Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The House already has the votes for $5B. The argument is on how to spend it.

Trump thinks he has the votes in the House, Pelosi diesagreed. And it looks like we may find out who’s right. Jake Sherman of Politico reporting that the House is moving toward putting the $5 billion wall bill on the floor.

If they knew that they had the votes, they would vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The House already has the votes for $5B. The argument is on how to spend it.

Trump thinks he has the votes in the House, Pelosi diesagreed. And it looks like we may find out who’s right. Jake Sherman of Politico reporting that the House is moving toward putting the $5 billion wall bill on the floor.

If they knew that they had the votes, they would vote.

Time for the GOP to put up or shut up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Democrats so opposed to making it even slightly more difficult for illegals to come in? Are they representing U.S. citizens or foreigners breaking our laws?

I thought mexico was paying for the wall. Why did we allow him to change this narrative?! Dems need to have this be there #1 talking point.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are Democrats so opposed to making it even slightly more difficult for illegals to come in? Are they representing U.S. citizens or foreigners breaking our laws?

Look at the transcript from yesterday and read any of the dozens of statements Dems have put out. Dems are happy to give money for real border security. But they won’t give one penny for trump’s stupid wall.

Fat Donnie is the reason we can’t have progress on border security.

From what I've read, the Democrats are offering temporary, reversible actions. They are opposed to a permanent solution, like a border wall.

A wall isn't a permanent solution.

A far better use of resources would be to: 1) beef up the immigration court system so that cases can be adjudicated more quickly. That there are illegal immigrants and asylum seekers lingering in limbo for years is ridiculous; and 2) step up prosecutions of those hiring illegal immigrants. Without jobs, there is no reason to come to America.

Exactly. The wall is a stupid, EXPENSIVE symbol. Money would be more effective elsewhere.

THIS THIS THIS... kill the demand, supply will die out.

I don't blame poor people where ever they come from for wanting to get a job to have a better life. But, if Rs and Trump *really* want to solve the illegal immigration issue, they MUST make hiring them very painful, and hit them where it hurts, ie very high penalty. Right now, the penalty isn't high enough for business owners, from the left or right, to deter them from hiring people under the table, ie, with no Taxpayer ID.

Now a days, more illegal immigrants are from visa overstays than crossing the border illegally, as in H2B visas that companies like Trump resorts use and H2As that many farmers (who happen to be mostly Rs) use. I'm thinking that most of the hIb visa holders who tend to be more highly educated aren't the ones who stay here illegally after their visa expire. It's usually the low skilled workers who overstay their visas and continue to work.

The second issue is fraudulent taxpayer ID. The federal government needs to better fund the IRS to fight fraud, and that includes rich white people who evade their taxes in the form of offshore accounts (ie, Panama Papers, and I'm sure there are more).

[Anonymous]

Leave it to liberals to only pull out key bits.

On film, you have Trump demanding more border security, which includes his wall, you have Trump promising to shut down part of the government if he does not get the security requested, and Schumer and Pelosi saying that what we have now is good enough. ON FILM.

Brilliant move on Trump's part

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Leave it to liberals to only pull out key bits.

On film, you have Trump demanding more border security, which includes his wall, you have Trump promising to shut down part of the government if he does not get the security requested, and Schumer and Pelosi saying that what we have now is good enough. ON FILM.

Brilliant move on Trump's part

Fascinating how two people can watch the same meeting and arrive at two different conclusions.

You think he owned the libs. Others see him getting owned. I see both perspectives on Twitter, as well as here.

Did you watch the meeting live?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Leave it to liberals to only pull out key bits.

On film, you have Trump demanding more border security, which includes his wall, you have Trump promising to shut down part of the government if he does not get the security requested, and Schumer and Pelosi saying that what we have now is good enough. ON FILM.

Brilliant move on Trump's part

Brilliant indeed, owning the Trump shutdown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The House already has the votes for $5B. The argument is on how to spend it.

Trump thinks he has the votes in the House, Pelosi diesagreed. And it looks like we may find out who’s right. Jake Sherman of Politico reporting that the House is moving toward putting the $5 billion wall bill on the floor.

If they knew that they had the votes, they would vote.

Time for the GOP to put up or shut up.

“I’m told by senior House GOP sources that NO $5 billion wall funding bill will reach the floor this week. Republicans don’t have enough members in town to get this passed.”
- Elaina Plott, The Atlantic

[Anonymous]

This week? What about next week?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The House already has the votes for $5B. The argument is on how to spend it.

Trump thinks he has the votes in the House, Pelosi diesagreed. And it looks like we may find out who’s right. Jake Sherman of Politico reporting that the House is moving toward putting the $5 billion wall bill on the floor.

If they knew that they had the votes, they would vote.

Time for the GOP to put up or shut up.

“I’m told by senior House GOP sources that NO $5 billion wall funding bill will reach the floor this week. Republicans don’t have enough members in town to get this passed.”
- Elaina Plott, The Atlantic

Don't members of Congress get summoned back into town for important votes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Leave it to liberals to only pull out key bits.

On film, you have Trump demanding more border security, which includes his wall, you have Trump promising to shut down part of the government if he does not get the security requested, and Schumer and Pelosi saying that what we have now is good enough. ON FILM.

Brilliant move on Trump's part

Trump didn't mention border security until Pelosi did. Before that it was the wall and only the wall. Chuck and Nancy even orchestrated that and somehow you are too stupid to understand it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Leave it to liberals to only pull out key bits.

On film, you have Trump demanding more border security, which includes his wall, you have Trump promising to shut down part of the government if he does not get the security requested, and Schumer and Pelosi saying that what we have now is good enough. ON FILM.

Brilliant move on Trump's part

I didn't read "The Art of the Deal," but I have read other books on negotiating and all of those books say you have to offer something to get something. He wanted a wall. He wanted a wall for two years. He's needed Democrats in the Senate for two years. And in all that time, he has never one single thing in exchange for a wall. It was painfully obvious at this meeting. All he offered was a threat to shutdown. Instead of offering carrots, he offered to smack all three of them with a stick, wait two weeks, and let Pelosi smack him back. What a deal!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The House already has the votes for $5B. The argument is on how to spend it.

Trump thinks he has the votes in the House, Pelosi diesagreed. And it looks like we may find out who’s right. Jake Sherman of Politico reporting that the House is moving toward putting the $5 billion wall bill on the floor.

If they knew that they had the votes, they would vote.

Time for the GOP to put up or shut up.

“I’m told by senior House GOP sources that NO $5 billion wall funding bill will reach the floor this week. Republicans don’t have enough members in town to get this passed.”
- Elaina Plott, The Atlantic

Don't members of Congress get summoned back into town for important votes?

A huge number of Rs are retiring or were voted out. Not much you can do to compel them to return. Trump definitely should have nailed down his border funding before he lost the House.womp womp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leave it to liberals to only pull out key bits.

On film, you have Trump demanding more border security, which includes his wall, you have Trump promising to shut down part of the government if he does not get the security requested, and Schumer and Pelosi saying that what we have now is good enough. ON FILM.

Brilliant move on Trump's part

Fascinating how two people can watch the same meeting and arrive at two different conclusions.

You think he owned the libs. Others see him getting owned. I see both perspectives on Twitter, as well as here.

Did you watch the meeting live?

The whole thing. Schumer asked for it to continue privately. Not Trump. Why don’t Pelosi and Schumer want a wall?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leave it to liberals to only pull out key bits.

On film, you have Trump demanding more border security, which includes his wall, you have Trump promising to shut down part of the government if he does not get the security requested, and Schumer and Pelosi saying that what we have now is good enough. ON FILM.

Brilliant move on Trump's part

I didn't read "The Art of the Deal," but I have read other books on negotiating and all of those books say you have to offer something to get something. He wanted a wall. He wanted a wall for two years. He's needed Democrats in the Senate for two years. And in all that time, he has never one single thing in exchange for a wall. It was painfully obvious at this meeting. All he offered was a threat to shutdown. Instead of offering carrots, he offered to smack all three of them with a stick, wait two weeks, and let Pelosi smack him back. What a deal!

Why don’t Dems want border protection?