All clothing is ugly these days

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I FINALLY found the Frye Dorado boots I wanted in excellent condition no less! In the right color! WHOO HOO!! This might not be such a fashion-starved season for me after all.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a 24 year old from NYC & LA and I totally disagree with the OP! #TeamFashion

You mean team fast fashion. There's a difference. And, lol, at Anne Taylor being held up as an example of fashion. Please.

Ann*

Who held it up as one? The fraus?

You do know that "frau" simply means woman, right? It's not the cutting insult that you seem to believe it to be. Unless you're a misogynist.

+1. This PP needs to drop the frau shit. It got old like 8 pages ago.

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Satin pajama pants:

https://www.jcrew.com/p/G5178

Boyfriend chino pants in 'polka dot' - so we can all look like the 'IT clown'

https://www.jcrew.com/p/G7929

Chino pants with dots and patches:

https://www.jcrew.com/p/womens_category/pants2/relaxedcrop/embroidered-boyfriend-chino-pant-with-patches/G7693

And these pants are so tight in the crotch you can see 100% of my labia

https://www.jcrew.com/p/H0440

https://www.jcrew.com/p/H0440

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Anonymous wrote:Also agree it's all awful.

Anyone know what women in Europe are wearing? I can't imagine thei buying this shit.

women in Europe don't wear this stuff. although they tend to buy more expensive things and then wear them over and over, which is hard to get away with here. i've seen women with basically 5 nice outfits they wear to work every single week.

btw - you can get pants lined by a tailor for about $30-40. it's pains me to pay extra for something that should have come with the pants in the first place but I've started to do it for work pants.

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What this is, is a fashion forum in a city where many women work and need appropriate clothing. Clearly there is pent up demand for some decent and higher quality work clothing!

I understand that and think that is a COMPLETELY legitimate concern, also the quality issue. But to say "all fashion is ugly" is what I take issue with. There's some truly amazing stuff out today and it does seem to me an issue of many DCUMers being out of the fashion world and/or at a different time in their life and not understanding what's going on (which can happen to everyone). But just because you don't understand it or it doesn't perfectly cater to you doesn't mean you can just write it all off. I think a post about "i can't find work or conservative clothes" would go over much better

NP. Immediate PP, can you please post links to some of the "truly amazing" fashion out there today? Because most of us just don't see it, and it would be helpful for you to lead us to what we're missing.

Personally, I do think almost everything out now is not flattering to the vast majority of real people. Skin tight leggings or skinny, low rise styles aren't flattering on a lot of women. They also aren't appropriate for many offices. Many of us would like, and are willing to spend money on, clothes that make us look and feel professional and put together, even if that means that the clothes are boring. I, for one, miss the days of lightweight, good quality sweaters (silk, cotton, merino, whatever) that don't pill the second time you put them on, that are thick enough to wear alone but thin enough to wear under a suit jacket.

And forget about it if you're short or not rail thin -- your options are even even more limited. I love that the "short" BR pants have a 31" inseam -- I would need to have four or five inches hacked off -- even my husband would have to have them hemmed.

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NP. PP who thinks we are all so wrong in our assessment of available styles, can you please post links to some of the "truly amazing" fashion out there today? Because most of us just don't see it, and it would be helpful for you to lead us to what we're missing.

Personally, I do think almost everything out now is not flattering to the vast majority of real people. Skin tight leggings or skinny, low rise styles aren't flattering on a lot of women. They also aren't appropriate for many offices. Many of us would like, and are willing to spend money on, clothes that make us look and feel professional and put together, even if that means that the clothes are boring. I, for one, miss the days of lightweight, good quality sweaters (silk, cotton, merino, whatever) that don't pill the second time you put them on, that are thick enough to wear alone but thin enough to wear under a suit jacket.

And forget about it if you're short or not rail thin -- your options are even even more limited. I love that the "short" BR pants have a 31" inseam -- I would need to have four or five inches hacked off -- even my husband would have to have them hemmed

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, let's look at the pricier stuff. Here's what Rebecca Taylor is offering in dresses this season:

http://www.rebeccataylor.com/clothing/categories/dresses-and-jumpsuits/

Anything here anyone's wearing to the office?

this is pretty. http://www.rebeccataylor.com/lyra-floral-hammered-silk-dress/617985D592.html?dwvar_617985D592_color=BLKCOM&cgid=dresses-and-jumpsuits#start=1

This? http://www.rebeccataylor.com/capucine-floral-hammered-silk-shirtdress/517965D471.html?dwvar_517965D471_color=BLKCOM&cgid=dresses-and-jumpsuits#start=1

Although it doesn't look very flattering.

this? http://www.rebeccataylor.com/petal-sleeve-silk-and-tweed-dress/517633D559.html?dwvar_517633D559_color=BLKCOM&cgid=dresses-and-jumpsuits#start=1

Maybe this, if it were about 4 inches longer. http://www.rebeccataylor.com/cap-sleeve-stretch-texture-dress/517345D568.html?dwvar_517345D568_color=BLACK&cgid=dresses-and-jumpsuits#start=1

I don't see anything else appropriate for the office.

All of this is awful. And ugly. How is this "better?" What is "fashionable" about these dresses?

[Anonymous]

Fashion jumped the shark a long time ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Also agree it's all awful.

Anyone know what women in Europe are wearing? I can't imagine thei buying this shit.

women in Europe don't wear this stuff. although they tend to buy more expensive things and then wear them over and over, which is hard to get away with here. i've seen women with basically 5 nice outfits they wear to work every single week.

btw - you can get pants lined by a tailor for about $30-40. it's pains me to pay extra for something that should have come with the pants in the first place but I've started to do it for work pants.

Oh bullshit. I used to live in the UK. There is PLENTY of fast fashion there. Unless you don't consider the UK to be Europe.

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NP. PP who thinks we are all so wrong in our assessment of available styles, can you please post links to some of the "truly amazing" fashion out there today? Because most of us just don't see it, and it would be helpful for you to lead us to what we're missing.

Personally, I do think almost everything out now is not flattering to the vast majority of real people. Skin tight leggings or skinny, low rise styles aren't flattering on a lot of women. They also aren't appropriate for many offices. Many of us would like, and are willing to spend money on, clothes that make us look and feel professional and put together, even if that means that the clothes are boring. I, for one, miss the days of lightweight, good quality sweaters (silk, cotton, merino, whatever) that don't pill the second time you put them on, that are thick enough to wear alone but thin enough to wear under a suit jacket.

And forget about it if you're short or not rail thin -- your options are even even more limited. I love that the "short" BR pants have a 31" inseam -- I would need to have four or five inches hacked off -- even my husband would have to have them hemmed

Low rise has been out of style for at least a few years. Mom jeans with a high rise - or more wearable mid rise - are what you will see more of.

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Anonymous wrote:Also agree it's all awful.

Anyone know what women in Europe are wearing? I can't imagine thei buying this shit.

women in Europe don't wear this stuff. although they tend to buy more expensive things and then wear them over and over, which is hard to get away with here. i've seen women with basically 5 nice outfits they wear to work every single week.

btw - you can get pants lined by a tailor for about $30-40. it's pains me to pay extra for something that should have come with the pants in the first place but I've started to do it for work pants.

Oh bullshit. I used to live in the UK. There is PLENTY of fast fashion there. Unless you don't consider the UK to be Europe.

The UK just voted not to be part of Europe. I think we can stop considering it Europe.

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Anonymous wrote:Also agree it's all awful.

Anyone know what women in Europe are wearing? I can't imagine thei buying this shit.

women in Europe don't wear this stuff. although they tend to buy more expensive things and then wear them over and over, which is hard to get away with here. i've seen women with basically 5 nice outfits they wear to work every single week.

btw - you can get pants lined by a tailor for about $30-40. it's pains me to pay extra for something that should have come with the pants in the first place but I've started to do it for work pants.

Oh bullshit. I used to live in the UK. There is PLENTY of fast fashion there. Unless you don't consider the UK to be Europe.

The UK just voted not to be part of Europe. I think we can stop considering it Europe.

I was thinking of France and Italy. I don't have experience with the U.K.

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Fast fashion is mass produced and I find it ugly as well. I rarely find clothes that I really love anymore.

[Anonymous]

I'm 33, from London and now living in DC. I completely agree with OP and while I used to shop at places like J Crew, I don't even go in there anymore (I occasionally browse the website and then click away in horror). I still buy a lot of European brands, and these are some of the things I have/would buy:

From Me+Em - a really great workwear and casual brand: I love their wide-leg trousers and jersey tops. They also sometimes have great dresses, though not right now. Like these:

https://www.meandem.com/frill-neck-swing-top
https://www.meandem.com/button-hem-man-pant


The Fold - expensive but great work dresses if you work in a corporate environment like I do:

For example, I've had this for a few years - https://thefoldlondon.com/product/camelot-dress-navy/


Whistles - they do have some strange unwearable things but usually some great, wearable things buried somewhere:

http://www.whistles.com/women/clothing/dresses/textured-izzey-bodycon-26583.html?dwvar_textured-izzey-bodycon-26583_color=Fig#sz=84&start=1

http://www.whistles.com/women/clothing/dresses/autumn-leaf-silk-bodycon-26065.html?dwvar_autumn-leaf-silk-bodycon-26065_color=Green%2FMulti#sz=84&start=1

http://www.whistles.com/women/clothing/dresses/drew-pinstripe-jersey-dress-26488.html?dwvar_drew-pinstripe-jersey-dress-26488_color=Navy#sz=84&start=1

http://www.whistles.com/women/clothing/skirts/double-buckle-velvet-skirt-26155.html?dwvar_double-buckle-velvet-skirt-26155_color=Black#start=1



Cos - simple Scandi style, sometimes looks strange on the website but good in person (they are now in Georgetown)

https://www.cosstores.com/us/Women/Dresses/Jersey_dress_with_contrast_detail/46881-29775884.1#c-15133331

https://www.cosstores.com/us/Women/Dresses/Woven_waterfall_dress/46881-27924033.1#c-15133331


& Other Stories - also now in Georgetown. I think the aesthetic is great though the fit is hit and miss

http://www.stories.com/us/Ready-to-wear/All_ready-to-wear/Puff_Sleeve_Cotton_Shirt/590771-0515441003.2

http://www.stories.com/us/Ready-to-wear/Dresses/Mini_Car_Print_Dress/582938-0545745001.2


Zara - you have to sift through but there are some great pieces

https://www.zara.com/us/en/woman/new-in/check-sweater-c840002p5058011.html

https://www.zara.com/us/en/trf/jeans/view-all/high-waist-5-pocket-velvet-jeggings-c846564p4953036.html

https://www.zara.com/us/en/trf/dresses/view-all/floral-print-midi-dress-c965503p4969025.html


I also sometimes like Baukjen - I just had a look and they have a 77% sample sale today so worth having a look if you're not familiar with them; very thick stretchy jersey pieces are good, like this, possibly:

https://www.baukjen.com/us/baukjen-sale/hinton-dress_1-caviar-black.htm#fullscreen-image-0

https://www.baukjen.com/us/baukjen-sale/hinton-dress_1-caviar-black.htm#fullscreen-image-0

https://www.baukjen.com/us/baukjen-sale/dresses-sale/bonner-a-line-dress-caviar-black.htm

https://www.baukjen.com/us/baukjen-sale/dresses-sale/bernwood-a-line-dress-sapphire-blue.htm#fullscreen-image-0

https://www.baukjen.com/us/baukjen-sale/sale-knitwear/nina-v-neck-jumper-navy-and-white.htm


Their ruched jersey is really good (ignore the cold shoulder offenders!)


LK Bennett has very good workwear:

https://www.lkbennett.com/product/CDAMANAPOLYESTERMIXBlueSloane%20Blue~Amana-Dress-Sloane%20Blue

https://www.lkbennett.com/product/CDANGELAPOLYESTERMIXBlueImperial%20Blue~Angela-Black-Dress-Imperial%20Blue

https://www.lkbennett.com/product/CDCASEYVISCOSEMIXBlueSloane%20Blue~Casey-Dress-Sloane%20Blue


A few other brands I sometimes like - Rouje, Club Monaco, Jigsaw, Hobbs, Topshop

http://www.rouje.com/e-shop/robes/robe-brooke-en-crepe-noir.html

http://www.clubmonaco.com/product/index.jsp?productId=131125596

http://www.jigsaw-online.com/product/falling-freesia-jersey-dress/J34817_BK000

https://www.hobbs.co.uk/product/display?productID=0217-9053-9021L01&productvarid=0217-9053-9021L01-NAVY-MULTI-12&refpage=dresses

http://us.topshop.com/en/tsus/product/silk-poppy-blouse-6902120?bi=0&ps=20&Ntt=silk



That was fun! Now I should probably get back to work...

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Anonymous wrote:I am a 24 year old from NYC & LA and I totally disagree with the OP! #TeamFashion

You mean team fast fashion. There's a difference. And, lol, at Anne Taylor being held up as an example of fashion. Please.

Ann*

Who held it up as one? The fraus?

You do know that "frau" simply means woman, right? It's not the cutting insult that you seem to believe it to be. Unless you're a misogynist.

+1. This PP needs to drop the frau shit. It got old like 8 pages ago.

That's not what it means, but whatever you fraus want to tell yourselves