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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Freshman got a 5 in AP Gov.  Great for her first AP exam!  [/quote]Our N.VA school district allows you to take AP GOV SENIOR year. Granted I know anyone can self study for an AP test, it is just a bit insane how different things are across the board for when certain classes are taught.[/quote]

My freshman also got a 5.  At their school, all 9th graders take AP Gov.  iIt is crazy how different schools do things.[/quote]

It just goes to show how APs are not truly college-level classes.[/quote]

Why does it show that? My 9th grader took it and got a 2. Huge history buff, but clearly not ready for that level. By junior year was getting 4s and 5s.[/quote]

I don't care who got what on the AP exams. I'd rather have the GPA number as I think that is more reflective of whether the material was understood. AP exams are a specific animal and the kids are taught how to take the tests, in addition to the material. So they are not as reflective of material, imo.

You don't have to agree. And that's fine. [/quote]

Bad test taker syndrome …[/quote]

No. Just an average AP exam taker. Excellent test taker in general. [/quote]

I wonder how that poster thinks the high GPA people got high GPAs.[/quote]

FFS, have you spent any time around a high school or high school students in the past 30 years? Apple polishing on steroids has taken over - begging and pleading by students for extra credit assignments, rampant entitlement mindset of the students who advocate for themselves the most ferociously, established makeover assignments, helicopter parent intervention and intimidation, pressure on schools to demonstrate success in meeting educational benchmarks, and on and on and on.

If you're seriously prepared to argue that grade inflation HAS NOT rendered much of what we get from a transcript these days as mostly unreliable, I'm definitely prepared to take you to the woodshed on this topic.

As I've said for the past 30 years, I'll take Applicant A (3.5 unweighted with a 1600 and an unbroken string of 5 scores on 10+ AP tests) ALL DAY LONG over Applicant B (4.0 unweighted with a 1450 and a mix of 3s, 4s, and 5s on 6 - 8 AP tests). For the same reason, I'll always take an applicant with an 88 average in an AP class and a 5 on the AP test over another an applicant with a 98 in the class but a 3 on the AP test or an applicant with a 94 in the class but a 4 on the AP test. All day. Every day.

Grades are directional at this point, nothing more.[/quote]

Even if the two applicants go to the same school and had the same teacher??[/quote]

DP Ever hear about bored kids who stop submitting assignments due to lack of engagement, but learn the material inside and out? I have.

Those kids get 88s and 5s. If the purpose of education is learning and mastering subject matter …[/quote]

[b]No, the purpose of education is to learn scholarship skills. Nearly no one cares about the details of life in Colonial USA[/b].

The AP exam doesn't have a section on it for a 10 page research paper. [/quote]

I could not love this more. [/quote]

I could not hate this more.[/quote]

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