FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again

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Anonymous wrote:Now both Jackson and Thoreau will be three way split feeders since facilities thinks all the Madison and Oakton bound AAP kids will stay there. How did this ever become a discussion about reducing split feeders?

Because the Oakton Vienna parents were done being cherry picked because of their demographics to up a school that is not close. Gerrymandering should be illegal-it’s sole purpose is to play with numbers. My house value just went up. That’s great for me. I’m now Mosby/Thoreau/Oakton. Yippee!!!

welcome to Thoreau!

With an option still to stay at Luther Jackson for AAP. I must have missed where the Mosby parents got up and said they didn't want Jackson as an AAP option anymore. What's another bus though.

Who would turn down being the privileged ones with more choices rather than fewer choices? And if you already have a kid at Jackson AAP, you might as well ride it out. But it is going to be a mess that almost all with a choice will avoid in short order.

[Anonymous]

The Camelot and Fairhill parents have themselves to blame.

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Anonymous wrote:The Camelot and Fairhill parents have themselves to blame.

Maybe they don't see it as a negative like you do. Maybe they see it as a POSITIVE -- getting 150 kids out of LJ this year and eventually having 300 less than they have now. Maybe they are fine with the education their kids are receiving (even if other kids are struggling with other challenges -- language, economic background). Maybe they have more faith in their kids' ability and faith in the LJ administration and teachers to keep doing what they've been doing all along.

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9:44. How do you feel about Poe? Would you want to be a parent with a child there? This is what they just did to Jackson.

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By putting kids in their pyramid schools?! Really! Kids who come from MW, MR and OES go to high schools in a different pyramid under a different asst superintendent.

Region 1 (Herndon, Langley, Madison, Oakton, and South Lakes Pyramids)

[Anonymous]

Comparing SOL statistics of POE to Frost 8th grade

Poe Pass Advanced
Reading - 14 kids
Math - 14 kids

Frost Pass Advanced
Reading - 166 kids
Math - 120 kids

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Anonymous wrote:By putting kids in their pyramid schools?! Really! Kids who come from MW, MR and OES go to high schools in a different pyramid under a different asst superintendent.

Region 1 (Herndon, Langley, Madison, Oakton, and South Lakes Pyramids)

So does half the county.

[Anonymous]

When we were house hunting, to upgrade from a TH in Vienna (OHS pyramid), we looked at beautiful SFH in Vienna that fed to FCHS. They weren’t much more to buy than our TH in the OHS pyramid. We decided to spend about 100k more for a similar house and stay in the OHS pyramid. So, folks who bought beautiful SFH for a cheaper price than those other houses just 1 mike away, know that the market took your FCHS pyramid into account.

It’s always best to be the shittiest house in the better district than to be the nicest in a crappy district. We happen to have a very nice house (but $$) and in a great district - OHS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When we were house hunting, to upgrade from a TH in Vienna (OHS pyramid), we looked at beautiful SFH in Vienna that fed to FCHS. They weren’t much more to buy than our TH in the OHS pyramid. We decided to spend about 100k more for a similar house and stay in the OHS pyramid. So, folks who bought beautiful SFH for a cheaper price than those other houses just 1 mike away, know that the market took your FCHS pyramid into account.

It’s always best to be the shittiest house in the better district than to be the nicest in a crappy district. We happen to have a very nice house (but $$) and in a great district - OHS.

Do you think somehow you've escaped FCPS's poor policies? There are high schools in Fairfax on the brink of failure that we all have to support. So to fix them instead of integration they pull money from the wealthy and try to bring up scores which would have been easier just through integration. Oakton is getting a renovation to be 2600 students. Not everyone wants that large of a high school. There is also no need for one since we have other high schools that are dropping in population due to these segregated boundary decisions.

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Although this certainly changes the dynamics among the base school population, I don't buy that LJ's phenomenal AAP program (which emphasizes rigorous academics and prepares students extremely well for high school, including TJ) will falter, as many are predicting. Why would parents of AAP students that value academics abandon the incredible teachers and excellent track record of academic preparation that LJ AAP produces to move them to a fledgling Local Level IV program at a now more-crowded TMS? The most serious AAP students at the AAP Centers in Vienna and Oakton will continue to choose LJ AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:Although this certainly changes the dynamics among the base school population, I don't buy that LJ's phenomenal AAP program (which emphasizes rigorous academics and prepares students extremely well for high school, including TJ) will falter, as many are predicting. Why would parents of AAP students that value academics abandon the incredible teachers and excellent track record of academic preparation that LJ AAP produces to move them to a fledgling Local Level IV program at a now more-crowded TMS? The most serious AAP students at the AAP Centers in Vienna and Oakton will continue to choose LJ AAP.

For the next several years sure. But school board members are supposed to consider a longer term strategy.

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Anonymous wrote:Although this certainly changes the dynamics among the base school population, I don't buy that LJ's phenomenal AAP program (which emphasizes rigorous academics and prepares students extremely well for high school, including TJ) will falter, as many are predicting. Why would parents of AAP students that value academics abandon the incredible teachers and excellent track record of academic preparation that LJ AAP produces to move them to a fledgling Local Level IV program at a now more-crowded TMS? The most serious AAP students at the AAP Centers in Vienna and Oakton will continue to choose LJ AAP.

Agreed! My kids will go to LJ AAP! It’s phenomenal! My oldest went through and is working on the AP Capdtone diploma / obviously very motivated individual, and DC tells everyone that LJ was the favorite years and had the best teachers. Go Seekers!!! Go Galaxy!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Although this certainly changes the dynamics among the base school population, I don't buy that LJ's phenomenal AAP program (which emphasizes rigorous academics and prepares students extremely well for high school, including TJ) will falter, as many are predicting. Why would parents of AAP students that value academics abandon the incredible teachers and excellent track record of academic preparation that LJ AAP produces to move them to a fledgling Local Level IV program at a now more-crowded TMS? The most serious AAP students at the AAP Centers in Vienna and Oakton will continue to choose LJ AAP.

Agreed! My kids will go to LJ AAP! It’s phenomenal! My oldest went through and is working on the AP Capdtone diploma / obviously very motivated individual, and DC tells everyone that LJ was the favorite years and had the best teachers. Go Seekers!!! Go Galaxy!!!

You’re simply the tail of Jackson as it was. FCPS just gutted it, and its future is bleak.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Although this certainly changes the dynamics among the base school population, I don't buy that LJ's phenomenal AAP program (which emphasizes rigorous academics and prepares students extremely well for high school, including TJ) will falter, as many are predicting. Why would parents of AAP students that value academics abandon the incredible teachers and excellent track record of academic preparation that LJ AAP produces to move them to a fledgling Local Level IV program at a now more-crowded TMS? The most serious AAP students at the AAP Centers in Vienna and Oakton will continue to choose LJ AAP.

LOL. Don’t be daft.

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I don't dispute that there may be some changes to the LJ AAP numbers on the margins. Still, academic-minded parents will continue attracted to a middle school AAP program that prepares students exceptionally well for high school, fields successful academic extracurricular teams like Science Olympiad and MathCounts, and sends a solid contingent of students to TJ each year (where they flourish, based on first-hand knowledge of multiple LJ AAP alumni at TJ). Time will tell how this all shakes out, of course, but based on the above, I predict that the LJ AAP program will remain strong for many years to come.