Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Anonymous wrote:I am shocked that people are shocked. It happens everywhere. Or else why would people who have good public options pull their children from great privates and make huge donations to HRCS in DC? When SAT and AP exams are being administered in the students’ school, it is not at all difficult to manipulate tge results, get 5’s in every exam and ensure the student gets credit for all those courses in university.

I think the prevailing emotion is schadenfreude, not shock.

The prevailing emotion is - HAPPY THEY GOT CAUGHT.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like they didn’t go to a good private school w top admissions counselors who could have advised them how to do this “legally” - lots of wealthy people whose kids are athletes who get into ivies w donations commitments

+1000

All top privates know how to work the system for wealthy parents

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Anonymous wrote:This is the downside of holistic admissions. Too easy to manipulate the results.

Yet another reason why schools should no longer be allowed to offer preferences or scholarships to athletes.

It wasn't just athleticism. These parents paid people to take the SAT and ACTs in place of their kids and submit those scores in the admissions packet.

They'll get them on all counts of fraud.

Look, colleges have been known to drop students if they do something inappropriate during their senior year of High School. This is outright fraud on the part of the students and their families. The students know they didn't take the SAT or ACT and yet mysteriously got a great score; the students know they don't play certain sports and yet are getting accepted due to their sports performance.

I scanned the 200-page complaint. It looks like at least some of the students did take the SAT and /or ACT, just with accommodations at a particular testing center. One parent was warning Key to not make the corrected score too high or the kid wouldn’t believe it. Obviously the athletes who weren’t athletes are a different case, but from what I read it seems possible that the kids didn’t know.

Lori Loughlin’s kids definitely knew. They even posed on an ERG machine to help their application as crew recruits. LOL

Wow. What scam artists.

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How are kids able to take the SAT/ACT in hotel rooms? What did this kid think was going on?

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Anonymous wrote:On a related topic—- how would SAT administrators know if someone else took the test for someone else? How is this regulated? I know the proctors in these cases changed answers/took the test for the accused kids. But in the regular world where proctors don’t know the students, is there some photo I’d check or something?

The documents seem to suggest that the kids were getting testing accommodations and the special proctors were bought. They weren't going through the ID hundreds of kids in the room testing most people do.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like they didn’t go to a good private school w top admissions counselors who could have advised them how to do this “legally” - lots of wealthy people whose kids are athletes who get into ivies w donations commitments

+1000

All top privates know how to work the system for wealthy parents

Damn straight. It’s what we’ve paying for.

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Anonymous wrote:On a related topic—- how would SAT administrators know if someone else took the test for someone else? How is this regulated? I know the proctors in these cases changed answers/took the test for the accused kids. But in the regular world where proctors don’t know the students, is there some photo I’d check or something?

The documents seem to suggest that the kids were getting testing accommodations and the special proctors were bought. They weren't going through the ID hundreds of kids in the room testing most people do.

Don't you love those testing accomodations.

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Dear DCUM bubble.
This won’t matter to the rest of the country. They’ve always know the system was rigged.

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Anonymous wrote:There was some at my DD’s private that got recruited to play tennis at an ivy, took a gap year, & never even joined the team when she got to campus. I wonder if it was something like this USC crew incident or the Penn basketball scandal right now.

There is a family at my daughter's private who have sent 3 girls to Princeton lacrosse over the last 6 years. Only one of the three actually plays in games consistently, the other two are on the roster but dont get into games. The family is flashy rich (the tacky kind); I wouldnt put them above bribing their way in.

Dude that's not cool, it took me 2 minutes of google to find out who those kids are.

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Anonymous wrote:There was some at my DD’s private that got recruited to play tennis at an ivy, took a gap year, & never even joined the team when she got to campus. I wonder if it was something like this USC crew incident or the Penn basketball scandal right now.

There is a family at my daughter's private who have sent 3 girls to Princeton lacrosse over the last 6 years. Only one of the three actually plays in games consistently, the other two are on the roster but dont get into games. The family is flashy rich (the tacky kind); I wouldnt put them above bribing their way in.

Dude that's not cool, it took me 2 minutes of google to find out who those kids are.

+1
Ps - to the ahole poster above... not being first string isn’t what we are talking about here. Of course you knew that. Sorry your kids aren’t as successful.

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Anonymous wrote:Dear DCUM bubble.
This won’t matter to the rest of the country. They’ve always know the system was rigged.

It matters to me and I long since graduated college. It's one more sign of proof that rich, white families have been cheating the system all along.

I will find this delicious to bring up whenever a friend at a lacrosse match starts ranting about affirmative action again. At least those kids got in on their own test scores.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Career Director at a local university. They could have called me and I would have saved them a ton of money. All they had to do was make a big donation. So stupid of them.

You, my friend, are the problem. As Al Pacino said in Justice for All, the whole system is out of order.

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Also quick sum up:

This scheme is for people wealthy enough to try and sneak in, but not rich enough to quadruple the $$$ and legitimately buy their way in through the front door.

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel bad for the kids - in some cases they probably didn't even know this was happening, and now they are screwed.

I think Buckingham's son was totally blindsided. Also are indictments sealed until release? So did the parents in the scandal have time to prepare before this morning?

Not that I'm shedding tears for them but a LOT of them have open social media right now. Too bad proud mom is heading to the slammer.

omg the idiot son's writing sample is GOLDEN

STOP. That can't be real.

That isn't a writing sample, it's a sample of penmanship. Did she not understand what they were asking for or was someone trying to forge his handwriting? (FWIW: My kid is crazy gifted smart and his penmanship is worse.)

I think they were trying to get a handwriting sample to the person who was going to take the ACT for him.

It was. They found a boy in 2nd grade, but his handwriting was a little too good. They eventually found a kid in 1st.

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Anonymous wrote:Dear DCUM bubble.
This won’t matter to the rest of the country. They’ve always know the system was rigged.

It matters to me and I long since graduated college. It's one more sign of proof that rich, white families have been cheating the system all along.

I will find this delicious to bring up whenever a friend at a lacrosse match starts ranting about affirmative action again. At least those kids got in on their own test scores.

You should know better.