Single Issue Voter: Controlling The Borders

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember during the 2016 Dem runoff when they all said we should give free healthcare to illegal immigrants:




Democrats just can't stand the fact the US is an autonomous country with a border. They want to dismantle the country by improting all of the poverty from central and south America. What could possibly go wrong with absolutely zero control over who comes and goes.

Mark my words. One of these days a terrorist or terrorist cell WILL sneak in given they we have the entire United Nations pouring in through Mexico now. Democrats will have dozens, hundreds, or even pehaps thousands of American citizen deaths on their hands when terrorists commit a major act.

In what sweat-soaked fever dream fentanyl-fueled fantasy world that you live in does anything you wrote make sense? Do go on, because I'm trying to understand tinfoil-land, where you and like, Kurt Schlicter are rugged heroes or the apocalypse armed and ready to defend 'murica? It's a world where you're salivating over the idea of another terrorist attack on our soil, is it?

Here's a clue, hero. Terrorists aren't going to come limping in on a busful of climate refugees. They've probably got trust funds and credit cards. Typically terrorists look a lot like you, bud. They're spoiled people who've never had to deal with any consequences, with delusions of grandeur. Sometimes they shoot up schools. Or malls. Sometimes they fly planes. Stop fearmongering. You sound weak.

Wow. Someone please lock up the LWNJ, above ^^. Talk about scary.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Need a wall. Need to deport those that are illegally here. We must enforce our border, both North and South. The fed needs to help all of our border states re enforcement/funding or get out of the way and let the individual states handle it. If we can afford to help Israel/Ukraine fight their wars, we should be able to afford to secure our border. The single biggest threat to our country.

Absolutely agree. While I support aid for both Ukraine and Israel, our national security must come first. The Republicans were smart to tie aid to border legislation. Apparently, that's the only way Democrats will finally agree to take our OWN security seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread gives me high blood pressure.

Sorry. But, it is only getting worse.

Why isn't anyone using the word NO to these migrants? Why aren't they seeking "asylum" in Mexico? What makes them feel entitled to enter the U.S.?

Honestly, no other country on earth would be allowing this. Thanks, Biden.

Quit electing do nothing republicans.
Elect moderate democrats if you actually to see this addressed.

This! As a moderate Dem, I must add that those Dems have to eschew wokeness. For example, Biden is as moderate as they come but a fair amount of wokeness (like Title IX changes) and pushing DEI has infected his presidency. I'd like that to stop.

Biden is intimidated by the woke, "progressive" wing of his party. Which is why I will never again be voting for him.

All 5 of them?

Nope. All of the "progressive" activists who have the president's ear - in addition to the squad.

To many Democratic politicians and immigration activists, the answer is yes. They believe that the U.S. has a humanitarian responsibility to admit millions of migrants who live in countries that are poorer or beset by turmoil. These immigration proponents believe that the proposals in Congress to toughen border security are cruel and xenophobic, needlessly turning away people who are eager to contribute to American society.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/18/briefing/immigration-debate.html

Progressive lawmakers, critical of Israel’s campaign into Gaza that has killed thousands of civilians, have called for humanitarian conditions to be placed on the money for Israel. And Latino Democrats in both the Senate and House have also been critical of restrictions on asylum claims.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/24/ukraine-war-aid-congress-holidays/28ddb9e8-a292-11ee-aacb-6f873a65763e_story.html

The potential risk of alienating liberal allies whose faith in the president has been strained by the ongoing war between Israel and Gaza as well as concessions during budget negotiations earlier this year is high, however.

"For Biden, we're invisible," Congressman Luis Gutierrez of Illinois said at the Capitol on Wednesday.

"They don't do any outreach. They don't do any consultation." And that, he continued, would have electoral consequences.

"Latinos won't come out to vote," he said. "And our efforts to knock on their doors to canvass and to get them out to vote will only become increasingly more difficult."

The president is caught in a bind. What happens next week will help determine how - or if - he can find a way out.
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/biden-risks-democrats-fury-again-over-border/ar-AA1lzMDZ

Representative Pramila Jayapal, a Washington Democrat, warned that Biden could lose a major part of his base if he does not focus on the needs of progressives.

"It's always been challenging for us to pay attention to our base," Jayapal, who is chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, told Punchbowl News.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-faces-new-progressive-revolt/ar-AA1lvIzF

[Anonymous]

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There should be absolutely NO agreement for more funding.

The US should threaten to cut off all funding to Mexico and tax the remittances sent to Mexico by those residing in the US.

Mexico is doing nothing to halt the illegal immigration and the US needs to wield a big stick - not a carrot.

Elections have consequences and the election of Joe Biden is turning the US into a third world country.

[Anonymous]

The best way to describe how the Dems see illegals is “imported Democrat voters.” If they thought illegals voted for Republicans, the Dems would lock the country down like it was North Korea.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Need a wall. Need to deport those that are illegally here. We must enforce our border, both North and South. The fed needs to help all of our border states re enforcement/funding or get out of the way and let the individual states handle it. If we can afford to help Israel/Ukraine fight their wars, we should be able to afford to secure our border. The single biggest threat to our country.

Absolutely agree. While I support aid for both Ukraine and Israel, our national security must come first. The Republicans were smart to tie aid to border legislation. Apparently, that's the only way Democrats will finally agree to take our OWN security seriously.

100% agreement. Need to get our house in order before we take care of friends house. Those that make this a political issue (from either side) have other motivations in play beyond our security.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember during the 2016 Dem runoff when they all said we should give free healthcare to illegal immigrants:




Democrats just can't stand the fact the US is an autonomous country with a border. They want to dismantle the country by improting all of the poverty from central and south America. What could possibly go wrong with absolutely zero control over who comes and goes.

Mark my words. One of these days a terrorist or terrorist cell WILL sneak in given they we have the entire United Nations pouring in through Mexico now. Democrats will have dozens, hundreds, or even pehaps thousands of American citizen deaths on their hands when terrorists commit a major act.

In what sweat-soaked fever dream fentanyl-fueled fantasy world that you live in does anything you wrote make sense? Do go on, because I'm trying to understand tinfoil-land, where you and like, Kurt Schlicter are rugged heroes or the apocalypse armed and ready to defend 'murica? It's a world where you're salivating over the idea of another terrorist attack on our soil, is it?

Here's a clue, hero. Terrorists aren't going to come limping in on a busful of climate refugees. They've probably got trust funds and credit cards. Typically terrorists look a lot like you, bud. They're spoiled people who've never had to deal with any consequences, with delusions of grandeur. Sometimes they shoot up schools. Or malls. Sometimes they fly planes. Stop fearmongering. You sound weak.

Wow. Someone please lock up the LWNJ, above ^^. Talk about scary.
DP

+1 (Another DP)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread gives me high blood pressure.

Sorry. But, it is only getting worse.

Why isn't anyone using the word NO to these migrants? Why aren't they seeking "asylum" in Mexico? What makes them feel entitled to enter the U.S.?

Honestly, no other country on earth would be allowing this. Thanks, Biden. :roll:

Please explain how Biden has any control over this mass of people. He's not leading them here.

Some of you need to get your heads out of your right-wing butts.

Liar. Opening the borders was a major part of the Democrat Presidential debates. Every single Democrat presidential candidate raised their hand on stage in full support of open borders. The entire civilized world watched in horror.

Sad how Democrats latch onto outright lies every time they have anything to say. This is only one example. Shame on you!

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This fiction that Democrats on this thread (and elsewhere) are pushing, is beyond pathetic. On day one of his presidency, Biden overturned any Trump migrant protocols that were actually working. This disaster is completely on Biden's shoulders.

Biden 2020 voter here. Yep. Biden or more accurately Harris ‘effed this border crisis up. The far-left has taken control of my party and it sucks. There’s no one to vote for in 2024. The only reason to vote for Biden-Harris is because I despise everything Trump represents. I do acknowledge that Trump was right about the border and Biden should have left a lot of those policies in place. The border is a cluster fucck.

And I disagree with an earlier poster who said that terrorist would not come across the border. That’s such a naive statement that you just shake your head and move on because you can’t reason with stupid or naivety.

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"I believe everything I see in Fox News. Also, I saw Jesus in my toast, vaccines have microchip tracking, I take a lot of Seroquel, and I love Tucker Carlson."

--this poster.

DP. Ah, the idiot "Jesus toast" poster continues to embarrass herself. Here is the same news story, straight from the ICE website, with some extra special bonus information, just for you. I'm so sorry you are unable to accept actual facts.

"In fiscal year 2022, ERO arrested 46,396 noncitizens with criminal histories. This group had 198,498 associated charges and convictions, including 21,531 assault offenses, 8,164 sex and sexual assault offenses, 5,554 weapons offenses, 1,501 homicide-related offenses, and 1,114 kidnapping offenses."

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ero-los-angeles-arrests-26-convicted-sexual-predators-local-2-day-operation

I'm a DP, so not the Jesus toast poster. Without a doubt, there are criminals among the group of people who are illegal immigrants. But some of you like to paint it that all illegal immigrants are sex offenders or rapists or murderers etc and that is absolute nonsense. There are a whole hell of a lot of criminals among our legal citizen population. Can you find those same percentages for them? Are you equally worried about them? You are trying to demonize immigrants.

Do I want safe borders? Yes, I do. Do I think people should have to go through a legal process to live in this country. Yes, I do. Do I think all illegal immigrants are the worst sort of people? No, I don't. Most of them are just desperate refugees.

PPs like you who demonize all of them, now you are sacks of excrement. No compassion whatsoever.

Also, nearly to a person, these anti-immigrant posters are all recent immigrants themselves, or the children of recent immigrants. It's less about the tides of people Jesus toast has seen on Fox News (although they and her toast are the ones telling her to be frightened, and she always is), than it her massive class insecurity, the belief she has in her heart that she's not 'American' enough.

But that's your own problem, Jesus toast. You're just as American as I am. It's just that perhaps growing up on stories like the Los Gatos place crash, which happened on land my family used to rent before their own crops failed, I'm a little more aware of how agriculture and food production works in this country. We've always relied on labor, and a lot of its conditions are to this day closer to chattal slavery than you'd like to think.

The problem isn't with thousands of people fleeing north in search of a better future for their families... (And, by the way, most of those people are refugees, not "migrants" or "illegals.") The problem is in your own dimwitted heart, which is frightened because the television told you to be.

As I've said before, my xenophobic great grandparents couldn't keep your family out, thank God. And our nation is richer for it.

DP. Thank you for so beautifully illustrating the insane ramblings of the LWNJ mind. Let us know how many illegal immigrant families you're housing in your home, putting through school, paying the medical bills of.

You seem incredibly obsessed with Fox News, so I take it you don't get your news anywhere else. If you did, you'd know that ALL news sources are reporting on the border crisis, something you'd apparently love for voters to ignore. I give you the NYT:

"To many Republican politicians — and most voters, polls suggest — the porous southern border is an urgent problem. Since President Biden took office, the number of people apprehended at the border (a proxy for flows of illegal immigration) has risen more than fourfold compared with the average level in the 2010s. The data suggest that thousands of people are entering the country illegally each day. This surge has created chaos in parts of southern Texas and Arizona and has strained resources as far away as Chicago, Denver and New York.

Pull factors have also been important. During Biden’s presidential campaign, he spoke in much more welcoming tones than not only Donald Trump but also Barack Obama. “We’re a nation that says, ‘If you want to flee, and you’re fleeing oppression, you should come,’” Biden said during a 2020 campaign debate co-hosted by Univision, which has a large audience in Latin America.

Today, migrants who manage to set foot on U.S. soil can often claim asylum. Some genuinely qualify because they have a credible fear of repression in their home countries. Many others do not qualify, but they have learned that claiming asylum allows them to remain in the U.S. for months, if not years, while their case is heard."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/18/briefing/immigration-debate.html

I noticed you never answered my question about your own background...

That's because I'm right.

The funny thing is, I'm closer to a moderate Republican than you are. I don't believe in "open borders," (or as you call them, "open boarders"). I think the key to tackling illegal immigration is to go after employers who hire them, something you would never do because you like your cheap chicken and your army of landscapers.

But I wholeheartedly support immigration reform and access to America because, unlike you, I don't find poor people who want a better life scary. We are a big country with a lot of hollowed-out cities and suburbs where recent immigrants have created entire communities in what used to be vacant lots and abandoned strip malls. I see a necessity in that that you, probably cowering in some mcmansion (or townhouse) in Loudon, miss.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have a legislative immigration problem.
The only answer is support and pressure on moderate dems to solve it.
Republicans do not believe in government and have proven dysfunctional and unable to govern.
Electing moderate democrats is the only solution.

Absolute bull$hit. According to the liberals here, Biden is a moderate democrat and he is the one that has caused this horrendous crisis. Only one democrat in congress has spoken out from the beginning about this mess - Henry Cuellar. Not one other democrat would admit there was a crisis.

Democrats would do nothing except allocate more money for processing and release. Democrats are the problem here. Vote them out.

You’re angry
But you are also misinformed
If you want change, you’ll need a strengthened moderate democratic caucus.
Republicans aren’t capable of solving this crisis.
Oh, and I’ll never leave this thread alone. I’ll
Spam it well into the new year.
Frankly I’m sick of your crap.

DP. The relevant line is bolded. All you're doing is spamming and trolling nonsense that is easily disproved. I agree with the PP. Not one moderate Democrat - except Henry Cuellar - has spoken out. Not one. You have not one leg to stand on here.

I admit he border is broken and requires immediate action. However there is no need to lie to bolster your position. Senators Peters, Manchin, Warner and Sinema have spoken out against the crisis. Governors of Massachusetts and New York are speaking about the border disaster. And mayors from New York, Denver, El Paso , Chicago and even our very own DC are now overwhelmed and speaking harshly about the border crisis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There should be absolutely NO agreement for more funding.

The US should threaten to cut off all funding to Mexico and tax the remittances sent to Mexico by those residing in the US.

Mexico is doing nothing to halt the illegal immigration and the US needs to wield a big stick - not a carrot.

Elections have consequences and the election of Joe Biden is turning the US into a third world country.

and remember Joe No Borders Biden has done all he can to expand legal immigration also. He has expanded the Admins favorite work visa, to replace US citizens with cheap foreign labor. Which the Admin heartily supports like most urban elites.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The best way to describe how the Dems see illegals is “imported Democrat voters.” If they thought illegals voted for Republicans, the Dems would lock the country down like it was North Korea.

Those of us who actually know something about our government understand that only US citizens can vote.

[Anonymous]

All hat and no cowboy sanctuary city mental midget Eric Adam’s pleading hysterically trying to handle a number of illegals that’s minuscule compared to the southerst