2024 AP Exams - Results

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Anonymous wrote:Freshman got a 5 in AP Gov. Great for her first AP exam!

Our N.VA school district allows you to take AP GOV SENIOR year. Granted I know anyone can self study for an AP test, it is just a bit insane how different things are across the board for when certain classes are taught.

My freshman also got a 5. At their school, all 9th graders take AP Gov. iIt is crazy how different schools do things.

It just goes to show how APs are not truly college-level classes.

Why does it show that? My 9th grader took it and got a 2. Huge history buff, but clearly not ready for that level. By junior year was getting 4s and 5s.

I don't care who got what on the AP exams. I'd rather have the GPA number as I think that is more reflective of whether the material was understood. AP exams are a specific animal and the kids are taught how to take the tests, in addition to the material. So they are not as reflective of material, imo.

You don't have to agree. And that's fine.

Yes, but when a 4.0 is common (I think 20-30 percent of my child's class has a 4.0), AP scores add a substantial amount of information.

I agree. If an AP exam only yields a score of 5 among less than 10% of the test takers, those are the ones to watch.

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Anonymous wrote:Freshman got a 5 in AP Gov. Great for her first AP exam!

Our N.VA school district allows you to take AP GOV SENIOR year. Granted I know anyone can self study for an AP test, it is just a bit insane how different things are across the board for when certain classes are taught.

My freshman also got a 5. At their school, all 9th graders take AP Gov. iIt is crazy how different schools do things.

It just goes to show how APs are not truly college-level classes.

Why does it show that? My 9th grader took it and got a 2. Huge history buff, but clearly not ready for that level. By junior year was getting 4s and 5s.

I don't care who got what on the AP exams. I'd rather have the GPA number as I think that is more reflective of whether the material was understood. AP exams are a specific animal and the kids are taught how to take the tests, in addition to the material. So they are not as reflective of material, imo.

You don't have to agree. And that's fine.

Bad test taker syndrome …

No. Just an average AP exam taker. Excellent test taker in general.

I wonder how that poster thinks the high GPA people got high GPAs.

FFS, have you spent any time around a high school or high school students in the past 30 years? Apple polishing on steroids has taken over - begging and pleading by students for extra credit assignments, rampant entitlement mindset of the students who advocate for themselves the most ferociously, established makeover assignments, helicopter parent intervention and intimidation, pressure on schools to demonstrate success in meeting educational benchmarks, and on and on and on.

If you're seriously prepared to argue that grade inflation HAS NOT rendered much of what we get from a transcript these days as mostly unreliable, I'm definitely prepared to take you to the woodshed on this topic.

As I've said for the past 30 years, I'll take Applicant A (3.5 unweighted with a 1600 and an unbroken string of 5 scores on 10+ AP tests) ALL DAY LONG over Applicant B (4.0 unweighted with a 1450 and a mix of 3s, 4s, and 5s on 6 - 8 AP tests). For the same reason, I'll always take an applicant with an 88 average in an AP class and a 5 on the AP test over another an applicant with a 98 in the class but a 3 on the AP test or an applicant with a 94 in the class but a 4 on the AP test. All day. Every day.

Grades are directional at this point, nothing more.

Even if the two applicants go to the same school and had the same teacher??

DP Ever hear about bored kids who stop submitting assignments due to lack of engagement, but learn the material inside and out? I have.

Those kids get 88s and 5s. If the purpose of education is learning and mastering subject matter …

No, the purpose of education is to learn scholarship skills. Nearly no one cares about the details of life in Colonial USA.

The AP exam doesn't have a section on it for a 10 page research paper.

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Anonymous wrote:For all the jerks claiming that As in the class but 4s on the AP are because of grade inflation, there is also the issue that a lot of times teachers don't make it through all the material. NOT blaming the teacher--I actually prefer it when the teacher "goes deep" in the material rather than teaching to the test. And I also concede that grade inflation is rampant. But there are a lot of reasons why a kid might not get a 5 on the test that have nothing to do with grade inflation....also, in the past two years my DC had two AP teachers who were out for large parts of the spring due to illness/maternity leave.

I'm not into dissing a score of 4.... but isn't it always the case that a student needs to keep on top of what will be on the test vs what teacher covers and be studying to fill the gap if they are striving for a 5?

No. Mine did their classwork and homework and studied for school tests, and then took the AP tests, with a little cram refresher the day before each test.

But they had textbooks so it was obvious that they needed to read the whole book, not wonder what material was left out from an ord assortment of habdouts

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Anonymous wrote:my kiddo took the APUSH exam but not the class which isn't offered at her school...and got a 5! seems nuts. but she wants to major in history

The class isn't magic. if you are smart and you have study skills developed and you study the material you will learn. If you are taking many APs classes, the study skills and DBQ skills and essay writing skills from one class transfer to the tests for the other courses.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS sucks. My kid got a 1 in apush and calc bc. Always got 4s when we had tutors. Couldn’t find a decent tutor this semester and the teachers were terrible as evidenced in her score.

At our MCPS hs, per most recent school profile, only 1 of 60 kids got a 1 on the BC calc exam. 14 out of over 250 did on APUSH. Suggest looking at your hs profile to see whether it’s your school or your kid. It’s not MCPS broadly.

Not finding this info... little help?

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https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/data/LAR-charts/AP-Exam-by-Subject.html

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Anonymous wrote:Freshman got a 5 in AP Gov. Great for her first AP exam!

Our N.VA school district allows you to take AP GOV SENIOR year. Granted I know anyone can self study for an AP test, it is just a bit insane how different things are across the board for when certain classes are taught.

My freshman also got a 5. At their school, all 9th graders take AP Gov. iIt is crazy how different schools do things.

It just goes to show how APs are not truly college-level classes.

Why does it show that? My 9th grader took it and got a 2. Huge history buff, but clearly not ready for that level. By junior year was getting 4s and 5s.

I don't care who got what on the AP exams. I'd rather have the GPA number as I think that is more reflective of whether the material was understood. AP exams are a specific animal and the kids are taught how to take the tests, in addition to the material. So they are not as reflective of material, imo.

You don't have to agree. And that's fine.

Bad test taker syndrome …

No. Just an average AP exam taker. Excellent test taker in general.

I wonder how that poster thinks the high GPA people got high GPAs.

FFS, have you spent any time around a high school or high school students in the past 30 years? Apple polishing on steroids has taken over - begging and pleading by students for extra credit assignments, rampant entitlement mindset of the students who advocate for themselves the most ferociously, established makeover assignments, helicopter parent intervention and intimidation, pressure on schools to demonstrate success in meeting educational benchmarks, and on and on and on.

If you're seriously prepared to argue that grade inflation HAS NOT rendered much of what we get from a transcript these days as mostly unreliable, I'm definitely prepared to take you to the woodshed on this topic.

As I've said for the past 30 years, I'll take Applicant A (3.5 unweighted with a 1600 and an unbroken string of 5 scores on 10+ AP tests) ALL DAY LONG over Applicant B (4.0 unweighted with a 1450 and a mix of 3s, 4s, and 5s on 6 - 8 AP tests). For the same reason, I'll always take an applicant with an 88 average in an AP class and a 5 on the AP test over another an applicant with a 98 in the class but a 3 on the AP test or an applicant with a 94 in the class but a 4 on the AP test. All day. Every day.

Grades are directional at this point, nothing more.

Even if the two applicants go to the same school and had the same teacher??

DP Ever hear about bored kids who stop submitting assignments due to lack of engagement, but learn the material inside and out? I have.

Those kids get 88s and 5s. If the purpose of education is learning and mastering subject matter …

No, the purpose of education is to learn scholarship skills. Nearly no one cares about the details of life in Colonial USA.

The AP exam doesn't have a section on it for a 10 page research paper.

I could not love this more.

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Anonymous wrote:Released at 4:30 AM eastern time ...

Who cares?

College admissions is just a lottery anyway. AP scores don't matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Released at 4:30 AM eastern time ...

Who cares?

College admissions is just a lottery anyway. AP scores don't matter.

AP scores DO matter for receiving college credit. Some students get enough credits through AP testing to start college as a sophomore or even higher.

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Anonymous wrote:Freshman got a 5 in AP Gov. Great for her first AP exam!

Our N.VA school district allows you to take AP GOV SENIOR year. Granted I know anyone can self study for an AP test, it is just a bit insane how different things are across the board for when certain classes are taught.

My freshman also got a 5. At their school, all 9th graders take AP Gov. iIt is crazy how different schools do things.

It just goes to show how APs are not truly college-level classes.

Why does it show that? My 9th grader took it and got a 2. Huge history buff, but clearly not ready for that level. By junior year was getting 4s and 5s.

I don't care who got what on the AP exams. I'd rather have the GPA number as I think that is more reflective of whether the material was understood. AP exams are a specific animal and the kids are taught how to take the tests, in addition to the material. So they are not as reflective of material, imo.

You don't have to agree. And that's fine.

Bad test taker syndrome …

No. Just an average AP exam taker. Excellent test taker in general.

I wonder how that poster thinks the high GPA people got high GPAs.

FFS, have you spent any time around a high school or high school students in the past 30 years? Apple polishing on steroids has taken over - begging and pleading by students for extra credit assignments, rampant entitlement mindset of the students who advocate for themselves the most ferociously, established makeover assignments, helicopter parent intervention and intimidation, pressure on schools to demonstrate success in meeting educational benchmarks, and on and on and on.

If you're seriously prepared to argue that grade inflation HAS NOT rendered much of what we get from a transcript these days as mostly unreliable, I'm definitely prepared to take you to the woodshed on this topic.

As I've said for the past 30 years, I'll take Applicant A (3.5 unweighted with a 1600 and an unbroken string of 5 scores on 10+ AP tests) ALL DAY LONG over Applicant B (4.0 unweighted with a 1450 and a mix of 3s, 4s, and 5s on 6 - 8 AP tests). For the same reason, I'll always take an applicant with an 88 average in an AP class and a 5 on the AP test over another an applicant with a 98 in the class but a 3 on the AP test or an applicant with a 94 in the class but a 4 on the AP test. All day. Every day.

Grades are directional at this point, nothing more.

Even if the two applicants go to the same school and had the same teacher??

DP Ever hear about bored kids who stop submitting assignments due to lack of engagement, but learn the material inside and out? I have.

Those kids get 88s and 5s. If the purpose of education is learning and mastering subject matter …

No, the purpose of education is to learn scholarship skills. Nearly no one cares about the details of life in Colonial USA.

The AP exam doesn't have a section on it for a 10 page research paper.

Scholarship skills in a high school setting are ... learning and mastering subject matter. Research paper ... <snort>

Thanks for the distinction without a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Where is your DC going to college?

Boom! Clean sweep, congrats!

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Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Where is your DC going to college?

Boom! Clean sweep, congrats!

Pretty one dimensional.

Mine had 10 5s—but in addition to calc, sciences —had both English lit & lang, and 4 history APs. Headed to an Ivy- but got into Hopkins, Duke and Georgetown too.

Rising junior - 5 AP Euro history. They take bulk junior and senior year at his JS.

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Anonymous wrote:DC going to college in Aug results:
Biology = 5
Physics C Mech = 5
Physics C Elect = 5
Microeconomics = 5
Macroeconomics = 5
Music Theory = 5
Statistics = 5

DC rising junior results
World Hist = 5
Comp Sci A = 5

Great day! And maybe save some college tuition costs!

Where is your DC going to college?

Boom! Clean sweep, congrats!

Pretty one dimensional.

Mine had 10 5s—but in addition to calc, sciences —had both English lit & lang, and 4 history APs. Headed to an Ivy- but got into Hopkins, Duke and Georgetown too.

Rising junior - 5 AP Euro history. They take bulk junior and senior year at his JS.

no languages??

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My DD with LD got two 2s and was very sad, as she though she did pretty well. She got As in both classes, though (Lang and World). It’ll be obvious when she doesn’t submit the grades, but oh well. Onward and upward.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD with LD got two 2s and was very sad, as she though she did pretty well. She got As in both classes, though (Lang and World). It’ll be obvious when she doesn’t submit the grades, but oh well. Onward and upward.

Oh, and I realize grade inflation is very real - my DD’s As we’re rounded up from A and a B quarter grades - but she has an IEP and busted her a$$.