All clothing is ugly these days

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Some British brands have decent cloth, but pricey. I wait for sales. Reiss, Hobbs, Pure, can't remember other names.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm 33, from London and now living in DC. I completely agree with OP and while I used to shop at places like J Crew, I don't even go in there anymore (I occasionally browse the website and then click away in horror). I still buy a lot of European brands, and these are some of the things I have/would buy:

From Me+Em - a really great workwear and casual brand: I love their wide-leg trousers and jersey tops. They also sometimes have great dresses, though not right now. Like these:

https://www.meandem.com/frill-neck-swing-top
https://www.meandem.com/button-hem-man-pant


The Fold - expensive but great work dresses if you work in a corporate environment like I do:

For example, I've had this for a few years - https://thefoldlondon.com/product/camelot-dress-navy/


Whistles - they do have some strange unwearable things but usually some great, wearable things buried somewhere:

http://www.whistles.com/women/clothing/dresses/textured-izzey-bodycon-26583.html?dwvar_textured-izzey-bodycon-26583_color=Fig#sz=84&start=1

http://www.whistles.com/women/clothing/dresses/autumn-leaf-silk-bodycon-26065.html?dwvar_autumn-leaf-silk-bodycon-26065_color=Green%2FMulti#sz=84&start=1

http://www.whistles.com/women/clothing/dresses/drew-pinstripe-jersey-dress-26488.html?dwvar_drew-pinstripe-jersey-dress-26488_color=Navy#sz=84&start=1

http://www.whistles.com/women/clothing/skirts/double-buckle-velvet-skirt-26155.html?dwvar_double-buckle-velvet-skirt-26155_color=Black#start=1



Cos - simple Scandi style, sometimes looks strange on the website but good in person (they are now in Georgetown)

https://www.cosstores.com/us/Women/Dresses/Jersey_dress_with_contrast_detail/46881-29775884.1#c-15133331

https://www.cosstores.com/us/Women/Dresses/Woven_waterfall_dress/46881-27924033.1#c-15133331


& Other Stories - also now in Georgetown. I think the aesthetic is great though the fit is hit and miss

http://www.stories.com/us/Ready-to-wear/All_ready-to-wear/Puff_Sleeve_Cotton_Shirt/590771-0515441003.2

http://www.stories.com/us/Ready-to-wear/Dresses/Mini_Car_Print_Dress/582938-0545745001.2


Zara - you have to sift through but there are some great pieces

https://www.zara.com/us/en/woman/new-in/check-sweater-c840002p5058011.html

https://www.zara.com/us/en/trf/jeans/view-all/high-waist-5-pocket-velvet-jeggings-c846564p4953036.html

https://www.zara.com/us/en/trf/dresses/view-all/floral-print-midi-dress-c965503p4969025.html


I also sometimes like Baukjen - I just had a look and they have a 77% sample sale today so worth having a look if you're not familiar with them; very thick stretchy jersey pieces are good, like this, possibly:

https://www.baukjen.com/us/baukjen-sale/hinton-dress_1-caviar-black.htm#fullscreen-image-0

https://www.baukjen.com/us/baukjen-sale/hinton-dress_1-caviar-black.htm#fullscreen-image-0

https://www.baukjen.com/us/baukjen-sale/dresses-sale/bonner-a-line-dress-caviar-black.htm

https://www.baukjen.com/us/baukjen-sale/dresses-sale/bernwood-a-line-dress-sapphire-blue.htm#fullscreen-image-0

https://www.baukjen.com/us/baukjen-sale/sale-knitwear/nina-v-neck-jumper-navy-and-white.htm


Their ruched jersey is really good (ignore the cold shoulder offenders!)


LK Bennett has very good workwear:

https://www.lkbennett.com/product/CDAMANAPOLYESTERMIXBlueSloane%20Blue~Amana-Dress-Sloane%20Blue

https://www.lkbennett.com/product/CDANGELAPOLYESTERMIXBlueImperial%20Blue~Angela-Black-Dress-Imperial%20Blue

https://www.lkbennett.com/product/CDCASEYVISCOSEMIXBlueSloane%20Blue~Casey-Dress-Sloane%20Blue


A few other brands I sometimes like - Rouje, Club Monaco, Jigsaw, Hobbs, Topshop

http://www.rouje.com/e-shop/robes/robe-brooke-en-crepe-noir.html

http://www.clubmonaco.com/product/index.jsp?productId=131125596

http://www.jigsaw-online.com/product/falling-freesia-jersey-dress/J34817_BK000

https://www.hobbs.co.uk/product/display?productID=0217-9053-9021L01&productvarid=0217-9053-9021L01-NAVY-MULTI-12&refpage=dresses

http://us.topshop.com/en/tsus/product/silk-poppy-blouse-6902120?bi=0&ps=20&Ntt=silk



That was fun! Now I should probably get back to work...

Thanks for the Baukjen recommendation!

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Anonymous wrote:I am a 24 year old from NYC & LA and I totally disagree with the OP! #TeamFashion

You mean team fast fashion. There's a difference. And, lol, at Anne Taylor being held up as an example of fashion. Please.

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Who held it up as one? The fraus?

You do know that "frau" simply means woman, right? It's not the cutting insult that you seem to believe it to be. Unless you're a misogynist.

+1. This PP needs to drop the frau shit. It got old like 8 pages ago.

That's not what it means, but whatever you fraus want to tell yourselves

Yes, frau means woman in German. But whatever you want to tell yourself. Now go away!

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Anonymous wrote:Ladies, forgive me: a rant. Women's clothing is just objectively ugly these days. And it's a universal trend, from department stores to discount stores to outlets to boutiques to chains. All women's clothing, for all sizes and shapes and price points, is hideously ugly.

Bizarro Prints/Colors

You know how the color palette of the 70s was earth tones and off-beat shades like pumpkin and avacado? You know how the color palette of the 80s was neons and bright jewel tones? See how those are two completely different color palettes? Well, put them together in a blender, and that is what is going on right now. Same with patterns. Forget things that make sense, like polka dots or houndstooth or pretty florals. Everything now is just...random.

At one point, I was considering a shirt that was a lovely material/weight, which had a really nice cut/fit. I loved it. Except it was a HIDEOUS navy-on-blue print of morning glories or some other flower...like, close-up of the interior of these flowers. I stood there, staring at it. I closed my eyes and summoned the spirit of Georgia O'Keefe. Even she agreed: "This shirt looks like vaginas, and you shouldn't buy it."

Like, who designed a vagina shirt? And then who approved that design? How do you tell your fabric vendor that you'd like 5,300 yards of vagina print in a merino wool with a hint of stretch? What does that conversation look like?

Medieval Times

Let's get into the "cold-shoulder" trend. OK, fine, some people really love to show off their shoulders in a long-sleeve shirt. Note I'm not talking about off-the shoulder. No, we're talking even turtlenecks that show off just the top patch of shoulder for NO REASON. Forget the optical confusion of this look, why would you want your shoulders to be cold? If it is cold enough for a TURTLENECK, why would you expose your shoulders? NO SENSE.

I saw a thick, heavy sleeveless funnel neck sweater that REACHED THE MID-THIGH. If it is cold enough to wear a sweater that comes to your thighs, why would your arms be hanging out. I don't understand!

So that's all bad enough, but now this trend has extended to inexplicably slashed sleeves and Tudor-esque hanging sleeves--on corporate-wear. If you want to look like that Shakespeare-obsessed teenage girl from "10 Things I Hate About You" as a grown-ass woman, that's a look, at least. That's fine, I GUESS. BUT, it appears that the new fashion is to add these Ye Olde Touches to **work attire,** as in a fitted sheath dress that looks like something Joan from "Mad Men" would wear, except the sleeves are all slashed Elizabethan-style. Just...what?

Because--as we know from reading too many Philippa Gregory novels--the function of slashed sleeves was to show the expensive undershirts, and the function of long hanging sleeves was to hide Anne Boleyn's rumored sixth finger. None of this functionality is needed at a board meeting on a Tuesday or a lobbyist's office on a Wednesday. There IS no intersection of Wall Street and Whitehall Palace. I am so mad.

Random Shit

There were so many times, at so many stores where I reached for what I thought was a BASIC, only to find that it had some random shitty detail. Like, not a blouse with pretty jeweled buttons, or a pair of pants with a ribbon sash or anything nice like that. No, I'm talking about a basic long-sleeved button-down with...a sequined pineapple on the pocket. A pair of shoes that had no fewer than seven buckles across the top...and no, they weren't boots, they were flats.

I just don't understand why pants have to have umbrellas on them, you know? I feel like clothing manufacturers got together in 2008 and just decided they were done producing clothing that made sense.

Nobody Wants Middle-Aged Money

I wandered into J Crew, and clearly I am too old. I tiptoed into Talbots, and was confronted by a pair of stretch pants with an olive/martini glass print, so I am clearly too young. Why does no one want to cater to me, a boring, middle-aged mom with a job who just doesn't want to wear olives or pineapples? I'm too chubby for cropped tops, plus also, I can't wear crop tops to work OR to the park with my kids. On the other side of the coin, I just kind of feel like stirrup pants would make me tumble into menopause at an accelerated pace. Why does no one want to make some basic clothing and take my money?

I want my shoulders to be warm, and not to wear a vagina shirt. Is that too much to ask?

I could go on, but I will stop. Please tell me I am not the only one in this group with the worst wardrobe I have ever had, including when I was 6 and owned a terry-cloth romper that made me look like a strawberry, or when I was 19 and had at least three items in my closet that were purchased at Charlotte Russe.

Thank you for your consideration.

OP: I love you. I feel you. I hear you.

Wait. Am I you?

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I hardly buy anything anymore. When I have luck it is generally at Talbot's or WHBM. I can go to Macy's or Dillard's and find Calvin Klein work sheaths that are okay.

I am literally now that lady who has four pairs of the same pants in every color and dresses in all solid colors. I just "mix and match" my uniform b/c everything is made for millennial hippies apparently.

Sigh. Being 40 with a management job and kids not to embarrass sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:All of these apparently young (?) women posting about style and the "dcum fraus" sound ignorant. Trendy, cheap clothes do not look good and they don't last. I'm 27, btw.

NP. I am young at heart (47). If you spent enough time here and saw the shoes and dresses posted along with the insistence on pantyhose you would get why people are calling these women fraus.

There is nothing wrong with this top posted earlier and it does not skew 14 yo.

https://www.anntaylor.com/dotted-ruffle-tie-neck-blouse-/440701?skuId=23737419&defaultColor=2222&colorExplode=false&catid=cata000010

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If you don't get it, you don't get it. And you never will.

Don't get what? Don't get the appeal of busy, ruffled, cheaply made and over priced trendy shirts?

Fashion.

Btw, it's ruffled shirts now, in 3 years when the styles have completely shifted, you will find another thing to complain about. It's what out of touch people do and have done since the beginning of the modern era. Always complaining about what the "kids are wearing"

Okay, but I'm young, most likely younger than you, and I know a lot about fashion. Anne Taylor isn't it.

I doubt all of your first sentence. And no one thinks it is except for the fraus on here, but gold star to you for at least knowing that basic tidbit about fashion.

I'm 27 and worked in visual merchandising (designing store windows) for a major upscale department store for a few years after college before grad school. Are you younger than me and do you have more experience than I do?

Yes to both! And a major department store (interesting you didn't say which) is hardly the cutting edge of style, to put it nicely. Most major department stores cater to middle America and are a dying breed. Perhaps that's why you don't get what's happening in fashion today? How young to be that out of it.

Girlfriend, you will be going nowhere fast on the job front if you are this big of a bitch in real life. But keep it up, sassy! Time will march over your smug little face too.

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Anonymous wrote:I lament every time a clothing item I own has to be retired because I know I can't replace it with anything decent.
-40 year old.

I have a 13-year-old pair of BR pants. They are awesome--fully lined, well-constructed, and a classic cut. They are also my motivation not to gain weight, because I cannot replace them.

I literally cried after I had my first child and outgrew all of my early 2000's BR. I had suits, pants, beautiful skirts - all 100% wool, lined and great quality. Their quality blows now for the price.

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Anonymous wrote:They are not objectively ugly. There's a lot of wonderful fashion, exciting stuff, out here nowadays.

If you don't get it, your age might be sneaking up on you. As they say, the surest sign that you're older is that the music all becomes bad on the radio!

Objectively ugly:

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Self-Portrait-Off-the-Shoulder-Check-Wool-Frill-Top-Tops/prod203440079_cat42960827__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.jsp%253FitemId%253Dcat42960827%2526pageSize%253D29%2526No%253D0%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod203440079&xbcpath=cat42960827%2Ccat17740747%2Ccat000001%2Ccat000000&cmCat=product

Objectively ugly:

https://www.anntaylor.com/lacy-fringe-dress/447581?skuId=23935204&defaultColor=5223&colorExplode=true&catid=cata000012

Objectively ugly:

http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=1070672&pcid=5037&vid=1&pid=797135002

Objectively ugly:

http://www.bodenusa.com/en-us/womens-tops-t-shirts/long-sleeved-tops/j0047-blk/womens-black-bud-hotchpotch-chepstow-jersey-top

But hey, go ahead and wear a sparkly pineapple button down.

Some of these are perfectly fine.

But even if they weren't- you're cherry picking clothing pieces. I guarantee you I could pick several shirts and outfits from the 60, 70s, 80s, 90s, aughts, etc that would be butt ugly. It would be absurd to try to claim that all fashion from those eras is objectively ugly because there are a few pieces I don't like.

Get a grip.

Where do you shop? I'm serious.

Why would I even tell you? You obviously shop from these places since you had all these things pulled up.

How old are you?

I'm the poster who posted all the links, and I'm not the OP. I'm also not the person who asked you where you shopped.

I think it's hilarious that you're being so grumpy, thinking you're yelling at one person, when it is actually at least three people.

I guess you don't understand how message boards work. Normally a new person would identify themselves as NP.

Yelling? My my, someone's feeling hyperbolic today...

New poster here. You do seem really grumpy. Maybe go have a drink, or just go to bed. You'll feel better! Are you a junior Ann Taylor deisgner or something? If so, do better. Clothing really is ugly lately.

Bwahahahaha. The matrons of DCUM giving their expert fashion advice yet again. I think you sound grumpy- and also in denial about the state of fashion today. Perhaps a dawning realization that your pantsuits aren't exactly the current look. Real downer, that.

NP here. I'm in merchandizing, and I'm in my early 30s. Degree from FIT. So I'm not a pantsuit apologizer, but even I will say that the state of retail and U.S. fashion is absolutely grim. Fabrics and construction are terrible.

The problem with design is one of cultural influence, in my opinion. The world used to be smaller; there used to be a few icons of any time--Jackie O, Lee Radziwill, CZ Guest, Babe Paley in the 60s, for example. Now with the internet, there are thousands of icons representing a multitude of cultures and styles. Used to be there were a few networks with a few TV shows, and a limited run of movies at any one time. Now, there are thousands of big and small screen influencers out there. OP actually made a good point with the Medieval/Tudors sleeves bit...don't think for a second that Game of Thrones hasn't influenced current looks. The problem is, that's just one program that's influencing the designers--it really is all "in a blender" as the original post said.

Okay, so it sounds like you prefer a much more retro style. And a much more conservative one, if the fashion icons you checked are any indication. There's a lot more diversity in style today- but for many people that's a great thing. Who cares if GOT has influenced current looks? TV shows have influenced style since the dawn of television- Miami Vice, anyone? You sound honestly quite confused for a fashion major, not to be aware of this. And to honestly believe that the fact that we have MORE choice, more options in what we wear is a bad thing. You want people to have more conformity in style? It honestly sounds like you have quite a boring sense of style- not to be rude but it's true- and simply cannot understand the plethora and ever changing trends that make up today's fashion landscape.

No, sorry, you missed the point. I wasn't saying CZ/Babe Paley should be anyone's icons. I'm saying they were all similar in the 60s, and at that time, they were IT. Now, you can have diverse influencers all at once, which is great, but designers need to pick a lane, and not try to emulate all those influencers at once. You can't be all things to all people. So decide what your niche is, and stick to it (I'm talking to designers here, not consumers). At least be consistent within one collection/season.

That's why J Crew and so many other mass retailers have disappointed their customers in recent years--they have tried to be all things to all customers, and they have failed.

I don't think designers do need to pick a lane. First of all, plenty of designers (most) do have a lane- even if you think they've tried to diversify said lane, they still have one. No one could argue that J. Crew didn't do the "quirky/preppy" look consistently over the past several years, even if that ultimately, for a variety of reasons, proved to be unsuccessful. And actually, companies that specialize in diversity and following trends often do incredibly well, much better than ones that keep a narrow focus. I find it hard to believe that anyone would argue for less diversity within the market rather than more.

NP.

Funny how you're the only poster who thinks designers and retailers have been getting it right these days. If you think duster-length cardigans with the shoulders cut out and pumpkin-print leggings are where it's at, go for it, I guess.

LOL.

Not really. If this were a fashion forum, or hell- even a forum known for having a small modicum of fashion knowledge, it might be notable. But sadly the opposite is true, so if anything, being on the opposite side of the majority here is pretty much confirmation that you're on the right track. As much as that may rile the frumps that make this board so distinctive.

LOL.

What this is, is a fashion forum in a city where many women work and need appropriate clothing. Clearly there is pent up demand for some decent and higher quality work clothing!

I understand that and think that is a COMPLETELY legitimate concern, also the quality issue. But to say "all fashion is ugly" is what I take issue with. There's some truly amazing stuff out today and it does seem to me an issue of many DCUMers being out of the fashion world and/or at a different time in their life and not understanding what's going on (which can happen to everyone). But just because you don't understand it or it doesn't perfectly cater to you doesn't mean you can just write it all off. I think a post about "i can't find work or conservative clothes" would go over much better

Hey Captain Literal, it's been explained A MILLION TIMES what OP meant, and yet you are still arguing? Get a life and move on!!

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Anonymous wrote:I lament every time a clothing item I own has to be retired because I know I can't replace it with anything decent.
-40 year old.

I have a 13-year-old pair of BR pants. They are awesome--fully lined, well-constructed, and a classic cut. They are also my motivation not to gain weight, because I cannot replace them.

I literally cried after I had my first child and outgrew all of my early 2000's BR. I had suits, pants, beautiful skirts - all 100% wool, lined and great quality. Their quality blows now for the price.

I pulled out some of my pantsuits from the early 2000s. Liz Claiborne, Jones New York, Ann Taylor, 100% wool, fully lined, still look great. Thankfully they were a little big in the waist back then. I also have an AT Loft pant suit, 50% wool, fully lined. Does Loft even make suits anymore?

I also have a silk jacket from Jones that is absolutely beautiful--double-breasted, fully lined, fits beautifully through the shoulders, not a pull or a pucker anywhere. Gorgeous fabric. It had matching pants but, alas, they are nowhere to be found.

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Anonymous wrote:They are not objectively ugly. There's a lot of wonderful fashion, exciting stuff, out here nowadays.

If you don't get it, your age might be sneaking up on you. As they say, the surest sign that you're older is that the music all becomes bad on the radio!

Objectively ugly:

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/Self-Portrait-Off-the-Shoulder-Check-Wool-Frill-Top-Tops/prod203440079_cat42960827__/p.prod?icid=&searchType=EndecaDrivenCat&rte=%252Fcategory.jsp%253FitemId%253Dcat42960827%2526pageSize%253D29%2526No%253D0%2526refinements%253D&eItemId=prod203440079&xbcpath=cat42960827%2Ccat17740747%2Ccat000001%2Ccat000000&cmCat=product

Objectively ugly:

https://www.anntaylor.com/lacy-fringe-dress/447581?skuId=23935204&defaultColor=5223&colorExplode=true&catid=cata000012

Objectively ugly:

http://bananarepublic.gap.com/browse/product.do?cid=1070672&pcid=5037&vid=1&pid=797135002

Objectively ugly:

http://www.bodenusa.com/en-us/womens-tops-t-shirts/long-sleeved-tops/j0047-blk/womens-black-bud-hotchpotch-chepstow-jersey-top

But hey, go ahead and wear a sparkly pineapple button down.

Some of these are perfectly fine.

But even if they weren't- you're cherry picking clothing pieces. I guarantee you I could pick several shirts and outfits from the 60, 70s, 80s, 90s, aughts, etc that would be butt ugly. It would be absurd to try to claim that all fashion from those eras is objectively ugly because there are a few pieces I don't like.

Get a grip.

Where do you shop? I'm serious.

Why would I even tell you? You obviously shop from these places since you had all these things pulled up.

How old are you?

I'm the poster who posted all the links, and I'm not the OP. I'm also not the person who asked you where you shopped.

I think it's hilarious that you're being so grumpy, thinking you're yelling at one person, when it is actually at least three people.

I guess you don't understand how message boards work. Normally a new person would identify themselves as NP.

Yelling? My my, someone's feeling hyperbolic today...

New poster here. You do seem really grumpy. Maybe go have a drink, or just go to bed. You'll feel better! Are you a junior Ann Taylor deisgner or something? If so, do better. Clothing really is ugly lately.

Bwahahahaha. The matrons of DCUM giving their expert fashion advice yet again. I think you sound grumpy- and also in denial about the state of fashion today. Perhaps a dawning realization that your pantsuits aren't exactly the current look. Real downer, that.

NP here. I'm in merchandizing, and I'm in my early 30s. Degree from FIT. So I'm not a pantsuit apologizer, but even I will say that the state of retail and U.S. fashion is absolutely grim. Fabrics and construction are terrible.

The problem with design is one of cultural influence, in my opinion. The world used to be smaller; there used to be a few icons of any time--Jackie O, Lee Radziwill, CZ Guest, Babe Paley in the 60s, for example. Now with the internet, there are thousands of icons representing a multitude of cultures and styles. Used to be there were a few networks with a few TV shows, and a limited run of movies at any one time. Now, there are thousands of big and small screen influencers out there. OP actually made a good point with the Medieval/Tudors sleeves bit...don't think for a second that Game of Thrones hasn't influenced current looks. The problem is, that's just one program that's influencing the designers--it really is all "in a blender" as the original post said.

Okay, so it sounds like you prefer a much more retro style. And a much more conservative one, if the fashion icons you checked are any indication. There's a lot more diversity in style today- but for many people that's a great thing. Who cares if GOT has influenced current looks? TV shows have influenced style since the dawn of television- Miami Vice, anyone? You sound honestly quite confused for a fashion major, not to be aware of this. And to honestly believe that the fact that we have MORE choice, more options in what we wear is a bad thing. You want people to have more conformity in style? It honestly sounds like you have quite a boring sense of style- not to be rude but it's true- and simply cannot understand the plethora and ever changing trends that make up today's fashion landscape.

No, sorry, you missed the point. I wasn't saying CZ/Babe Paley should be anyone's icons. I'm saying they were all similar in the 60s, and at that time, they were IT. Now, you can have diverse influencers all at once, which is great, but designers need to pick a lane, and not try to emulate all those influencers at once. You can't be all things to all people. So decide what your niche is, and stick to it (I'm talking to designers here, not consumers). At least be consistent within one collection/season.

That's why J Crew and so many other mass retailers have disappointed their customers in recent years--they have tried to be all things to all customers, and they have failed.

I don't think designers do need to pick a lane. First of all, plenty of designers (most) do have a lane- even if you think they've tried to diversify said lane, they still have one. No one could argue that J. Crew didn't do the "quirky/preppy" look consistently over the past several years, even if that ultimately, for a variety of reasons, proved to be unsuccessful. And actually, companies that specialize in diversity and following trends often do incredibly well, much better than ones that keep a narrow focus. I find it hard to believe that anyone would argue for less diversity within the market rather than more.

NP.

Funny how you're the only poster who thinks designers and retailers have been getting it right these days. If you think duster-length cardigans with the shoulders cut out and pumpkin-print leggings are where it's at, go for it, I guess.

LOL.

Not really. If this were a fashion forum, or hell- even a forum known for having a small modicum of fashion knowledge, it might be notable. But sadly the opposite is true, so if anything, being on the opposite side of the majority here is pretty much confirmation that you're on the right track. As much as that may rile the frumps that make this board so distinctive.

LOL.

What this is, is a fashion forum in a city where many women work and need appropriate clothing. Clearly there is pent up demand for some decent and higher quality work clothing!

I understand that and think that is a COMPLETELY legitimate concern, also the quality issue. But to say "all fashion is ugly" is what I take issue with. There's some truly amazing stuff out today and it does seem to me an issue of many DCUMers being out of the fashion world and/or at a different time in their life and not understanding what's going on (which can happen to everyone). But just because you don't understand it or it doesn't perfectly cater to you doesn't mean you can just write it all off. I think a post about "i can't find work or conservative clothes" would go over much better

Hey Captain Literal, it's been explained A MILLION TIMES what OP meant, and yet you are still arguing? Get a life and move on!!

Not only that, but the good Captain has been asked A MILLION TIMES to post some of this truly amazing stuff out today, and she refuses to do so. So begone with her.

[Anonymous]

Here's another thing that bothers me. Why are stores continually reworking their "fits?" Can you just stick with your damn fit so that I can figure out what fits me and then buy that fit? (too many fits in that sentence)

Also, Lucky Jeans appears to be phasing out the Sofia fit, the only one that fits someone with hips. WTF. I guess I'm not too upset, because they have also gone to this 78% cotton fabric that is TERRIBLE.

Anyone else like the Sofia fit? What other jeans work for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's another thing that bothers me. Why are stores continually reworking their "fits?" Can you just stick with your damn fit so that I can figure out what fits me and then buy that fit? (too many fits in that sentence)

Also, Lucky Jeans appears to be phasing out the Sofia fit, the only one that fits someone with hips. WTF. I guess I'm not too upset, because they have also gone to this 78% cotton fabric that is TERRIBLE.

Anyone else like the Sofia fit? What other jeans work for you?

Ugh, another Sofia fit fan here. I managed to find a pair in my size on Amazon last year. Ebay may be an option too. Not sure what I'll do in the future, but I'm sick of this crap too.

[Anonymous]

From an over-40 stylist/fashion blogger:

https://youlookfab.com/2017/09/05/five-missed-retail-opportunities/

She lists five retail opportunities that continue to be ignored by most of the fashion industry.
1. Tailored Tops
2. Dressy Footwear in Wide Widths
3. Designer Wear in Larger Sizes
4. Stocking the In-between size (She says that there is a notable difference between the largest size in Regular and the smallest size in Plus...this is no man’s land.)
5. Knee-Covering Dresses

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's another thing that bothers me. Why are stores continually reworking their "fits?" Can you just stick with your damn fit so that I can figure out what fits me and then buy that fit? (too many fits in that sentence)

Also, Lucky Jeans appears to be phasing out the Sofia fit, the only one that fits someone with hips. WTF. I guess I'm not too upset, because they have also gone to this 78% cotton fabric that is TERRIBLE.

Anyone else like the Sofia fit? What other jeans work for you?

Ugh, another Sofia fit fan here. I managed to find a pair in my size on Amazon last year. Ebay may be an option too. Not sure what I'll do in the future, but I'm sick of this crap too.

I was looking at them on Amazon. Do you think they are real or knock-offs? Do I care?

I've also been trolling thrift stores and have a few thrifter friends on high alert.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I lament every time a clothing item I own has to be retired because I know I can't replace it with anything decent.
-40 year old.

I have a 13-year-old pair of BR pants. They are awesome--fully lined, well-constructed, and a classic cut. They are also my motivation not to gain weight, because I cannot replace them.

I literally cried after I had my first child and outgrew all of my early 2000's BR. I had suits, pants, beautiful skirts - all 100% wool, lined and great quality. Their quality blows now for the price.

I pulled out some of my pantsuits from the early 2000s. Liz Claiborne, Jones New York, Ann Taylor, 100% wool, fully lined, still look great. Thankfully they were a little big in the waist back then. I also have an AT Loft pant suit, 50% wool, fully lined. Does Loft even make suits anymore?

I also have a silk jacket from Jones that is absolutely beautiful--double-breasted, fully lined, fits beautifully through the shoulders, not a pull or a pucker anywhere. Gorgeous fabric. It had matching pants but, alas, they are nowhere to be found.

I still have a pair of work pants that I live in each winter - thick wool AND lined that I got from GAP of all places. It was 2003, I was a new grad and at $70 it was most of my spending money for the week. They're starting to get tight on me and I so wish I had purchased an extra pair. Who knew clothing would turn to such garbage?