If you are divorced and will never remarry

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Anonymous wrote:I am married but fantasize about freedom and divorce. I have two kids and love them to pièces. They are why I am still here. I have my own money, retirement and kids are set with their college funds, all thanks to me. Husband is not of much use and expected me to be taken care of 24/7. I have stopped this nonsense. I sleep in my own bed. I do my thing with my girlfriends.
Frankly I don’t understand why a financially independent woman would ever want to get married. There’s nothing in it for her.
I caved to family pressure (I’m an immigrant from a conservative family). They wanted me married and I did. I’m now miserable but trying to keep a smile on my face. Not sure how long I’ll be able to keep up with the pretense.

Sounds like once you got what you wanted -- marriage to get your family off your back and kids -- you just opted out of the marriage. Sounds pretty underhanded and shallow.

She said he's useless, and expects her to do everything. No thanks, he sounds horrible. Hope she can get away at some point!

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Anonymous wrote:I am married but fantasize about freedom and divorce. I have two kids and love them to pièces. They are why I am still here. I have my own money, retirement and kids are set with their college funds, all thanks to me. Husband is not of much use and expected me to be taken care of 24/7. I have stopped this nonsense. I sleep in my own bed. I do my thing with my girlfriends.
Frankly I don’t understand why a financially independent woman would ever want to get married. There’s nothing in it for her.
I caved to family pressure (I’m an immigrant from a conservative family). They wanted me married and I did. I’m now miserable but trying to keep a smile on my face. Not sure how long I’ll be able to keep up with the pretense.

Sounds like once you got what you wanted -- marriage to get your family off your back and kids -- you just opted out of the marriage. Sounds pretty underhanded and shallow.

She said he's useless, and expects her to do everything. No thanks, he sounds horrible. Hope she can get away at some point!

I'm sure he suddenly became that way after marriage and kids! Also, useless? Really? Does he make no money? Contribute nothing to the household?

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Anonymous wrote:I am married but fantasize about freedom and divorce. I have two kids and love them to pièces. They are why I am still here. I have my own money, retirement and kids are set with their college funds, all thanks to me. Husband is not of much use and expected me to be taken care of 24/7. I have stopped this nonsense. I sleep in my own bed. I do my thing with my girlfriends.
Frankly I don’t understand why a financially independent woman would ever want to get married. There’s nothing in it for her.
I caved to family pressure (I’m an immigrant from a conservative family). They wanted me married and I did. I’m now miserable but trying to keep a smile on my face. Not sure how long I’ll be able to keep up with the pretense.

Why don't you divorce once the kids are independent. Start planning it now, that always helps. My friend rented a big storage to start putting stuff inside for another place. Many women have to stay for finances or retirement because that's a big hit in divorce. That's the only thing I can think of that's keeping you. Sucks I know, but many women in that situation. And yes many have good jobs, but divorce is a big change. Especially if you're over 40.

This is pathological. Jeez.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still laughing at the guy in Great Falls who said that mowing his 1/3 of an acre is dangerous. HAHA! What a wuss.

35,000 people are injured each year mowing their lawn (and close to 100 are killed each year). It's one of the most dangerous activities you can undertake at home. A friend of mine did die while mowing on a hot day. I don't let my kids operate a mower.

Those people are probably using a push mower and having heart attacks. It is almost impossible to injure yourself driving a ride on mower.

Actually accidents can happen with riding lawn mowers on steep inclines. You need to teach your child all aspects of safe operating procedures. Our 13yr son has been mowing our lawn with a zero turn mower for 5+ years with no issues. I make sure to be outside with him when he mows.

Yes. Bear in mind "hot dangerous" mower man is an adult.

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Anonymous wrote:It should be required reading for ANYONE contemplating marriage.
Men seem to feel entitled to maybe mow the lawn on Saturday morning then spend the rest of the weekend on the couch with a beer watching football while the wife takes care of the kids, the laundry, the meals, shopping, dishes.... The unfairness breeds resentment and that is poison to a relationship.

Man here. I'd rather do the laundry for a year, rather than mow the lawn once (I have 1/3 of an acre). This is an example of women being out of touch with reality. Mowing is hot, dirty, loud, and dangerous. And it's not just the mowing, it's the maintenance and repair of the mower.

I've been doing laundry as a 50-50 dad for nearly a decade. It's about the easiest household chore. Yes, I fold all the laundry, and iron a few things.

Single woman who is in touch enough with reality to promise you this:

I’d rather pay $25 to get the terribly “hot dirty dangerous” job of moving my measly 1/3 acre- for all of eternity- rather than listen to this mansplain nonsense. Plus, they’re younger and hotter and now shirtless all summer.

The beauty of divorce is not having to pay you on the back and say “great job warrior!!” For something that took 2 seconds and barely any cost to outsource.

Your reply shows how out of touch with reality you are. Three years ago my mower was broken so I hired a company to mow. It was $60 then, and it's probably $90 now. The Guatemalans who did the job were 5'4" and wore long sleeves.

Find a company that will mow my lawn for $25 in Great Falls and I will outsource.

I live in a different state, closer to Mexico. My labor is cheaper. That's what I pay for a mow weekly. Even if it was $60, or $90, it would be worth it to not listed to you complain and tell me your tiny violin story about short foreign mowers and OH! The terrible heat. So hot, so hard............. so don't care.

This is why women with money intimidate many men. Like whiney pants man here. I must be out of touch because I can replace all his efforts with one call on the phone, and no noticeable change to my bank account.

Go fold some laundry.

When I read what you wrote I'm picturing a fat woman who has unnaturally-colored hair, and lots of cats.

I love that! I'm fit, with dogs, but thank you for playing.

I swear this site makes me want to upload W2's and photos to Jeff, its so old being called a liar about money, and whatever shade of ugly men like to call women who aren't cowtowing to them.

Ha sometimes I think this too. Of course I know it plays into the idea that you can’t have valid opinions if you’re unattractive and have cats, but still. It’s like men think that women only disagree with them just because they’re bitter than men don’t want to sleep with them. Ha no. That’s you projecting, sir.

Exactly. I've been the antagonizing wealthy woman poster in this thread. I'm mostly just having a laugh at your expense, men who come on here with your "you so ugly" "You has cats", and "You golddigger" comments. I like men, in general. Its an uncomfortable truth, how much and how easily certain women trigger certain men. I am one of them, because I don't need them ~ I'm independently wealthy and I am pretty/ageing well. Its a real thing. If men cant call you broke, they call you ugly and/or pathetic. If they can't call you either one, without looking stupid, they can get really mean at times. Is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:I am married but fantasize about freedom and divorce. I have two kids and love them to pièces. They are why I am still here. I have my own money, retirement and kids are set with their college funds, all thanks to me. Husband is not of much use and expected me to be taken care of 24/7. I have stopped this nonsense. I sleep in my own bed. I do my thing with my girlfriends.
Frankly I don’t understand why a financially independent woman would ever want to get married. There’s nothing in it for her.
I caved to family pressure (I’m an immigrant from a conservative family). They wanted me married and I did. I’m now miserable but trying to keep a smile on my face. Not sure how long I’ll be able to keep up with the pretense.

Why don't you divorce once the kids are independent. Start planning it now, that always helps. My friend rented a big storage to start putting stuff inside for another place. Many women have to stay for finances or retirement because that's a big hit in divorce. That's the only thing I can think of that's keeping you. Sucks I know, but many women in that situation. And yes many have good jobs, but divorce is a big change. Especially if you're over 40.

Im getting organized. I’m worried about my kids and their reaction. I also feel guilty.
Husband is selfish and doesn’t consider their needs at all. I do all the driving, kids’ medical and dental appointments, find tutors for the kids when needed, find sports and activities, pay the bills, find handymen etc for the house, do the budgeting, do and monitor our financial investments, attend the teachers meetings and conferences and on and on…. He is there physically but completely disengaged. He makes less than me. He has a PhD. He is lethargic and has no drive. He used to make me laugh at least. Not anymore. He has ED and I haven’t had good sex in 11 years. He wants me to give him handjobs because he can’t get it up. Should I get going?

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Anonymous wrote:It should be required reading for ANYONE contemplating marriage.
Men seem to feel entitled to maybe mow the lawn on Saturday morning then spend the rest of the weekend on the couch with a beer watching football while the wife takes care of the kids, the laundry, the meals, shopping, dishes.... The unfairness breeds resentment and that is poison to a relationship.

Man here. I'd rather do the laundry for a year, rather than mow the lawn once (I have 1/3 of an acre). This is an example of women being out of touch with reality. Mowing is hot, dirty, loud, and dangerous. And it's not just the mowing, it's the maintenance and repair of the mower.

I've been doing laundry as a 50-50 dad for nearly a decade. It's about the easiest household chore. Yes, I fold all the laundry, and iron a few things.

Single woman who is in touch enough with reality to promise you this:

I’d rather pay $25 to get the terribly “hot dirty dangerous” job of moving my measly 1/3 acre- for all of eternity- rather than listen to this mansplain nonsense. Plus, they’re younger and hotter and now shirtless all summer.

The beauty of divorce is not having to pay you on the back and say “great job warrior!!” For something that took 2 seconds and barely any cost to outsource.

Your reply shows how out of touch with reality you are. Three years ago my mower was broken so I hired a company to mow. It was $60 then, and it's probably $90 now. The Guatemalans who did the job were 5'4" and wore long sleeves.

Find a company that will mow my lawn for $25 in Great Falls and I will outsource.

I live in a different state, closer to Mexico. My labor is cheaper. That's what I pay for a mow weekly. Even if it was $60, or $90, it would be worth it to not listed to you complain and tell me your tiny violin story about short foreign mowers and OH! The terrible heat. So hot, so hard............. so don't care.

This is why women with money intimidate many men. Like whiney pants man here. I must be out of touch because I can replace all his efforts with one call on the phone, and no noticeable change to my bank account.

Go fold some laundry.

When I read what you wrote I'm picturing a fat woman who has unnaturally-colored hair, and lots of cats.

I love that! I'm fit, with dogs, but thank you for playing.

I swear this site makes me want to upload W2's and photos to Jeff, its so old being called a liar about money, and whatever shade of ugly men like to call women who aren't cowtowing to them.

Ha sometimes I think this too. Of course I know it plays into the idea that you can’t have valid opinions if you’re unattractive and have cats, but still. It’s like men think that women only disagree with them just because they’re bitter than men don’t want to sleep with them. Ha no. That’s you projecting, sir.

Exactly. I've been the antagonizing wealthy woman poster in this thread. I'm mostly just having a laugh at your expense, men who come on here with your "you so ugly" "You has cats", and "You golddigger" comments. I like men, in general. Its an uncomfortable truth, how much and how easily certain women trigger certain men. I am one of them, because I don't need them ~ I'm independently wealthy and I am pretty/ageing well. Its a real thing. If men cant call you broke, they call you ugly and/or pathetic. If they can't call you either one, without looking stupid, they can get really mean at times. Is what it is.

I'm reading it as a mental illness on your part. Healthy adults don't brag about how much money they have, they don't call other people names. You also seem to project a lot, as in "you're intimidated by my wealth and beauty!".

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This guy is hilarious.
Woman here. I mow several acres a week, and maintain the mower myself. It is hot and loud, which is why I wear a hat, drink cold water and wear earphones. I also do laundry (!), take the kids around, cook, run the house and work. My husband does a ton of stuff, and we’re happily married, so this is definitely off topic.

But, fella, you need to up your game if you think mowing 1/3 an acre and tossing a few loads of laundry in is some kind of amazing contribution to the home. And then explaining how hard and dangerous it is, so you outsourced it to some Guatemalans. And then sighing how ladies don’t understand about all the work for maintaining the mower (which BROKE! 😂) Like you have a rocket ship or something. Your weekend is shot if you have to add oil, sharpen a blade or replace a spark plug? You don’t like to do it, fine. But on the very long list of things adults need to do, it is definitely minimal. Buck up.

OMG, lady, YOU are hilarious (not being facetious)!

I am also married, but if both our spouses die, I want to move in with you like on the Golden Girls! (I don't mow but I'm the handyman -- handylady? -- in my household.)

It’s a date! Hopefully they live a long time, though.

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Anonymous wrote:It should be required reading for ANYONE contemplating marriage.
Men seem to feel entitled to maybe mow the lawn on Saturday morning then spend the rest of the weekend on the couch with a beer watching football while the wife takes care of the kids, the laundry, the meals, shopping, dishes.... The unfairness breeds resentment and that is poison to a relationship.

Man here. I'd rather do the laundry for a year, rather than mow the lawn once (I have 1/3 of an acre). This is an example of women being out of touch with reality. Mowing is hot, dirty, loud, and dangerous. And it's not just the mowing, it's the maintenance and repair of the mower.

I've been doing laundry as a 50-50 dad for nearly a decade. It's about the easiest household chore. Yes, I fold all the laundry, and iron a few things.

Single woman who is in touch enough with reality to promise you this:

I’d rather pay $25 to get the terribly “hot dirty dangerous” job of moving my measly 1/3 acre- for all of eternity- rather than listen to this mansplain nonsense. Plus, they’re younger and hotter and now shirtless all summer.

The beauty of divorce is not having to pay you on the back and say “great job warrior!!” For something that took 2 seconds and barely any cost to outsource.

Your reply shows how out of touch with reality you are. Three years ago my mower was broken so I hired a company to mow. It was $60 then, and it's probably $90 now. The Guatemalans who did the job were 5'4" and wore long sleeves.

Find a company that will mow my lawn for $25 in Great Falls and I will outsource.

I live in a different state, closer to Mexico. My labor is cheaper. That's what I pay for a mow weekly. Even if it was $60, or $90, it would be worth it to not listed to you complain and tell me your tiny violin story about short foreign mowers and OH! The terrible heat. So hot, so hard............. so don't care.

This is why women with money intimidate many men. Like whiney pants man here. I must be out of touch because I can replace all his efforts with one call on the phone, and no noticeable change to my bank account.

Go fold some laundry.

When I read what you wrote I'm picturing a fat woman who has unnaturally-colored hair, and lots of cats.

I love that! I'm fit, with dogs, but thank you for playing.

I swear this site makes me want to upload W2's and photos to Jeff, its so old being called a liar about money, and whatever shade of ugly men like to call women who aren't cowtowing to them.

Ha sometimes I think this too. Of course I know it plays into the idea that you can’t have valid opinions if you’re unattractive and have cats, but still. It’s like men think that women only disagree with them just because they’re bitter than men don’t want to sleep with them. Ha no. That’s you projecting, sir.

Exactly. I've been the antagonizing wealthy woman poster in this thread. I'm mostly just having a laugh at your expense, men who come on here with your "you so ugly" "You has cats", and "You golddigger" comments. I like men, in general. Its an uncomfortable truth, how much and how easily certain women trigger certain men. I am one of them, because I don't need them ~ I'm independently wealthy and I am pretty/ageing well. Its a real thing. If men cant call you broke, they call you ugly and/or pathetic. If they can't call you either one, without looking stupid, they can get really mean at times. Is what it is.

I'm reading it as a mental illness on your part. Healthy adults don't brag about how much money they have, they don't call other people names. You also seem to project a lot, as in "you're intimidated by my wealth and beauty!".

Hm, I’ll look into that. I appreciate you taking the time to share your diagnosis, dr helpful.

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Well there we go. Once they’ve used up “fat” and “cats” and “broke/ gold digger”, they revert to the classic- “crazy”

Yawn.

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Anonymous wrote:It should be required reading for ANYONE contemplating marriage.
Men seem to feel entitled to maybe mow the lawn on Saturday morning then spend the rest of the weekend on the couch with a beer watching football while the wife takes care of the kids, the laundry, the meals, shopping, dishes.... The unfairness breeds resentment and that is poison to a relationship.

Man here. I'd rather do the laundry for a year, rather than mow the lawn once (I have 1/3 of an acre). This is an example of women being out of touch with reality. Mowing is hot, dirty, loud, and dangerous. And it's not just the mowing, it's the maintenance and repair of the mower.

I've been doing laundry as a 50-50 dad for nearly a decade. It's about the easiest household chore. Yes, I fold all the laundry, and iron a few things.

Single woman who is in touch enough with reality to promise you this:

I’d rather pay $25 to get the terribly “hot dirty dangerous” job of moving my measly 1/3 acre- for all of eternity- rather than listen to this mansplain nonsense. Plus, they’re younger and hotter and now shirtless all summer.

The beauty of divorce is not having to pay you on the back and say “great job warrior!!” For something that took 2 seconds and barely any cost to outsource.

Your reply shows how out of touch with reality you are. Three years ago my mower was broken so I hired a company to mow. It was $60 then, and it's probably $90 now. The Guatemalans who did the job were 5'4" and wore long sleeves.

Find a company that will mow my lawn for $25 in Great Falls and I will outsource.

I live in a different state, closer to Mexico. My labor is cheaper. That's what I pay for a mow weekly. Even if it was $60, or $90, it would be worth it to not listed to you complain and tell me your tiny violin story about short foreign mowers and OH! The terrible heat. So hot, so hard............. so don't care.

This is why women with money intimidate many men. Like whiney pants man here. I must be out of touch because I can replace all his efforts with one call on the phone, and no noticeable change to my bank account.

Go fold some laundry.

When I read what you wrote I'm picturing a fat woman who has unnaturally-colored hair, and lots of cats.

I love that! I'm fit, with dogs, but thank you for playing.

I swear this site makes me want to upload W2's and photos to Jeff, its so old being called a liar about money, and whatever shade of ugly men like to call women who aren't cowtowing to them.

Ha sometimes I think this too. Of course I know it plays into the idea that you can’t have valid opinions if you’re unattractive and have cats, but still. It’s like men think that women only disagree with them just because they’re bitter than men don’t want to sleep with them. Ha no. That’s you projecting, sir.

Exactly. I've been the antagonizing wealthy woman poster in this thread. I'm mostly just having a laugh at your expense, men who come on here with your "you so ugly" "You has cats", and "You golddigger" comments. I like men, in general. Its an uncomfortable truth, how much and how easily certain women trigger certain men. I am one of them, because I don't need them ~ I'm independently wealthy and I am pretty/ageing well. Its a real thing. If men cant call you broke, they call you ugly and/or pathetic. If they can't call you either one, without looking stupid, they can get really mean at times. Is what it is.

I'm reading it as a mental illness on your part. Healthy adults don't brag about how much money they have, they don't call other people names. You also seem to project a lot, as in "you're intimidated by my wealth and beauty!".

Hm, I’ll look into that. I appreciate you taking the time to share your diagnosis, dr helpful.

Haha okay I am laughing, both because of your response, and because you literally anticipated this kind of thing in your post! You said that if a man doesn’t like hearing he is a mansplainer, you are broke and/or fat, and if that’s disproven, you’re something else…like mentally ill!

Although it does seem like the PP might be a woman, and I will just say how interesting it is that often women come to the defense of sexist men using the same insults that men use.

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Anonymous wrote:Well there we go. Once they’ve used up “fat” and “cats” and “broke/ gold digger”, they revert to the classic- “crazy”

Yawn.

Reminder that DCUM women have an extremely limited repertoire of insults for men - not much more than "bitter, angry, incel, small pen1s".

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Anonymous wrote:The beauty of divorce is not having to pay you on the back and say “great job warrior!!” For something that took 2 seconds and barely any cost to outsource.

The beauty of divorce is not having to pretend to give a s##t about your wife's incessant nagging, demanding, and complaining just so that she will grudgingly have s#x with you as infrequently as she can get away with. Now, it's just a couple of dates and you're in bed with someone who actually wants to have s#x with you! So refreshing. And relatively cheap.

This is why women with money intimidate many men.

LOL nobody is intimidated by your stupid money. Men are repelled by your attitude not intimidated by you.

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NP and not divorced. PP, you sound bitter. I do think some men may be intimidated by the independence that money engenders and so in that sense money does intimidate men. I mean your response is such a reaction. Some men haven't adapted to the reality of this new world where women have a voice that comes from being financially independent and so don't have to put up with behaviors that were accepted in the past. Your reaction is a case in point from my perspective.

Really you're proving my point that what puts men off is not your money but your repulsive attitude. Of course, you're going to keep mistaking repulsion for fear because repulsion means the problem is you (which it is) while fear means the problem is them (which it isn't).

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Anonymous wrote:The beauty of divorce is not having to pay you on the back and say “great job warrior!!” For something that took 2 seconds and barely any cost to outsource.

The beauty of divorce is not having to pretend to give a s##t about your wife's incessant nagging, demanding, and complaining just so that she will grudgingly have s#x with you as infrequently as she can get away with. Now, it's just a couple of dates and you're in bed with someone who actually wants to have s#x with you! So refreshing. And relatively cheap.

This is why women with money intimidate many men.

LOL nobody is intimidated by your stupid money. Men are repelled by your attitude not intimidated by you.

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NP and not divorced. PP, you sound bitter. I do think some men may be intimidated by the independence that money engenders and so in that sense money does intimidate men. I mean your response is such a reaction. Some men haven't adapted to the reality of this new world where women have a voice that comes from being financially independent and so don't have to put up with behaviors that were accepted in the past. Your reaction is a case in point from my perspective.

Really you're proving my point that what puts men off is not your money but your repulsive attitude. Of course, you're going to keep mistaking repulsion for fear because repulsion means the problem is you (which it is) while fear means the problem is them (which it isn't).

DP here and I love that people are just solidifying my plan to not get remarried if my marriage ends. It is just a fact that many men don’t want to date higher-earning women (I know people say this too often, but: google is free). PP isn’t repulsive, she is just correct and has a funny sense of humor about it, and people are taking it soooo personally it’s hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:I am married but fantasize about freedom and divorce. I have two kids and love them to pièces. They are why I am still here. I have my own money, retirement and kids are set with their college funds, all thanks to me. Husband is not of much use and expected me to be taken care of 24/7. I have stopped this nonsense. I sleep in my own bed. I do my thing with my girlfriends.
Frankly I don’t understand why a financially independent woman would ever want to get married. There’s nothing in it for her.
I caved to family pressure (I’m an immigrant from a conservative family). They wanted me married and I did. I’m now miserable but trying to keep a smile on my face. Not sure how long I’ll be able to keep up with the pretense.

Why don't you divorce once the kids are independent. Start planning it now, that always helps. My friend rented a big storage to start putting stuff inside for another place. Many women have to stay for finances or retirement because that's a big hit in divorce. That's the only thing I can think of that's keeping you. Sucks I know, but many women in that situation. And yes many have good jobs, but divorce is a big change. Especially if you're over 40.

Im getting organized. I’m worried about my kids and their reaction. I also feel guilty.
Husband is selfish and doesn’t consider their needs at all. I do all the driving, kids’ medical and dental appointments, find tutors for the kids when needed, find sports and activities, pay the bills, find handymen etc for the house, do the budgeting, do and monitor our financial investments, attend the teachers meetings and conferences and on and on…. He is there physically but completely disengaged. He makes less than me. He has a PhD. He is lethargic and has no drive. He used to make me laugh at least. Not anymore. He has ED and I haven’t had good sex in 11 years. He wants me to give him handjobs because he can’t get it up. Should I get going?

Yes I would take the advice above. Start that plan in motion. Yuck the hand jobs! I hope you've stopped, he really sounds like a total turn off. Honestly, I could be very happy with my kids, and a nice pet somewhere else. Even if you have to move it would be worth it not to have to look at his face.

Get that storage locker quick!