at this point, nothing more.

Even if the two applicants go to the same school and had the same teacher??

DP Ever hear about bored kids who stop submitting assignments due to lack of engagement, but learn the material inside and out? I have.

Those kids get 88s and 5s. If the purpose of education is learning and mastering subject matter …

No, the purpose of education is to learn scholarship skills. Nearly no one cares about the details of life in Colonial USA.

The AP exam doesn't have a section on it for a 10 page research paper.

I could not love this more.

I could not hate this more.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS sucks. My kid got a 1 in apush and calc bc. Always got 4s when we had tutors. Couldn’t find a decent tutor this semester and the teachers were terrible as evidenced in her score.

At our MCPS hs, per most recent school profile, only 1 of 60 kids got a 1 on the BC calc exam. 14 out of over 250 did on APUSH. Suggest looking at your hs profile to see whether it’s your school or your kid. It’s not MCPS broadly.

I'm not on board with PP dissing MCPS for their child's 1, but I think the 2024 scores are going to be pretty different because it's the first year that MCPS paid for every kid to talk the exam. I think the 2024 scores will show a lot more lower scores, because there's not incentive NOT to take the test, since it is free and you can just decline to report the score.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS sucks. My kid got a 1 in apush and calc bc. Always got 4s when we had tutors. Couldn’t find a decent tutor this semester and the teachers were terrible as evidenced in her score.

At our MCPS hs, per most recent school profile, only 1 of 60 kids got a 1 on the BC calc exam. 14 out of over 250 did on APUSH. Suggest looking at your hs profile to see whether it’s your school or your kid. It’s not MCPS broadly.

I'm not on board with PP dissing MCPS for their child's 1, but I think the 2024 scores are going to be pretty different because it's the first year that MCPS paid for every kid to talk the exam. I think the 2024 scores will show a lot more lower scores, because there's not incentive NOT to take the test, since it is free and you can just decline to report the score.

this sounds correct but please remember this is the COLLEGE forum, not the MCPS schools forum which is elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:my kiddo took the APUSH exam but not the class which isn't offered at her school...and got a 5! seems nuts. but she wants to major in history

that is something else - so much work for that AP my rising 12 grader took it in school in 10th and got a 5 for the same reason - prospective History major but it was a TON of work

Not sure this actually helps that much with admissions since they look more at the course load. FWIW, a kid at my son's school did this for a few AP classes and did not seem to get admissions boost.

It helps in some places very well.

Does it? My DC's private high school, which has abolished AP classes, claims it doesn't.

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DD1 (10th): 5 APUSH, 5 Comp Sci
DD2 (9th): 5 AP Gov

They were both so happy!!

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Anonymous wrote:My DD with LD got two 2s and was very sad, as she though she did pretty well. She got As in both classes, though (Lang and World). It’ll be obvious when she doesn’t submit the grades, but oh well. Onward and upward.

Sorry your DD is disappointed about the 2s. The AP exams present the questions in a way that I personally think is difficult for kids with certain LDs to master. My DD has dyslexia and was getting Bs and Cs on practice tests on material that, if you asked her about it verbally, she knew inside and out.

I asked her teacher if I could see DD’s answers to one of her practice tests. She had very high scores on the essays but suboptimal scores on the multiple choice. Turns out the phrasing of the questions is challenging for someone with dyslexia. If you were to ask her to name key crops in the colonies she’s have no problem, or to select some from a list. But if the question is phrased as what crop was not a key crop in the colonies she might miss the “not.” And forget about those questions with answers like “I, III and V;” “II, III and IV;” “I, III and IV; or “I, III and V.” Even with time and a half that’s tricky for her to untangle, so she was just guessing. She worked on some strategies for anticipating and addressing these types of questions and her score did end up improving.

She’s done very well in college particularly since her major is heavy on research papers.

Thank you, PP; I really appreciate your feedback, it’s helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS sucks. My kid got a 1 in apush and calc bc. Always got 4s when we had tutors. Couldn’t find a decent tutor this semester and the teachers were terrible as evidenced in her score.

My son got a 4 in APUSH at Northwood as a freshman. He reached out to his other friends in the class and two of them got 4s and 3 of them got 3s. It depends on the teacher - it’s not a whole MCPS thing. Also you can ask the pass rate at the school and see how the population held up as a whole.

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Anonymous wrote:my kiddo took the APUSH exam but not the class which isn't offered at her school...and got a 5! seems nuts. but she wants to major in history

that is something else - so much work for that AP my rising 12 grader took it in school in 10th and got a 5 for the same reason - prospective History major but it was a TON of work

Not sure this actually helps that much with admissions since they look more at the course load. FWIW, a kid at my son's school did this for a few AP classes and did not seem to get admissions boost.

It helps in some places very well.

Does it? My DC's private high school, which has abolished AP classes, claims it doesn't.

Then your private high school is likely somewhat parochial.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS sucks. My kid got a 1 in apush and calc bc. Always got 4s when we had tutors. Couldn’t find a decent tutor this semester and the teachers were terrible as evidenced in her score.

My son got a 4 in APUSH at Northwood as a freshman. He reached out to his other friends in the class and two of them got 4s and 3 of them got 3s. It depends on the teacher - it’s not a whole MCPS thing. Also you can ask the pass rate at the school and see how the population held up as a whole.

He should be proud of a 4. 9th grade is really young to be taking APUSH! My DC’s school doesn’t even allow AP classes until 11th grade (and you have to apply in with many being rejected).

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS sucks. My kid got a 1 in apush and calc bc. Always got 4s when we had tutors. Couldn’t find a decent tutor this semester and the teachers were terrible as evidenced in her score.

My son got a 4 in APUSH at Northwood as a freshman. He reached out to his other friends in the class and two of them got 4s and 3 of them got 3s. It depends on the teacher - it’s not a whole MCPS thing. Also you can ask the pass rate at the school and see how the population held up as a whole.

He should be proud of a 4. 9th grade is really young to be taking APUSH! My DC’s school doesn’t even allow AP classes until 11th grade (and you have to apply in with many being rejected).

Yes 9th is very young. FCPS 11th grade takes APUSH. The difference is school districts/states seems like it’s a nightmare for AO’s

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Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Where is your DC going to college?

Boom! Clean sweep, congrats!

Pretty one dimensional.

Mine had 10 5s—but in addition to calc, sciences —had both English lit & lang, and 4 history APs. Headed to an Ivy- but got into Hopkins, Duke and Georgetown too.

Rising junior - 5 AP Euro history. They take bulk junior and senior year at his JS.

no languages??

One kid- yes- Spanish. The other kid started a different language in 9th and only did up to Honors IV.