Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Democrats so opposed to making it even slightly more difficult for illegals to come in? Are they representing U.S. citizens or foreigners breaking our laws?

Look at the transcript from yesterday and read any of the dozens of statements Dems have put out. Dems are happy to give money for real border security. But they won’t give one penny for trump’s stupid wall.

Fat Donnie is the reason we can’t have progress on border security.

From what I've read, the Democrats are offering temporary, reversible actions. They are opposed to a permanent solution, like a border wall.

Because the border wall is the dumbest idea ever. And why blame the Democrats when the GOP had 2 years to make this happen? Total fail.

A wall to make illegal entry more difficult, combined with additional border agents, will be at least somewhat effective.

The wall has to be high enough so the violent ones can't throw rocks over it.

And clear so they can’t drop their bags of drugs on unsuspecting innocents hanging out on the good side of the wall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Democrats so opposed to making it even slightly more difficult for illegals to come in? Are they representing U.S. citizens or foreigners breaking our laws?

Why are Repubs opposed to simple measures like E-verify? And why do they not want penalties for employers who hire illegals? Are they afraid of alienating the farmers who reliably vote GOP? Looks like the GOP is perfectly happy with the status quo of having illegal workers entering.

It certainly does. They seem to want political theater, not a crackdown on businesses and employers who hire all the illegals. Or, propose a usable guest worker system for farmers and agricultural businesses.

The GOP won't crack down on the businesses and employers who hire the illegals because they hire illegals themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Democrats so opposed to making it even slightly more difficult for illegals to come in? Are they representing U.S. citizens or foreigners breaking our laws?

Look at the transcript from yesterday and read any of the dozens of statements Dems have put out. Dems are happy to give money for real border security. But they won’t give one penny for trump’s stupid wall.

Fat Donnie is the reason we can’t have progress on border security.

From what I've read, the Democrats are offering temporary, reversible actions. They are opposed to a permanent solution, like a border wall.

Ever heard of a ladder or tunnels?

How is the Israel wall 99.9% effective in the face of tunnels and ladders?

Walling off a much smaller area with a much higher frequency of patrols than we could ever manage. A large part of their "wall" is actually a fence. Israel has 175,000 active duty military to work both sides. ICE has 20,000 employees, they can't go into Mexico and they aren't all at the border.

[Anonymous]

Another lie.

https://www.rollcall.com/news/policy/trump-fumbled-claim-of-capturing-10-terrorists

[Anonymous]

We wouldn't need a stupid wall if the government would start slamming companies who hire illegals. It should also be illegal for them to use public services such as public schools if they do not have proof of legal residency. If you make it harder for them to survive here under an illegal status, less will come. These changes don't require tax payer money!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Democrats so opposed to making it even slightly more difficult for illegals to come in? Are they representing U.S. citizens or foreigners breaking our laws?

Why are Repubs opposed to simple measures like E-verify? And why do they not want penalties for employers who hire illegals? Are they afraid of alienating the farmers who reliably vote GOP? Looks like the GOP is perfectly happy with the status quo of having illegal workers entering.

It certainly does. They seem to want political theater, not a crackdown on businesses and employers who hire all the illegals. Or, propose a usable guest worker system for farmers and agricultural businesses.

+1 million. And didn't Trump promise the Mexicans were going to pay for the wall? Why is he wasting US taxdollars on this boondoggle?

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The House already has the votes for $5B. The argument is on how to spend it.

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Anonymous wrote:The House already has the votes for $5B. The argument is on how to spend it.

No, the argument is about the Senate. Trump didn't know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The House already has the votes for $5B. The argument is on how to spend it.

Well yes. The "how" is always a bigger problem than the "how much."

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Democrats so opposed to making it even slightly more difficult for illegals to come in? Are they representing U.S. citizens or foreigners breaking our laws?

Why are Repubs opposed to simple measures like E-verify? And why do they not want penalties for employers who hire illegals? Are they afraid of alienating the farmers who reliably vote GOP? Looks like the GOP is perfectly happy with the status quo of having illegal workers entering.

It certainly does. They seem to want political theater, not a crackdown on businesses and employers who hire all the illegals. Or, propose a usable guest worker system for farmers and agricultural businesses.

+1 million. And didn't Trump promise the Mexicans were going to pay for the wall? Why is he wasting US taxdollars on this boondoggle?

Just add it to his compendium of broken promises.

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Anonymous wrote:The House already has the votes for $5B. The argument is on how to spend it.

Trump thinks he has the votes in the House, Pelosi diesagreed. And it looks like we may find out who’s right. Jake Sherman of Politico reporting that the House is moving toward putting the $5 billion wall bill on the floor.

[Anonymous]

Shut it down for the next two years.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Democrats so opposed to making it even slightly more difficult for illegals to come in? Are they representing U.S. citizens or foreigners breaking our laws?

Look at the transcript from yesterday and read any of the dozens of statements Dems have put out. Dems are happy to give money for real border security. But they won’t give one penny for trump’s stupid wall.

Fat Donnie is the reason we can’t have progress on border security.

From what I've read, the Democrats are offering temporary, reversible actions. They are opposed to a permanent solution, like a border wall.

Dems offered a budget that allocated an additional $1.3 billion for border security. That sounds plenty serious to me. But trump’s going to drive us into a ditch because he wants to build a stupid wall.

It's a drop in the bucket, and for what? Additional border agents that Dems will pull back if they get the WH.

Illegal immigration is at its lowest point in decades. Funding for border security has been going up year over year (including during Obama's presidency). ICE has more funding than all other federal law enforcement combined. There comes a point at which paying more for what you already have a lot of has diminishing returns. Maybe we should spend our money on things that actually improve American lives.

BUT BUT BUT....THE INVASION!!! BROWN PEOPLE COMING!!! PANIC!!!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are Democrats so opposed to making it even slightly more difficult for illegals to come in? Are they representing U.S. citizens or foreigners breaking our laws?

Look at the transcript from yesterday and read any of the dozens of statements Dems have put out. Dems are happy to give money for real border security. But they won’t give one penny for trump’s stupid wall.

Fat Donnie is the reason we can’t have progress on border security.

From what I've read, the Democrats are offering temporary, reversible actions. They are opposed to a permanent solution, like a border wall.

Dems offered a budget that allocated an additional $1.3 billion for border security. That sounds plenty serious to me. But trump’s going to drive us into a ditch because he wants to build a stupid wall.

It's a drop in the bucket, and for what? Additional border agents that Dems will pull back if they get the WH.

Illegal immigration is at its lowest point in decades. Funding for border security has been going up year over year (including during Obama's presidency). ICE has more funding than all other federal law enforcement combined. There comes a point at which paying more for what you already have a lot of has diminishing returns. Maybe we should spend our money on things that actually improve American lives.

Apparently ICE has more $ than it knows what to do with if it's spending $14 million to hire a firm to hire 2 CBP guards.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/771218.page

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We wouldn't need a stupid wall if the government would start slamming companies who hire illegals. It should also be illegal for them to use public services such as public schools if they do not have proof of legal residency. If you make it harder for them to survive here under an illegal status, less will come. These changes don't require tax payer money!

The Supreme Court disagrees with you on this issue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plyler_v._Doe