FCPS Ready to Screw Poorer/GenEd Kids Again

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Anonymous wrote:The Camelot and Fairhill parents have themselves to blame.

Maybe they don't see it as a negative like you do. Maybe they see it as a POSITIVE -- getting 150 kids out of LJ this year and eventually having 300 less than they have now. Maybe they are fine with the education their kids are receiving (even if other kids are struggling with other challenges -- language, economic background). Maybe they have more faith in their kids' ability and faith in the LJ administration and teachers to keep doing what they've been doing all along.

Exactly! Well said.

Well they got their wish then, didn't they.

Whatever it takes to have less kids at LJ I'm all for.

I think that's what the school board's position was as well. It was unanimous. PP who is still grinding the ax... it's time to move on! The kids at LJ have just as much opportunity to succeed as anyone else... and if you feel there is a gap or unmet need, then do something about it! Encourage the admin to have an anti-bullying program or start up a foodbank program. The plan is set. If you think that these kids (at LJ) need extra supports, advocate for that.

Otherwise, it's time to move along and let the people in the LJ community determine what they need and don't need.

Why should I pay more money for a school going downhill just because some white families wanted to segregate themselves? I was for the integration. It was cheaper for all students, better economically for the county to have neighborhoods that were average and not declining, and better for the disadvantaged students to be around higher performing students. Oakton can only get so much more expensive. It will hurt the county overall, but they can find someone else sympathetic to their new need for their created achievement gap. I am not paying more for their stupidity.

Expect to see a lot of people in Camelot and Fairhill unload their homes this spring. Enough is enough.

[Anonymous]

It made so much sense geographically to redistrict. Thoreau had alot of excess capacity and already drew a portion of Oakton kids who went to Flint Hill ES and the majority of Marshall Rd ES kids. Jackson was incredibly overcrowded. AAP Level IV Center stays at Jackson. If Thoreau's AAP-lite program continues to improve (which based on the rapid rise in TJ admits it seems to be getting stronger) it's only natural that more parents will want to keep their kids in their base MS but I don't think this is the death knell of AAP at Luther. I guess only time will tell...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Camelot and Fairhill parents have themselves to blame.

Maybe they don't see it as a negative like you do. Maybe they see it as a POSITIVE -- getting 150 kids out of LJ this year and eventually having 300 less than they have now. Maybe they are fine with the education their kids are receiving (even if other kids are struggling with other challenges -- language, economic background). Maybe they have more faith in their kids' ability and faith in the LJ administration and teachers to keep doing what they've been doing all along.

Exactly! Well said.

Well they got their wish then, didn't they.

Whatever it takes to have less kids at LJ I'm all for.

I think that's what the school board's position was as well. It was unanimous. PP who is still grinding the ax... it's time to move on! The kids at LJ have just as much opportunity to succeed as anyone else... and if you feel there is a gap or unmet need, then do something about it! Encourage the admin to have an anti-bullying program or start up a foodbank program. The plan is set. If you think that these kids (at LJ) need extra supports, advocate for that.

Otherwise, it's time to move along and let the people in the LJ community determine what they need and don't need.

Why should I pay more money for a school going downhill just because some white families wanted to segregate themselves? I was for the integration. It was cheaper for all students, better economically for the county to have neighborhoods that were average and not declining, and better for the disadvantaged students to be around higher performing students. Oakton can only get so much more expensive. It will hurt the county overall, but they can find someone else sympathetic to their new need for their created achievement gap. I am not paying more for their stupidity.

Expect to see a lot of people in Camelot and Fairhill unload their homes this spring. Enough is enough.

Do you even live in either neighborhood? Are your kids zoned for LJ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Camelot and Fairhill parents have themselves to blame.

Maybe they don't see it as a negative like you do. Maybe they see it as a POSITIVE -- getting 150 kids out of LJ this year and eventually having 300 less than they have now. Maybe they are fine with the education their kids are receiving (even if other kids are struggling with other challenges -- language, economic background). Maybe they have more faith in their kids' ability and faith in the LJ administration and teachers to keep doing what they've been doing all along.

Exactly! Well said.

Well they got their wish then, didn't they.

Whatever it takes to have less kids at LJ I'm all for.

I think that's what the school board's position was as well. It was unanimous. PP who is still grinding the ax... it's time to move on! The kids at LJ have just as much opportunity to succeed as anyone else... and if you feel there is a gap or unmet need, then do something about it! Encourage the admin to have an anti-bullying program or start up a foodbank program. The plan is set. If you think that these kids (at LJ) need extra supports, advocate for that.

Otherwise, it's time to move along and let the people in the LJ community determine what they need and don't need.

Why should I pay more money for a school going downhill just because some white families wanted to segregate themselves? I was for the integration. It was cheaper for all students, better economically for the county to have neighborhoods that were average and not declining, and better for the disadvantaged students to be around higher performing students. Oakton can only get so much more expensive. It will hurt the county overall, but they can find someone else sympathetic to their new need for their created achievement gap. I am not paying more for their stupidity.

Expect to see a lot of people in Camelot and Fairhill unload their homes this spring. Enough is enough.

Dramatic much? People in those zone already bought with the understanding that they were in Falls Church HS zone. If that didn't turn them off, then LJ (with its AAP center -- still functioning) is not going to be a deal-breaker. You are just trying to keep your crusade alive. Newsflash... everyone has moved on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Camelot and Fairhill parents have themselves to blame.

Maybe they don't see it as a negative like you do. Maybe they see it as a POSITIVE -- getting 150 kids out of LJ this year and eventually having 300 less than they have now. Maybe they are fine with the education their kids are receiving (even if other kids are struggling with other challenges -- language, economic background). Maybe they have more faith in their kids' ability and faith in the LJ administration and teachers to keep doing what they've been doing all along.

Exactly! Well said.

Well they got their wish then, didn't they.

Whatever it takes to have less kids at LJ I'm all for.

I think that's what the school board's position was as well. It was unanimous. PP who is still grinding the ax... it's time to move on! The kids at LJ have just as much opportunity to succeed as anyone else... and if you feel there is a gap or unmet need, then do something about it! Encourage the admin to have an anti-bullying program or start up a foodbank program. The plan is set. If you think that these kids (at LJ) need extra supports, advocate for that.

Otherwise, it's time to move along and let the people in the LJ community determine what they need and don't need.

Why should I pay more money for a school going downhill just because some white families wanted to segregate themselves? I was for the integration. It was cheaper for all students, better economically for the county to have neighborhoods that were average and not declining, and better for the disadvantaged students to be around higher performing students. Oakton can only get so much more expensive. It will hurt the county overall, but they can find someone else sympathetic to their new need for their created achievement gap. I am not paying more for their stupidity.

Expect to see a lot of people in Camelot and Fairhill unload their homes this spring. Enough is enough.

Yahoo...bonus if we have even less overcrowding at lj with this result. So glad!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Camelot and Fairhill parents have themselves to blame.

Maybe they don't see it as a negative like you do. Maybe they see it as a POSITIVE -- getting 150 kids out of LJ this year and eventually having 300 less than they have now. Maybe they are fine with the education their kids are receiving (even if other kids are struggling with other challenges -- language, economic background). Maybe they have more faith in their kids' ability and faith in the LJ administration and teachers to keep doing what they've been doing all along.

Exactly! Well said.

Well they got their wish then, didn't they.

Whatever it takes to have less kids at LJ I'm all for.

I think that's what the school board's position was as well. It was unanimous. PP who is still grinding the ax... it's time to move on! The kids at LJ have just as much opportunity to succeed as anyone else... and if you feel there is a gap or unmet need, then do something about it! Encourage the admin to have an anti-bullying program or start up a foodbank program. The plan is set. If you think that these kids (at LJ) need extra supports, advocate for that.

Otherwise, it's time to move along and let the people in the LJ community determine what they need and don't need.

Why should I pay more money for a school going downhill just because some white families wanted to segregate themselves? I was for the integration. It was cheaper for all students, better economically for the county to have neighborhoods that were average and not declining, and better for the disadvantaged students to be around higher performing students. Oakton can only get so much more expensive. It will hurt the county overall, but they can find someone else sympathetic to their new need for their created achievement gap. I am not paying more for their stupidity.

Expect to see a lot of people in Camelot and Fairhill unload their homes this spring. Enough is enough.

Dramatic much? People in those zone already bought with the understanding that they were in Falls Church HS zone. If that didn't turn them off, then LJ (with its AAP center -- still functioning) is not going to be a deal-breaker. You are just trying to keep your crusade alive. Newsflash... everyone has moved on.

We would have given FCHS a try since honors and AP classes are open admission. But we will not send our kids to Jackson now. We will find something in Loudoun this summer.

[Anonymous]

Honors classes at Jackson are "open admission" just like they are at FCHS. Have fun in Loudoun!

[Anonymous]

Just buy in Oakton High School district. I’ll be listing my home very soon. It’s a beautiful TH, and now with Tnoresu as our MS it will probably go quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Camelot and Fairhill parents have themselves to blame.

Maybe they don't see it as a negative like you do. Maybe they see it as a POSITIVE -- getting 150 kids out of LJ this year and eventually having 300 less than they have now. Maybe they are fine with the education their kids are receiving (even if other kids are struggling with other challenges -- language, economic background). Maybe they have more faith in their kids' ability and faith in the LJ administration and teachers to keep doing what they've been doing all along.

Exactly! Well said.

Well they got their wish then, didn't they.

Whatever it takes to have less kids at LJ I'm all for.

I think that's what the school board's position was as well. It was unanimous. PP who is still grinding the ax... it's time to move on! The kids at LJ have just as much opportunity to succeed as anyone else... and if you feel there is a gap or unmet need, then do something about it! Encourage the admin to have an anti-bullying program or start up a foodbank program. The plan is set. If you think that these kids (at LJ) need extra supports, advocate for that.

Otherwise, it's time to move along and let the people in the LJ community determine what they need and don't need.

Why should I pay more money for a school going downhill just because some white families wanted to segregate themselves? I was for the integration. It was cheaper for all students, better economically for the county to have neighborhoods that were average and not declining, and better for the disadvantaged students to be around higher performing students. Oakton can only get so much more expensive. It will hurt the county overall, but they can find someone else sympathetic to their new need for their created achievement gap. I am not paying more for their stupidity.

Expect to see a lot of people in Camelot and Fairhill unload their homes this spring. Enough is enough.

Dramatic much? People in those zone already bought with the understanding that they were in Falls Church HS zone. If that didn't turn them off, then LJ (with its AAP center -- still functioning) is not going to be a deal-breaker. You are just trying to keep your crusade alive. Newsflash... everyone has moved on.

We would have given FCHS a try since honors and AP classes are open admission. But we will not send our kids to Jackson now. We will find something in Loudoun this summer.

How many less LJ kids will this provide? (Do you have 2 kids)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It made so much sense geographically to redistrict. Thoreau had alot of excess capacity and already drew a portion of Oakton kids who went to Flint Hill ES and the majority of Marshall Rd ES kids. Jackson was incredibly overcrowded. AAP Level IV Center stays at Jackson. If Thoreau's AAP-lite program continues to improve (which based on the rapid rise in TJ admits it seems to be getting stronger) it's only natural that more parents will want to keep their kids in their base MS but I don't think this is the death knell of AAP at Luther. I guess only time will tell...

I don’t think the “quality” of an AAP program determines TJ admits. I think it’s just based on the quality of kids that end up going to a particular school. I’m frankly surprised people think one seventh grade year can influence TJ admission chances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Enough with this topic already! Stop regurgitating and pretending!

This is not even an AAP issue. If anything it is a political issue. If you want to solve something stop hiding under anonymity and do something tangible.

s/he posted anonymously....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It made so much sense geographically to redistrict. Thoreau had alot of excess capacity and already drew a portion of Oakton kids who went to Flint Hill ES and the majority of Marshall Rd ES kids. Jackson was incredibly overcrowded. AAP Level IV Center stays at Jackson. If Thoreau's AAP-lite program continues to improve (which based on the rapid rise in TJ admits it seems to be getting stronger) it's only natural that more parents will want to keep their kids in their base MS but I don't think this is the death knell of AAP at Luther. I guess only time will tell...

Based on what I'm hearing pretty much the entire AAP classes at these schools is now headed to TMS. That's 5 full classes (about 150 kids). Apparently this number was not factored into TMS numbers on increase in student volume (can someone confirm this?). That would probably result in TMS being overcrowded (over 100% capacity).

[Anonymous]

Not true. All Gen Ed kids are headed to TMS! Not AAP kids - most will go to LJ AAP center

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not true. All Gen Ed kids are headed to TMS! Not AAP kids - most will go to LJ AAP center

This was the prevailing assumption. All but 2 of the kids in my kids AAP section are headed to TMS. Parents at other affected schools think at least 50-75% of their class is going to TMS. TMS may well become a center in a couple of years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It made so much sense geographically to redistrict. Thoreau had alot of excess capacity and already drew a portion of Oakton kids who went to Flint Hill ES and the majority of Marshall Rd ES kids. Jackson was incredibly overcrowded. AAP Level IV Center stays at Jackson. If Thoreau's AAP-lite program continues to improve (which based on the rapid rise in TJ admits it seems to be getting stronger) it's only natural that more parents will want to keep their kids in their base MS but I don't think this is the death knell of AAP at Luther. I guess only time will tell...

Based on what I'm hearing pretty much the entire AAP classes at these schools is now headed to TMS. That's 5 full classes (about 150 kids). Apparently this number was not factored into TMS numbers on increase in student volume (can someone confirm this?). That would probably result in TMS being overcrowded (over 100% capacity).

Well, I actually have a kid in one of the rezoned schools, in the AAP part, and I'm hearing a lot of people are going to LJ. My kid isn't. But, s/he says that it sounds like most kids are still going to LJ (especially if they had an older sibling who went there -- families tend to stay with what they know).

I really don't know how it is going to shake out. I just had the complete opposite impression than you.... but I hope you are right b/c I'd like my kid to have some kids s/he knows at TMS.