Feds uncover large-scale college entrance exam cheating plot

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Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel bad for the kids - in some cases they probably didn't even know this was happening, and now they are screwed.

I think Buckingham's son was totally blindsided. Also are indictments sealed until release? So did the parents in the scandal have time to prepare before this morning?

Not that I'm shedding tears for them but a LOT of them have open social media right now. Too bad proud mom is heading to the slammer.

omg the idiot son's writing sample is GOLDEN

STOP. That can't be real.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently Loughlin's daughter bragged about how she is only going to college for game days and partying: “I don’t know how much of school I’m gonna attend,” she shared with her nearly 2 million subscribers, after explaining her extensive work schedule. “But I’m gonna go in and talk to my deans and everyone, and hope that I can try and balance it all. But I do want the experience of like game days, partying…I don’t really care about school, as you guys all know.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=330&v=lveMkZc-NRE

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/celebrity-kid-called-spoiled-privileged-brat-saying-shes-going-college-game-days-partying-190101738.html

Girl is an idiot. There was an outcry about this at the time and now we all know mommy paid for her admissions.

Have a heart and put the exact time when she talks about college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is that comment above basically saying the daughter was too dull to figure out how to navigate Common App website? Once you upload the recommendations and main essay, it's mostly just a lot of mouse clicks.

No, I read it as a need to bypass the high school admissions people who would have known something was up if they saw the app. They likely has advised her the school was a ridiculous reach and not to apply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently Loughlin's daughter bragged about how she is only going to college for game days and partying: “I don’t know how much of school I’m gonna attend,” she shared with her nearly 2 million subscribers, after explaining her extensive work schedule. “But I’m gonna go in and talk to my deans and everyone, and hope that I can try and balance it all. But I do want the experience of like game days, partying…I don’t really care about school, as you guys all know.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=330&v=lveMkZc-NRE

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/celebrity-kid-called-spoiled-privileged-brat-saying-shes-going-college-game-days-partying-190101738.html

Girl is an idiot. There was an outcry about this at the time and now we all know mommy paid for her admissions.

Have a heart and put the exact time when she talks about college.

5:30

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently Loughlin's daughter bragged about how she is only going to college for game days and partying: “I don’t know how much of school I’m gonna attend,” she shared with her nearly 2 million subscribers, after explaining her extensive work schedule. “But I’m gonna go in and talk to my deans and everyone, and hope that I can try and balance it all. But I do want the experience of like game days, partying…I don’t really care about school, as you guys all know.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=330&v=lveMkZc-NRE

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/celebrity-kid-called-spoiled-privileged-brat-saying-shes-going-college-game-days-partying-190101738.html

Girl is an idiot. There was an outcry about this at the time and now we all know mommy paid for her admissions.

Have a heart and put the exact time when she talks about college.

5:30

Her YouTube fame is gonna skyrocket! All publicity is good publicity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a market for this kind of corruption and so it exists. Lack of transparency in how colleges select students is also a factor. It allows them to discriminate against Asian-Americans, it allows them to take bribes (legacies and donations are no different).

+1.

It is so.......holistic.

[Anonymous]

I'm a Career Director at a local university. They could have called me and I would have saved them a ton of money. All they had to do was make a big donation. So stupid of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel bad for the kids - in some cases they probably didn't even know this was happening, and now they are screwed.

I think Buckingham's son was totally blindsided. Also are indictments sealed until release? So did the parents in the scandal have time to prepare before this morning?

Not that I'm shedding tears for them but a LOT of them have open social media right now. Too bad proud mom is heading to the slammer.

omg the idiot son's writing sample is GOLDEN

STOP. That can't be real.

That isn't a writing sample, it's a sample of penmanship. Did she not understand what they were asking for or was someone trying to forge his handwriting? (FWIW: My kid is crazy gifted smart and his penmanship is worse.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:BOOM! Georgetown coach took almost $900k! One kid never played tennis at all.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1142876/download

Between 2012 and 2018, SINGER paid a Georgetown tennis coach bribes, falsely
labeled as "consulting" fees, totaling more than $2.7 million. SINGER typically made the
payments from one of the KWF charitable accounts and sent them to the coach via U.S. Mail,
including in several instances to the coach's residence in Falmouth, Massachusetts. ^
53. In exchange for the bribes, the Georgetown coach designated approximately 12
applicants as recruits for the Georgetown tennis team, including some who did not play tennis
competitively, thereby facilitating their admission to the imiversity.

I'm not from around here, so I wonder if someone can, please, enlighten me. Doesn't the coach report to the athletic director, and, most importantly, don't they need to produce results in their sport? If you admit kids who don't even play your game, who's going to compete on behalf of your school?
I can -- sorta -- see how in a team sport you can always claim so and so was injured and was benched/replaced. But for an individual sport, like tennis, in a preppy school like Georgetown? Plus, when you apply as an athlete, don't you have to submit proof of your athletic accomplishments (official tournament results, ratings, etc)?
Baffling. Utterly baffling.

You are assuming the admission folks track the athletes after the athlete has been admitted. There is no system for that....the admission folks are on to the next year and really do not care about last years applicants. The coach/athletic department just flag/marks the application as someone they would like. Many times the bottom part of the team are not on scholarship and paying full price to attend school. This kids help the teams over GPA and graduation rates. Something that is tracked.

Exactly. No one knows who is on the end of the bench in soccer, or tennis, or crew... Coach could keep on the team, or not, with probably zero effect on team success. I'd say it would just be to help GPA but maybe not if they needed a bribe to get into the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently Loughlin's daughter bragged about how she is only going to college for game days and partying: “I don’t know how much of school I’m gonna attend,” she shared with her nearly 2 million subscribers, after explaining her extensive work schedule. “But I’m gonna go in and talk to my deans and everyone, and hope that I can try and balance it all. But I do want the experience of like game days, partying…I don’t really care about school, as you guys all know.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=330&v=lveMkZc-NRE

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/celebrity-kid-called-spoiled-privileged-brat-saying-shes-going-college-game-days-partying-190101738.html

Girl is an idiot. There was an outcry about this at the time and now we all know mommy paid for her admissions.

Have a heart and put the exact time when she talks about college.

5:30

Her YouTube fame is gonna skyrocket! All publicity is good publicity.

You don't know much about Youtube fans. The teens like to see someone who is pretty AND a hard worker. That girl is going nowhere after the fans who feel like she cheated at the one thing they were all supposed to be equal in get done with her.

The comments on her newest Youtube video (yesterday) are proof positive of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sort of feel bad for the kids - in some cases they probably didn't even know this was happening, and now they are screwed.

I think Buckingham's son was totally blindsided. Also are indictments sealed until release? So did the parents in the scandal have time to prepare before this morning?

Not that I'm shedding tears for them but a LOT of them have open social media right now. Too bad proud mom is heading to the slammer.

omg the idiot son's writing sample is GOLDEN

STOP. That can't be real.

That isn't a writing sample, it's a sample of penmanship. Did she not understand what they were asking for or was someone trying to forge his handwriting? (FWIW: My kid is crazy gifted smart and his penmanship is worse.)

I think they were trying to get a handwriting sample to the person who was going to take the ACT for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am shocked that people are shocked. It happens everywhere. Or else why would people who have good public options pull their children from great privates and make huge donations to HRCS in DC? When SAT and AP exams are being administered in the students’ school, it is not at all difficult to manipulate tge results, get 5’s in every exam and ensure the student gets credit for all those courses in university.

I think the prevailing emotion is schadenfreude, not shock.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just posted but am posting again. Imagine you are a kid who worked really, really hard throughout middle school and high school. You made sacrifices socially, economically, or whatever, to get the best grades you could. You studied like a maniac for the SAT, ACT, etc. You rewrote and rewrote and rewrote your college application essays. You did what you could to earn good letters of recommendation. You apply to schools, and you hope you have as reasonable a chance as anyone else, based on the school's admission stats. Then you are rejected from your top choices.

Then you find out your spot was taken because of bribes.

I get your point, of course, but students who do all you describe aren't rejected from USC. The bottom 25% of USC isn't terribly impressive. Also, there's an argument that rich students and donations from rich families offsets financial aid peers. $500,000 donation is enough to give half-ride scholarships to a handful of kids.

Except it wasn't a donation, it was a bribe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just posted but am posting again. Imagine you are a kid who worked really, really hard throughout middle school and high school. You made sacrifices socially, economically, or whatever, to get the best grades you could. You studied like a maniac for the SAT, ACT, etc. You rewrote and rewrote and rewrote your college application essays. You did what you could to earn good letters of recommendation. You apply to schools, and you hope you have as reasonable a chance as anyone else, based on the school's admission stats. Then you are rejected from your top choices.

Then you find out your spot was taken because of bribes.

I get your point, of course, but students who do all you describe aren't rejected from USC. The bottom 25% of USC isn't terribly impressive. Also, there's an argument that rich students and donations from rich families offsets financial aid peers. $500,000 donation is enough to give half-ride scholarships to a handful of kids.

A $500,000 donation, sure. But not a $500,000 bribe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the downside of holistic admissions. Too easy to manipulate the results.

Yet another reason why schools should no longer be allowed to offer preferences or scholarships to athletes.

Yup, admissions should be as objective as possible